Does smoking pot cause cancer?

[Eli]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
OK, OK.. I Must ask.. Does eating pot give you the same high but with less of the smoking related side effects? I've thought of making some nice low-carb pot brownies

Not quite . . . that's why Marinol - the synthetic THC for cancer/aids/nausea - is generally liked less than smoking it.

It generally takes more than twice the pot to eat (than smoking) to get the approximate effect. It also takes much longer - an hour or so - and should be eaten on an empty stomach (other than fat or oil in the brownies). Too expensive for most people.

Also, eating produces a 'body high' compared with the more 'mental high'. ANd SEVERE munchies.

The reason Marinol sucks is because there are far more chemicals in cannabis than just THC. There are some 60 cannabinoids, and all the different concentrations of them give the different effects from strain to strain. I doubt there are very many people that prefer Marinol to smoking it. I don't think THC by itself gives you the munchies, which is what say, AIDS patients, want.

The high is quite a bit different though. It's more of a body high, not concentrated so much in your head. And yes, you need to eat much more compared to smoking it, and the effects take longer to kick in.. BUT, they last longer.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
OK, OK.. I Must ask.. Does eating pot give you the same high but with less of the smoking related side effects? I've thought of making some nice low-carb pot brownies

Not quite . . . that's why Marinol - the synthetic THC for cancer/aids/nausea - is generally liked less than smoking it.

It generally takes more than twice the pot to eat (than smoking) to get the approximate effect. It also takes much longer - an hour or so - and should be eaten on an empty stomach (other than fat or oil in the brownies). Too expensive for most people.

Also, eating produces a 'body high' compared with the more 'mental high'. ANd SEVERE munchies.

The reason Marinol sucks is because there are far more chemicals in cannabis than just THC. There are some 60 cannabinoids, and all the different concentrations of them give the different effects from strain to strain. I doubt there are very many people that prefer Marinol to smoking it. I don't think THC by itself gives you the munchies, which is what say, AIDS patients, want.

The high is quite a bit different though. It's more of a body high, not concentrated so much in your head. And yes, you need to eat much more compared to smoking it, and the effects take longer to kick in.. BUT, they last longer.

Marinol doesn't suck. It works fine and will stimulate the appetite. If one doesn't work, two WILL.

It is just different and not quite as effective as the real thing.

edit: Marinol is the closest thing I can think of to eating pot.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: apoppin
WRONG!

THC needs fat to digest properly.

That isn't entirely true.

You could just start munching on your kind buds if you wanted to, you would get the same effect.

THC is, however, soluble in fats. It's the easiest way to extract it from the plant matter for cooking.. if you don't want to eat the plant matter.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: apoppin
WRONG!

THC needs fat to digest properly.

That isn't entirely true.

You could just start munching on your kind buds if you wanted to, you would get the same effect.

THC is, however, soluble in fats. It's the easiest way to extract it from the plant matter for cooking.. if you don't want to eat the plant matter.

The keyword was "properly". It is wasteful to just munch buds (compared to cooking them in fats or oil) and if they are raw you will get quite a stomach ache.

edit: alternatively you can use alcohol to extract the THC and unleaded gasoline to get the 'honey oil'. But to DIGEST it (PROPERLY), you need oil or fat.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: apoppin
Marinol doesn't suck. It works fine and will stimulate the appetite. If one doesn't work, two WILL.

It is just different and not quite as effective as the real thing.

edit: Marinol is the closest thing I can think of to eating pot.

Ahh. Still though, there are far more chemicals than just THC.. and they all work together to give a particular strain it's characteristics.. whether it's a nice cerebral high, or couchlock w/ extreme munchies.

Plus, aren't there some pretty weird side effects with marinol?

Hmm.. Are you saying you've tried marinol?

 

[Eli]

Christ! Every other post is a DP today......

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
OK, OK.. I Must ask.. Does eating pot give you the same high but with less of the smoking related side effects? I've thought of making some nice low-carb pot brownies

Not quite . . . that's why Marinol - the synthetic THC for cancer/aids/nausea - is generally liked less than smoking it.

It generally takes more than twice the pot to eat (than smoking) to get the approximate effect. It also takes much longer - an hour or so - and should be eaten on an empty stomach (other than fat or oil in the brownies). Too expensive for most people.

