Does Listening to Rap Put Teens at Risk?

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Does Listening to Rap Put Teens at Risk?

By Sid Kirchheimer, WebMD Medical News

(March 3) -- Teens who spend more time watching the sex and violence depicted in the "reel" life of "gangsta" rap music videos are more likely to practice these behaviors in real life, suggests one of the first studies to specifically explore how rap videos influence emotional and physical health.

After studying 522 black girls between the ages of 14 and 18 from non-urban, lower socioeconomic neighborhoods, researchers found that compared to those who never or rarely watched these videos, the girls who viewed these gangsta videos for at least 14 hours per week were far more likely to practice numerous destructive behaviors. Over the course of the one-year study, they were:

Three times more likely to hit a teacher
Over 2.5 times more likely to get arrested
Twice as likely to have multiple sexual partners
1.5 times more likely to get a sexually transmitted disease, use drugs, or drink alcohol.

"What is particularly alarming about our findings is that we didn't find an association with just violence or one or two risky behaviors," says researcher Ralph J. DiClemente, PhD, of Emory University's Rollins School of Public Health. "We found an association with a string of these behaviors."

His study, published in the March issue of the American Journal of Public Health, only involved black girls living in Birmingham, Ala. -- all of whom were already sexually active. While the researchers surveyed viewing habits for various types of rap videos, gangsta rap was by far the most popular among the girls practicing these destructive behaviors.

"We wanted to focus on young, African American women, a population that is very vulnerable," DiClemente tells WebMD. "In these videos, men hold the power and women don't and as a result, are subservient. I'm not sure that the girls in our study were lashing out because of this, but more likely role-modeling the behaviors they see. The women in these videos are doing OK, they're hanging around with a man who is powerful, affluent, going to nice clubs and wearing nice clothes. For these girls, they may not be a bad thing."

His team is currently expanding its research to investigate how these and other rap videos may influence behaviors across other racial, gender and socioeconomic lines. Although gangsta rap videos depict tough inner-city "street" life, their largest viewing audience is white suburban youth, who have better access to cable television channels such as MTV and BET (Black Entertainment Television).

Of course, this isn't the first time that rebellious music has been blamed for society's ills. From Elvis to Columbine, the songs of music-obsessed youth have often been blamed for anti-social behavior. But rap -- and in particular, the especially violent and sexually-explicit gangsta variety -- has raised special concern.

"Most children between ages 2 and 18 spend upwards of seven hours a day ingesting some sort of media," says Susan Buttross, MD, FAAP, chief of child development and behavioral pediatrics at the University of Mississippi Medical Center and spokeswoman for the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP). "We know that with any type of repeated media exposure, a desensitization can occur that makes these behaviors seem normal. So this finding doesn't surprise me at all."

Buttross, who was not involved in DiClemente's study, has testified before the U.S. Senate on the social impact of violent musical lyrics and is a member of the AAP's committee on public education, which has written several policies warning about the effects the media has on children's' behavior. Her committee is currently updating its 2001 policy statement that found 75% of music videos involved sexual imagery, and more than half involved violence -- usually against women. In 1996, the AAP issued another policy statement that was critical of rap music.

But others feel that rap is getting a bad rap. "Yes, there are rap videos that are particularly violent or sexual, but let's look at what is more important in whether or not these kids act out of behaviors -- their family structure and the type of parenting they get," says Cheryl Keyes, PhD, associate professor of ethnomusicology at UCLA and author of Rap Music and Street Consciousness. "Parents need to get more involved in what their children are watching."

No argument from DiClemente or Buttross.

"You cannot stick your head in the sand and expect your child will only look at good stuff," says Buttross. "Parents need to know what their children are being exposed to. Certainly, rap is not the only music that portrays negative stereotypes or can negatively impact behaviors, and not all rap music should be implicated. But there have been nearly 1,000 studies that have looked at the effects that the media has on children's behavior. And nearly all of them find there is a strong effect."

SOURCES: American Journal of Public Health, March 2003. Ralph J. DiClemente, PhD, professor of public health, Rollins School of Public Health; associate director, Center for AIDS Research, Emory University, Atlanta, Ga. Susan Buttross, MD, chief of child development and behavioral pediatrics, University of Mississippi Medical Center, Jackson, Miss.; member, American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on Public Education. Cheryl Keyes, PhD, associate professor of ethnomusicology, University of California at Los Angeles; author, Rap Music and Street Consciousness. American Academy of Pediatrics policy statement: Sexuality, Contraception, and the Media, issued January. 2001. American Academy of Pediatrics policy statement: Impact of Music Lyrics and Music Videos on Children and Youth, December 1996.
 

minendo

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I see no correlation between listening to rap and the destructive behavior. The article discusses watching videos, but once again I feel as though the problem does not lie in the watching of the video but more on the upbringing of the children by their parents.
 

