Does pass/fail look bad on your transcript?

mercanucaribe

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I'm taking 5 classes right now, none of which I need to graduate. I'm thinking about changing one to pass/fail, probably Remote Sensing. Maybe also Landscape Restoration. That will make the total of my pass/fail classes 4 or 5, including a field geology class that is only offered as p/f. Is that bad?

Edit: The other 2 pass/fails are from freshman year, when I had no idea wtf I was doing.
 

jlee

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I wouldn't think it would be 'bad' unless you were to fail it..
 

UncleWai

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As long as it's not in your major. I did a couple pass/fail on some math classes
 

Malak

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I wouldn't know for two reasons. I never did a pass/fail, and nobody has ever looked at my transcript.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: UncleWai
As long as it's not in your major. I did a couple pass/fail on some math classes

Do most colleges even let you do P/F in your major?
 

Syringer

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Grad schools won't like it, and generally "count" it as a B-/C anyway..

Employers will care more about GPA, so in that case it could be advantageous.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Grad schools won't like it, and generally "count" it as a B-/C anyway..

Employers will care more about GPA, so in that case it could be advantageous.

Really? Everyone keeps saying employers don't look at GPA or your transcript. :confused:
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Syringer
Grad schools won't like it, and generally "count" it as a B-/C anyway..

Employers will care more about GPA, so in that case it could be advantageous.

Really? Everyone keeps saying employers don't look at GPA or your transcript. :confused:

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing.
 

RaistlinZ

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Are they hard classes? If you think you can get an A in them then I wouldn't do Pass/Fail. On the other hand, if you're just doing the minimum to get credit for the units then Pass/Fail is probably a good idea.
 

hdeck

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they are going on your transcript as electives. pretty much they won't mind.
 

vrbaba

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make it a total of 4. and landscape restoration or any totally outside of major class is OK for pass/fail

make sure math/engr/whtever ur major is doesnt have more 1/2 (rather ANY) pass fails
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Syringer
Grad schools won't like it, and generally "count" it as a B-/C anyway..

Employers will care more about GPA, so in that case it could be advantageous.

Really? Everyone keeps saying employers don't look at GPA or your transcript. :confused:

Some will specifically ask you for it and not accept a resume if you don't include a GPA or maybe a transcript as well, while some won't care at all..

Big employers will even use filter programs to just eliminate resumes that don't meet a minimum GPA. A few jobs that I've been looking at only accept those with specific GPAs..generally 3.0, 3.2 or so.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Syringer
Grad schools won't like it, and generally "count" it as a B-/C anyway..

Employers will care more about GPA, so in that case it could be advantageous.

Really? Everyone keeps saying employers don't look at GPA or your transcript. :confused:

Some will specifically ask you for it and not accept a resume if you don't include a GPA or maybe a transcript as well, while some won't care at all..

Big employers will even use filter programs to just eliminate resumes that don't meet a minimum GPA. A few jobs that I've been looking at only accept those with specific GPAs..generally 3.0, 3.2 or so.

I've always planned on using my transcript and GPA anyway, which is why I'm asking about this.
 

Syringer

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If you want to maximize your GPA I'd say take it for P/F. That way the classes you take it in won't hurt your GPA, and when it comes to finals/midterms time, you'll be able to focus more on the classes that matter since it shouldn't be too difficult to just pass a class..
 
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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Syringer
Grad schools won't like it, and generally "count" it as a B-/C anyway..

Employers will care more about GPA, so in that case it could be advantageous.

Really? Everyone keeps saying employers don't look at GPA or your transcript. :confused:

Some will specifically ask you for it and not accept a resume if you don't include a GPA or maybe a transcript as well, while some won't care at all..

Big employers will even use filter programs to just eliminate resumes that don't meet a minimum GPA. A few jobs that I've been looking at only accept those with specific GPAs..generally 3.0, 3.2 or so.

I've always planned on using my transcript and GPA anyway, which is why I'm asking about this.

smaller companies don't factor GPA as much as other things... larger companies use GPA as a filter... I believe my father, who works at Applied Materials, mentioned that they pretty much exclusively hire engineers from Ivies and other large universities with a GPA filter that seemed ridiculously high... I'm sure other very large firms will do the same. On the other hand, it is engineering... so...
 

yhelothar

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How do you pass/fail classes? I've never heard about it for my college(community college now).
 

vegetation

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
How do you pass/fail classes? I've never heard about it for my college(community college now).

Sometimes called Credit / No credit. Some community colleges may not offer it, especially if it's more liberal arts oriented as 4 year colleges will not accept non-letter grade course transfers to fulfill your degree requirements.
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: vegetation
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
How do you pass/fail classes? I've never heard about it for my college(community college now).

Sometimes called Credit / No credit. Some community colleges may not offer it, especially if it's more liberal arts oriented as 4 year colleges will not accept non-letter grade course transfers to fulfill your degree requirements.

Oh yeah I know about credit/no credit classes.
So you can convert your letter grade class to credit/no credit?
I would like to do that. I made a mistake in my wind ensemble class, and it dropped my A to a C. It would be great if I could make it into a credit/nocredit class.
 

vegetation

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Oh yeah I know about credit/no credit classes.
So you can convert your letter grade class to credit/no credit?


Retroactively? Definitely not. You got to register specifically for either letter grade (usually the default) or credit/no-credit at the beginning of the semester.
 

Reel

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Syringer
Grad schools won't like it, and generally "count" it as a B-/C anyway..

Employers will care more about GPA, so in that case it could be advantageous.

Really? Everyone keeps saying employers don't look at GPA or your transcript. :confused:

Some will specifically ask you for it and not accept a resume if you don't include a GPA or maybe a transcript as well, while some won't care at all..

Big employers will even use filter programs to just eliminate resumes that don't meet a minimum GPA. A few jobs that I've been looking at only accept those with specific GPAs..generally 3.0, 3.2 or so.

I've always planned on using my transcript and GPA anyway, which is why I'm asking about this.

smaller companies don't factor GPA as much as other things... larger companies use GPA as a filter... I believe my father, who works at Applied Materials, mentioned that they pretty much exclusively hire engineers from Ivies and other large universities with a GPA filter that seemed ridiculously high... I'm sure other very large firms will do the same. On the other hand, it is engineering... so...

My company has a minimum GPA. However, as with all other things, they make exceptions for exceptional people based on experience or extenuating circumstances. I don't know how likely it is that you will ever get your foot in the door to plead your case or brag about your other achievements though.