Also, eating produces a 'body high' compared with the more 'mental high'. ANd SEVERE munchies.

The reason Marinol sucks is because there are far more chemicals in cannabis than just THC. There are some 60 cannabinoids, and all the different concentrations of them give the different effects from strain to strain. I doubt there are very many people that prefer Marinol to smoking it. I don't think THC by itself gives you the munchies, which is what say, AIDS patients, want.

The high is quite a bit different though. It's more of a body high, not concentrated so much in your head. And yes, you need to eat much more compared to smoking it, and the effects take longer to kick in.. BUT, they last longer.

A recipe that I found calls for a CUP of marijuana! Isn't that insanely expensive? I haven't smoked in 5 years but a little baggie used to set me back 10 bucks

 

[waylman]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
OK, OK.. I Must ask.. Does eating pot give you the same high but with less of the smoking related side effects? I've thought of making some nice low-carb pot brownies

eating it causes no harm whatsoever. the hight is different though. it takes a long time to kick in but the high lasts alot longer....i actually prefer the high from eating it....give it a go!

How do you prepare it? Mixing say a dime in with a batch of brownies ok or what?

no, you'll need more than a dime for a batch. a dime bag would be good for maybe 2 brownies....

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
OK, OK.. I Must ask.. Does eating pot give you the same high but with less of the smoking related side effects? I've thought of making some nice low-carb pot brownies

eating it causes no harm whatsoever. the hight is different though. it takes a long time to kick in but the high lasts alot longer....i actually prefer the high from eating it....give it a go!

How do you prepare it? Mixing say a dime in with a batch of brownies ok or what?

no, you'll need more than a dime for a batch. a dime bag would be good for maybe 2 brownies....

wow, these are expensive brownies....

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
OK, OK.. I Must ask.. Does eating pot give you the same high but with less of the smoking related side effects? I've thought of making some nice low-carb pot brownies

Not quite . . . that's why Marinol - the synthetic THC for cancer/aids/nausea - is generally liked less than smoking it.

It generally takes more than twice the pot to eat (than smoking) to get the approximate effect. It also takes much longer - an hour or so - and should be eaten on an empty stomach (other than fat or oil in the brownies). Too expensive for most people.

Also, eating produces a 'body high' compared with the more 'mental high'. ANd SEVERE munchies.

The reason Marinol sucks is because there are far more chemicals in cannabis than just THC. There are some 60 cannabinoids, and all the different concentrations of them give the different effects from strain to strain. I doubt there are very many people that prefer Marinol to smoking it. I don't think THC by itself gives you the munchies, which is what say, AIDS patients, want.

The high is quite a bit different though. It's more of a body high, not concentrated so much in your head. And yes, you need to eat much more compared to smoking it, and the effects take longer to kick in.. BUT, they last longer.

A recipe that I found calls for a CUP of marijuana! Isn't that insanely expensive? I haven't smoked in 5 years but a little baggie used to set me back 10 bucks

A cup would be for a party batch. . . figure 2 grams per person.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
OK, OK.. I Must ask.. Does eating pot give you the same high but with less of the smoking related side effects? I've thought of making some nice low-carb pot brownies

Not quite . . . that's why Marinol - the synthetic THC for cancer/aids/nausea - is generally liked less than smoking it.

It generally takes more than twice the pot to eat (than smoking) to get the approximate effect. It also takes much longer - an hour or so - and should be eaten on an empty stomach (other than fat or oil in the brownies). Too expensive for most people.

Also, eating produces a 'body high' compared with the more 'mental high'. ANd SEVERE munchies.

The reason Marinol sucks is because there are far more chemicals in cannabis than just THC. There are some 60 cannabinoids, and all the different concentrations of them give the different effects from strain to strain. I doubt there are very many people that prefer Marinol to smoking it. I don't think THC by itself gives you the munchies, which is what say, AIDS patients, want.

The high is quite a bit different though. It's more of a body high, not concentrated so much in your head. And yes, you need to eat much more compared to smoking it, and the effects take longer to kick in.. BUT, they last longer.

