Does refrigerating batteries make them last longer?

MichaelD

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I just replaced the batteries in my mouse. As I was taking the two AA's out of the fridge, I said to myself:

"Self, you've always kept batteries in the fridge and they last a long time. I wonder if keeping them in a drawer somewhere would affect their life?"

Is it just myth? Have I been wasting valuable fridge space all these years? I could fit another couple of six packs if I take that car battery off the bottom shelf...

Is the fridge thing a myth?
 

Scarpozzi

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Might help with film, but generally speaking....keeping batteries at a lower temp decreases the activity of the cell, thus making the battery weaker. The cell will get stronger when it heats back up, but I would think that it would actually lose power.

Since dry-cell batteries are made with a paste....I would think that decreasing the temp might help keep them from leaking....as long as you don't freeze them.
 

moshquerade

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how about cologne or coffee? seems both of those are placed in the refridgerator or freezer by people to help them last longer.
 

dullard

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My parents always kept them in the fridge. So when I moved out, I faced that same question. After taking a few chemistry courses (I'm a chemical engineer), I realized the stupidity of the idea. Yes, you may save yourself a penny's worth of battery life. But at the same time you lose valuable refrigerator space AND you have to pay to cool the battery down. In the end, putting them in the fridge is a losing proposition.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
how about cologne or coffee? seems both of those are placed in the refridgerator or freezer by people to help them last longer.

they are? :confused:
 

MichaelD

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Originally posted by: dullard
My parents always kept them in the fridge. So when I moved out, I faced that same question. After taking a few chemistry courses (I'm a chemical engineer), I realized the stupidity of the idea. Yes, you may save yourself a penny's worth of battery life. But at the same time you lose valuable refrigerator space AND you have to pay to cool the battery down. In the end, putting them in the fridge is a losing proposition.


Well, since you put it that way...I may have to rethink the past 20 years. :eek:

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Since you're a chemical engineer, make soda so that an open can doesn't go flat after just a few hours. I don't throw away 1/2 a can of soda, I put it in the fridge (near the batteries, ironically :D), but by the next day, it's flat.

Fix it, please. ;)
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
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Since you're a chemical engineer, make soda so that an open can doesn't go flat after just a few hours. I don't throw away 1/2 a can of soda, I put it in the fridge (near the batteries, ironically :D), but by the next day, it's flat.

Fix it, please. ;)
Well, I really can't change the fundamental laws of nature (vapor pressure of the dissolved CO2). So, what you need is a change in the formula for the soda. That requires a damn good chemist and/or chef. All chemical engineers do is to mass produce what the chemist/chef designed.

An engineer can possibly design a device to cap the soda can, but even those are fairly ineffective even if they functioned perfectly. Most of the flatness occurs in the first 15 minutes of being open, the time when you wouldn't have the cap on it.

Instead, why don't you be a man and drink the small, measly, insignificant 1.5 cups of soda. I've finished a can every time I've opened it since I was ~10 years old. I was so pround back then when I could finally finish a whole can.
 

Wapp

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
how about cologne or coffee? seems both of those are placed in the refridgerator or freezer by people to help them last longer.

According to Alton Brown, you do not want to store coffee in the fridge. Moisture ruins the coffee.
 

loic2003

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I heard the opposite. Just spoke to a fmily who went to lapland (~ -10 to -15C) and they said the batteries of their cameras lasted five or six shots. YMMV.


Edit: actually be a geek and do an experiment!
 

MichaelD

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Well, I DO finish plenty of cans of Coke. But when the Bourbon runs out, there's no longer a need for the Coke. :) So in the fridge it goes. And there you have it.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Wapp
Originally posted by: moshquerade
how about cologne or coffee? seems both of those are placed in the refridgerator or freezer by people to help them last longer.

According to Alton Brown, you do not want to store coffee in the fridge. Moisture ruins the coffee.

Modern defrosting refrigerators dry things out.

And in my nearly 40 years of experience, resealed coffee stays fresh MUCH longer in the fridge.
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: Wapp
Originally posted by: moshquerade
how about cologne or coffee? seems both of those are placed in the refridgerator or freezer by people to help them last longer.

