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Does progressive scan and component cables make a big noticable difference over no prog scan + RCA?

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Hey, I just got my new HDTV, and I'm wondering if I should get a new dvd player for progressive scan? I'm also wondering should I spend 20 bucks for component cables? I can connect via component w/ my current DVD player, but will I notice a difference for 20 bucks?
 
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Going from composite to component (or even s-video) will make a significant difference. Well worth the $20 IMHO.
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I concur... the component makes a huge difference... no experience with the progressive scan though
 
If you've bought an HDTV, why would you not take advantage of it and use p-scan? Especially since you're obviously not short of money....
 
A progressive scan dvd player may or may not make a difference. Component video cables definitely will.
 
from what i understand, you can't do progressive scan without component cables. at any rate, component cables made a big difference, even on our non-HDTV. progressive scan would be even better!
 
Originally posted by: NogginBoink
It will be a night-and-day-why-didn't-I-do-this-years-ago difference.
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I could swear I saw the guys on AVSFORUM.com say the exact opposite. Something about DVD being normal interlaced TV resolution and that the progressive line-doublers in their TV sets did a better job.

However, my own testing of the $29 progressive scan DVD player I got from Radio Shack on Black Friday shows otherwise 🙂

I watched Antwone Fisher and on the opening scene I noticed bad pixelation/jaggies/aliasing on the horizon (Intro to the movie shows an arching hill contrasting with the sky). I thought "WTH? This looks like crap" so i double-checked my setting and found that the DVD player requires you to save the setting on that screen with some strange key (Though other settings in similar menus did not require this). I re-watched the scene and the problem dissapeared. 100% gone.

I was watching an anamorphic DVD on a wide-screen set (Increases resolution when paired with anamorphic discs) with the DVD player set to "wide" and the TV set to "Wide" (No zooming).

BTW, I got $9.XX component cables at Wal-Mart but I'm still using the component cables from my XBOX HD Pack.
 
Alright thanks guys, I guess I'll hold off on the progressive scan for the moment but get some component cables tommorow.

If you've bought an HDTV, why would you not take advantage of it and use p-scan? Especially since you're obviously not short of money....
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It's actually not an expensive set, it's a 26" (I know wierd size screen) Samsung widescreen HDTV. I got it off sears for 600 bucks.
 
Originally posted by: 50
Alright thanks guys, I guess I'll hold off on the progressive scan for the moment but get some component cables tommorow.

If you've bought an HDTV, why would you not take advantage of it and use p-scan? Especially since you're obviously not short of money....
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It's actually not an expensive set, it's a 26" (I know wierd size screen) Samsung widescreen HDTV. I got it off sears for 600 bucks.
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Wait. You have a non progressive DVD with component out?
 
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: 50
Alright thanks guys, I guess I'll hold off on the progressive scan for the moment but get some component cables tommorow.

If you've bought an HDTV, why would you not take advantage of it and use p-scan? Especially since you're obviously not short of money....
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It's actually not an expensive set, it's a 26" (I know wierd size screen) Samsung widescreen HDTV. I got it off sears for 600 bucks.
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Wait. You have a non progressive DVD with component out?
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That's actually pretty common. Just like those stupid interlaced TVs with an "XPORT" for XBOXes and strange XPORT devices. Basically the same thing as component with a combined connector except with audio included and no break-out to connect to your receiver 🙁

It improves quality over S-Video by shielding and further seperating the signals for each color.
 
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: 50 Alright thanks guys, I guess I'll hold off on the progressive scan for the moment but get some component cables tommorow.
If you've bought an HDTV, why would you not take advantage of it and use p-scan? Especially since you're obviously not short of money....
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It's actually not an expensive set, it's a 26" (I know wierd size screen) Samsung widescreen HDTV. I got it off sears for 600 bucks.
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Wait. You have a non progressive DVD with component out?
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My Pioneer DV-525 is non progressive scan with component out. Of course it's about 4 years old and cost me $300 at the time. Basically every player on the market now is progressive scan, although some PS chips are better than others.
 
You can find so many cheap progressive scan DVD players, so why not buy one? Buying a DVD player isn't even a serious investment anymore.
 
Originally posted by: benchiu
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: 50 Alright thanks guys, I guess I'll hold off on the progressive scan for the moment but get some component cables tommorow.
If you've bought an HDTV, why would you not take advantage of it and use p-scan? Especially since you're obviously not short of money....
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It's actually not an expensive set, it's a 26" (I know wierd size screen) Samsung widescreen HDTV. I got it off sears for 600 bucks.
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Wait. You have a non progressive DVD with component out?
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My Pioneer DV-525 is non progressive scan with component out. Of course it's about 4 years old and cost me $300 at the time. Basically every player on the market now is progressive scan, although some PS chips are better than others.
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You'd be surprised. 90% or more of the players sold are the cheapie less-than-forty-dollar ones, almost none of which support progressive scan. It's been said that you should expect to pay a $20 premium for it. That why Target and Radio Shack's $34.99 and $29.99 progressive scan DVD players were such a big deal. My friend's mom just bought a $130 Sony with no progressive scan ouput! I was REALLY ripping into him for letting her do that. He had no idea it was an issue.
 
Hell, my parents bought a CDN$70 one with progressive-scan. And my dad was even smart enough to know that it's a good thing to have. He's getting more tech-savvy each day. 🙂

- M4H
 
Component connections look much better than composite, in my experience. As for the progressive scan, think of the way your computer monitor looks (progressive) vs. the way your TV looks (interlaced). Progressive generally looks much better.
 

I can't speak for HDTV but on my non-hdtv 36" tau their is not much of a difference between s-video and component and barely any difference between though two and composite.

It's either my eyes suck, the TV sucks or good comb filters are making up for the lack of separation in the composite cables.
 
Well I finally got component cables (about a month later)...And it really is not that much of a difference. I spent about 25 bucks at BB for the no name brand ones. I'm going to try my friend's prog scan dvd player and see if any difference. That was a waste of 25 bucks...
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Hell, my parents bought a CDN$70 one with progressive-scan. And my dad was even smart enough to know that it's a good thing to have. He's getting more tech-savvy each day. 🙂

- M4H
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Is your mother the same way? Your mother's parents? 😀
 
definetly get progressive, no point not getting it. even cheap apex/aspire players have progressive output these dyas. i got mine for 25 bux😛 i'm sure u can find a sale for 30 after rebate or not. as for cables.. there are special progressive cables? aren't they just the normal ones?

I could swear I saw the guys on AVSFORUM.com say the exact opposite. Something about DVD being normal interlaced TV resolution and that the progressive line-doublers in their TV sets did a better job.
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dvd is not interlaced, unless its from tv or really sh*tty. its progressive.

 
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