A recipe that I found calls for a CUP of marijuana! Isn't that insanely expensive? I haven't smoked in 5 years but a little baggie used to set me back 10 bucks

It's going to depend on how big your box of brownies is. If it's one of those giant boxes, then a cup sounds reasonable.

A cup all ground up would indeed be quite a bit, probably about a quarter oz.. But they'd be some good brownies.

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
OK, OK.. I Must ask.. Does eating pot give you the same high but with less of the smoking related side effects? I've thought of making some nice low-carb pot brownies

Not quite . . . that's why Marinol - the synthetic THC for cancer/aids/nausea - is generally liked less than smoking it.

It generally takes more than twice the pot to eat (than smoking) to get the approximate effect. It also takes much longer - an hour or so - and should be eaten on an empty stomach (other than fat or oil in the brownies). Too expensive for most people.

Also, eating produces a 'body high' compared with the more 'mental high'. ANd SEVERE munchies.

The reason Marinol sucks is because there are far more chemicals in cannabis than just THC. There are some 60 cannabinoids, and all the different concentrations of them give the different effects from strain to strain. I doubt there are very many people that prefer Marinol to smoking it. I don't think THC by itself gives you the munchies, which is what say, AIDS patients, want.

The high is quite a bit different though. It's more of a body high, not concentrated so much in your head. And yes, you need to eat much more compared to smoking it, and the effects take longer to kick in.. BUT, they last longer.

A recipe that I found calls for a CUP of marijuana! Isn't that insanely expensive? I haven't smoked in 5 years but a little baggie used to set me back 10 bucks

A cup would be for a party batch. . . figure 2 grams per person.

Per person or per brownie? How many grams is your typical dime back/

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: apoppin
Marinol doesn't suck. It works fine and will stimulate the appetite. If one doesn't work, two WILL.

It is just different and not quite as effective as the real thing.

edit: Marinol is the closest thing I can think of to eating pot.

Ahh. Still though, there are far more chemicals than just THC.. and they all work together to give a particular strain it's characteristics.. whether it's a nice cerebral high, or couchlock w/ extreme munchies.

Plus, aren't there some pretty weird side effects with marinol?

no more so than eating pot

Hmm.. Are you saying you've tried marinol?

I don't have a prescription and would never admit to ANY illegal drug use.

I have studied Marinol (my only "admission")

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
OK, OK.. I Must ask.. Does eating pot give you the same high but with less of the smoking related side effects? I've thought of making some nice low-carb pot brownies

Not quite . . . that's why Marinol - the synthetic THC for cancer/aids/nausea - is generally liked less than smoking it.

It generally takes more than twice the pot to eat (than smoking) to get the approximate effect. It also takes much longer - an hour or so - and should be eaten on an empty stomach (other than fat or oil in the brownies). Too expensive for most people.

Also, eating produces a 'body high' compared with the more 'mental high'. ANd SEVERE munchies.

The reason Marinol sucks is because there are far more chemicals in cannabis than just THC. There are some 60 cannabinoids, and all the different concentrations of them give the different effects from strain to strain. I doubt there are very many people that prefer Marinol to smoking it. I don't think THC by itself gives you the munchies, which is what say, AIDS patients, want.

The high is quite a bit different though. It's more of a body high, not concentrated so much in your head. And yes, you need to eat much more compared to smoking it, and the effects take longer to kick in.. BUT, they last longer.

A recipe that I found calls for a CUP of marijuana! Isn't that insanely expensive? I haven't smoked in 5 years but a little baggie used to set me back 10 bucks

A cup would be for a party batch. . . figure 2 grams per person.

Per person or per brownie? How many grams is your typical dime back/

A 10 would be about 0.875g.

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
OK, OK.. I Must ask.. Does eating pot give you the same high but with less of the smoking related side effects? I've thought of making some nice low-carb pot brownies

Not quite . . . that's why Marinol - the synthetic THC for cancer/aids/nausea - is generally liked less than smoking it.

It generally takes more than twice the pot to eat (than smoking) to get the approximate effect. It also takes much longer - an hour or so - and should be eaten on an empty stomach (other than fat or oil in the brownies). Too expensive for most people.

Also, eating produces a 'body high' compared with the more 'mental high'. ANd SEVERE munchies.