According to Alton Brown, you do not want to store coffee in the fridge. Moisture ruins the coffee.

Not if it's kept in an airtight container in the freezer. Moisture in the air is what gets to the coffee.

Also not grinding until use is essential for maximum flavor. More surface area = more ability to absorb anything. O2 , H20 , whatever.
 

Wapp

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Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: Wapp
Originally posted by: moshquerade
how about cologne or coffee? seems both of those are placed in the refridgerator or freezer by people to help them last longer.

According to Alton Brown, you do not want to store coffee in the fridge. Moisture ruins the coffee.

Not if it's kept in an airtight container in the freezer. Moisture in the air is what gets to the coffee.

Also not grinding until use is essential for maximum flavor. More surface area = more ability to absorb anything. O2 , H20 , whatever.

Word.
 

nakedfrog

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I seem to recall reading an experiment where they determined that there was a very slight benefit to refrigerating them. I don't feel like trying to find it, though.
 

Sphexi

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Originally posted by: loic2003
I heard the opposite. Just spoke to a fmily who went to lapland (~ -10 to -15C) and they said the batteries of their cameras lasted five or six shots. YMMV.


Edit: actually be a geek and do an experiment!

There's a difference between keeping batteries in a cold environment between uses/charges, and using them in a very cold environment.

Putting NiMH batteries in the freezer will allow them to hold their charge a LOT longer than normal (normally they lose it after two weeks or so), but using them in subzero temps would probably drain them a lot faster than normal. Obviously to use them, let them warm up to room temp over an hour or so, and they'd be fine.
 

herbiehancock

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Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: loic2003
I heard the opposite. Just spoke to a fmily who went to lapland (~ -10 to -15C) and they said the batteries of their cameras lasted five or six shots. YMMV.


Edit: actually be a geek and do an experiment!

There's a difference between keeping batteries in a cold environment between uses/charges, and using them in a very cold environment.

Putting NiMH batteries in the freezer will allow them to hold their charge a LOT longer than normal (normally they lose it after two weeks or so), but using them in subzero temps would probably drain them a lot faster than normal. Obviously to use them, let them warm up to room temp over an hour or so, and they'd be fine.


So, you'd advocate having to wait an hour or longer jsut to prolong a charge for a few minutes? Seems to be a high price to pay. I find it interesting that most "experts" in the area of batteries usually state there is little to no advantage to storing in refrigerators, esp. since the battery has to warm up to have its full poetntial for use.

I'd think most people, esp. using rechargeables, want the power now, not an hour or longer form now. It'd seem much easier to me to have two sets of rechargeable batteries, one set in use and one set in a trickle charger......then they'd always be available for immediate use.

As for non-rechargeables, Eveready states on their website that storing in the refrigerator is not recommended and indeed may do slight harm to the battery.

Should I store batteries in the refrigerator?
Storing batteries in refrigerators or freezers is not required or recommended for batteries produced today. In fact, cold temperature storage can harm batteries. To maximize performance and shelf life, store batteries at normal room temperatures with moderate humidity levels.

Quote taken from Energizer's FAQ section.



I found this interesting:

This next is from Ray-O-Vac, Michael Jordan's boss nowadays:

Storage

Batteries depend on internal chemical reactions to produce power. Chemical reactions are accelerated by high temperatures and retarded by low temperatures. Therefore, to minimize power loss during storage, batteries should ideally be stored at a maximum temperature of 77 F (25 C). Refrigerated storage is neither necessary nor recommended.

What gives? Does Ray-O-Vac not want us to refrigerate batteries because they figure warm batteries will run out sooner and we'll buy more? Not necessarily. A common misconception is that batteries are generating electricity even when they're not being used. That's not the case. Until somebody throws the switch, a battery only has electrical potential. If no juice is flowing, no chemicals are reacting, and there's no point in refrigerating the battery. Quite the contrary--since refrigeration slows a reaction, the electricity won't be there when you want it. That's why car batteries don't work well in subzero temperatures.


Taken from Straight Dope website.


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