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I believe that all commercialized commodity music such as that music that is put on MTV is putting teens at risk as well as destroying America's culture... sad
 

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I?d say it?s more the parents fault for letting their kids get brainwashed by a steady diet of crap TV. If you don?t learn that it?s not good to be a Gangsta how do you know any better. ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
You are what you eat:) (or consume)

That's why we're such pussies, huh? ;)

:D

Oh and amused I meant you study the classics, read forbes etc your more likley than not to become responsible and succesful than some ADD MTV punk ass eminin lover.

 

FuZoR

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nope, its the teens environment.

Parents, Surroundings and Friends/Peers all influence who they are.
 

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So by that article, a white youth in Kansas is more likely to beat his wife, shoot some varmints, and lose his wife (sister), dog, house etc by listening to country music??

or some dude in Seattle is more likely to not bathe because he listens to alternative??

or how about that chick in New York who's more likely to bite someone in the neck because she listens to Industrial/Goth

Or her friend who's going to OD on "e" because she listens to Dance/Techno/Rave???

Come on... music has been a scapegoat for whatever problems affect youth....it;'s just lazy parents who need to use a smack on the arse every once in awhile...

you know, speaking of "gangsta's", I'd like to see Al Capone bust a move on the floor, or break off some phat rhymes... :p I bet he'd put "Fiddy-Cent" inhis place.... gangsta's... please...
 
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Originally posted by: blakeatwork
So by that article, a white youth in Kansas is more likely to beat his wife, shoot some varmints, and lose his wife (sister), dog, house etc by listening to country music??

or some dude in Seattle is more likely to not bathe because he listens to alternative??

or how about that chick in New York who's more likely to bite someone in the neck because she listens to Industrial/Goth

Or her friend who's going to OD on "e" because she listens to Dance/Techno/Rave???

Come on... music has been a scapegoat for whatever problems affect youth....it;'s just lazy parents who need to use a smack on the arse every once in awhile...

you know, speaking of "gangsta's", I'd like to see Al Capone bust a move on the floor, or break off some phat rhymes... :p I bet he'd put "Fiddy-Cent" inhis place.... gangsta's... please...

Al Capone wouldn't bother to deal with these lowlifes on a personal basis ... he'd have a hit put out, there'd be a few tommyguns sticking out of a car, and that'd be all that was write for "hardcore gangstazzz" ...

In other words, they'd be Al Cap0wned. :D

- M4H
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: FuZioN
nope, its the teens environment.

Parents, Surroundings and Friends/Peers all influence who they are.

You have to admit that the music doesn't help and is only an addition to that equation.

The music isn't entirely innocent in the matter.
 

minendo

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Originally posted by: Deeko
that's the weakest argument I've ever seen,.
Sadly it is an argument that is used all too often. Music and video games were blamed for Columbine and many other violence crimes committed by teens.

 

dquan97

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BET and MTV gangsta rap video and music are so destructive to viewers' self-image and self-worth because of the lyrics being used, the metamessage of selfishness and greed, and tawdry images shown.
 
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Originally posted by: minendo
I see no correlation between listening to rap and the destructive behavior. The article discusses watching videos, but once again I feel as though the problem does not lie in the watching of the video but more on the upbringing of the children by their parents.

I agree with this to an extent, but when this crap is presented as real life, and there is little to none parental guidance to negate it, it will have an effect on the people who see it as more than just entertainment. These 'artists' are seen as role models instead of entertainers, and people try to emulate those they idolize, it's just human nature. The music (or movie or video game) itself is never the problem, it's the skewed perception of it that some people seem to develop.
 

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: blakeatwork
So by that article, a white youth in Kansas is more likely to beat his wife, shoot some varmints, and lose his wife (sister), dog, house etc by listening to country music??

or some dude in Seattle is more likely to not bathe because he listens to alternative??

or how about that chick in New York who's more likely to bite someone in the neck because she listens to Industrial/Goth

Or her friend who's going to OD on "e" because she listens to Dance/Techno/Rave???