The reason Marinol sucks is because there are far more chemicals in cannabis than just THC. There are some 60 cannabinoids, and all the different concentrations of them give the different effects from strain to strain. I doubt there are very many people that prefer Marinol to smoking it. I don't think THC by itself gives you the munchies, which is what say, AIDS patients, want.

The high is quite a bit different though. It's more of a body high, not concentrated so much in your head. And yes, you need to eat much more compared to smoking it, and the effects take longer to kick in.. BUT, they last longer.

A recipe that I found calls for a CUP of marijuana! Isn't that insanely expensive? I haven't smoked in 5 years but a little baggie used to set me back 10 bucks

A cup would be for a party batch. . . figure 2 grams per person.

Per person or per brownie? How many grams is your typical dime back/

A 10 would be about 0.875g.

Ahhh, got it... So $20 brownies.. Sheesh.. Well, maybe for my gf's birthday

 

[apoppin]

Speaking of Marinol . . . WTH is it reclassified as a Class III drug while Pot remains (a "dangerous)" Class 1?Anything to do with Marinol being mfg by a uge drug company?

hypocricy.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: apoppin
Speaking of Marinol . . . WTH it's reclassified as a Class III drug while Pot remains Class 1?Anything to do with Marinol being mfg by a uge drug company?

hypocricy.

Is Class 1 worse than Class III?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: apoppin
Speaking of Marinol . . . WTH it's reclassified as a Class III drug while Pot remains Class 1?Anything to do with Marinol being mfg by a uge drug company?

hypocricy.

Is Class 1 worse than Class III?

Yes. Class III can be got an a 5-month refil; you don't need to go back to the Dr each time and ordered over the phone to the pharmacy. Class I is like heroin - NO medical use.

hypocrits

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: apoppin
Speaking of Marinol . . . WTH it's reclassified as a Class III drug while Pot remains Class 1?Anything to do with Marinol being mfg by a uge drug company?

hypocricy.

Is Class 1 worse than Class III?

Yes. Class III can be got an a 5-month refil; you don't need to go back to the Dr each time and ordered over the phone to the pharmacy. Class I is like heroin - NO medical use.

hypocrits

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: apoppin
Speaking of Marinol . . . WTH is it reclassified as a Class III drug while Pot remains (a "dangerous)" Class 1?Anything to do with Marinol being mfg by a uge drug company?

hypocricy.

It's probably due to the ability to measure dosage. With a ziplock baggie of pot, you can't accurately measure the amount of THC in it. With it in sythesized, and in pill form, you can.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: apoppin
Speaking of Marinol . . . WTH is it reclassified as a Class III drug while Pot remains (a "dangerous)" Class 1?Anything to do with Marinol being mfg by a uge drug company?

hypocricy.

It's probably due to the ability to measure dosage. With a ziplock baggie of pot, you can't accurately measure the amount of THC in it. With it in sythesized, and in pill form, you can.

It's still silly.. Not like you could ever come close to endangering yourself with the baggy, yet I bet you could OD on the pills.

 

[PHiuR]

smoking enhances your worldly views.

 

[vi edit]

It's still silly.. Not like you could ever come close to endangering yourself with the baggy, yet I bet you could OD on the pills.

That's not the point. The point is that you can't accurately measure how much how much you are consuming - whether it's lethal or not. The drug industry is all about measurements. That's one of the reasons why the FDA doesn't oversee the supplement market. There aren't really any major controls in place to measure how much of the active ingredient is going into a pill.

The FDA monitored drugs are VERY controlled on how much is exactly in a pill, consistency from pill to pill, and labeling what is in that pill.

There are a couple people here that could explain it a lot better than I.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

It's still silly.. Not like you could ever come close to endangering yourself with the baggy, yet I bet you could OD on the pills.

That's not the point. The point is that you can't accurately measure how much how much you are consuming - whether it's lethal or not. The drug industry is all about measurements. That's one of the reasons why the FDA doesn't oversee the supplement market. There aren't really any major controls in place to measure how much of the active ingredient is going into a pill.

The FDA monitored drugs are VERY controlled on how much is exactly in a pill, consistency from pill to pill, and labeling what is in that pill.

There are a couple people here that could explain it a lot better than I.

Ahh.. Yea, I see.

 

[Hankysmoo]

its all about toking it up from a vapo