Come on... music has been a scapegoat for whatever problems affect youth....it;'s just lazy parents who need to use a smack on the arse every once in awhile...

you know, speaking of "gangsta's", I'd like to see Al Capone bust a move on the floor, or break off some phat rhymes... :p I bet he'd put "Fiddy-Cent" inhis place.... gangsta's... please...

Al Capone wouldn't bother to deal with these lowlifes on a personal basis ... he'd have a hit put out, there'd be a few tommyguns sticking out of a car, and that'd be all that was write for "hardcore gangstazzz" ...

In other words, they'd be Al Cap0wned. :D

- M4H

Dude that is fscking sweet. Al Cap0wned
 
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Originally posted by: Shaftatplanetquake
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: blakeatwork
So by that article, a white youth in Kansas is more likely to beat his wife, shoot some varmints, and lose his wife (sister), dog, house etc by listening to country music??

or some dude in Seattle is more likely to not bathe because he listens to alternative??

or how about that chick in New York who's more likely to bite someone in the neck because she listens to Industrial/Goth

Or her friend who's going to OD on "e" because she listens to Dance/Techno/Rave???

Come on... music has been a scapegoat for whatever problems affect youth....it;'s just lazy parents who need to use a smack on the arse every once in awhile...

you know, speaking of "gangsta's", I'd like to see Al Capone bust a move on the floor, or break off some phat rhymes... :p I bet he'd put "Fiddy-Cent" inhis place.... gangsta's... please...

Al Capone wouldn't bother to deal with these lowlifes on a personal basis ... he'd have a hit put out, there'd be a few tommyguns sticking out of a car, and that'd be all that was write for "hardcore gangstazzz" ...

In other words, they'd be Al Cap0wned. :D

- M4H

Dude that is fscking sweet. Al Cap0wned

That's been my CS/LaserQuest/Paintball name for quite some time now. :D

My CS spray

I also use "Don Corle0wned" :D

- M4H
 

Deeko

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Let me quote my writing book for my Humanities course, "Making Your Case"

An argument to the effect that X causes or caused Y is a causal argument. Before we advance such arguments, we should subject them to the same critical challenges as any other argument, By considering a few common patterns of causual reasoning and mistakes people make, we'll get an idea of some of the tpes of quetion it is wise to ask about our own causal arguments.
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An argument which says: "A was followed by B; therefore, A caused B" is known as post hoc, ergo propter hoc("after this, therefore because of this"). It's easy to challenge the logic of such arguments because the fact that one thing was followed by a second thing is not sufficient reason for thinking that the first thing caused the second thing. Something more is required to show that A caused B than that A was followed by B.
 

stormbv

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Originally posted by: dquan97
BET and MTV gangsta rap video and music are so destructive to viewers' self-image and self-worth because of the lyrics being used, the metamessage of selfishness and greed, and tawdry images shown.

That's kind of insulting, in a way. Yes, whoever listens to rap music is so weak-willed that they are that easily brainwashed, their self esteem just melts away with every video!.
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dolph

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Let me quote my writing book for my Humanities course, "Making Your Case"

An argument to the effect that X causes or caused Y is a casual argument. Before we advance such arguments, we should subject them to the same critical challenges as any other argument, By considering a few common patters of causual reasoning and mistakes people make, we'll get an idea of some of the tpes of quetion it is wise to ask about our own casual arguments.
...
An argument which says: "A was followed by B; therefore, A caused B" is known as post hoc, ergo propter hoc("after this, therefore because of this"). It's easy to challenge the logic of such arguments because the fact that one thing was followed by a second thing is not sufficient reason for thinking that the first thing caused the second thing. Something more is required to show that A caused B than that A was followed by B.


actually, it would be a causal argument ;)
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: dolph
Originally posted by: Deeko
Let me quote my writing book for my Humanities course, "Making Your Case"

An argument to the effect that X causes or caused Y is a casual argument. Before we advance such arguments, we should subject them to the same critical challenges as any other argument, By considering a few common patters of causual reasoning and mistakes people make, we'll get an idea of some of the tpes of quetion it is wise to ask about our own casual arguments.
...
An argument which says: "A was followed by B; therefore, A caused B" is known as post hoc, ergo propter hoc("after this, therefore because of this"). It's easy to challenge the logic of such arguments because the fact that one thing was followed by a second thing is not sufficient reason for thinking that the first thing caused the second thing. Something more is required to show that A caused B than that A was followed by B.


actually, it would be a causal argument ;)

fixed my multiple typos now :p