does life mean anything in iraq?

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MrWizzard

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Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: MrWizzard
....you do know more people die in the US by violent crime each day than that right....

could someone please in god's name tell me what the hell is the point of using this idiotic argument.

yeah, i know that in a nation of tens of millions, statistically there are more deaths by violent crimes than in iraq, like in china, india and all the highly populated countries

BUT NOTHING COMPARES TO THIS. it's totally different in its nature. it's called MASS KILLING of people EVERY SINGLE DAY.

now you tell me how that's comparable to anything?

It's comparable because a human life lost is a human life lost period. Why are you not yelling about the loss of life in the US, CHINA, ISREAL, SUDAN.

What is your point, do you really question if life means anything over there? If you do look at the pictures of people crying after they have lost their loved ones that should answer your question.


 

randomint

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Originally posted by: SolMiester
Originally posted by: Aimster
Bush did this.

What!....lol.

You sir, are talking out of your a....The killing is Iraq extremist's, difference is, we hear about the killing nowadays and the closed dictatorship never allowed such news before....

yeah, there were huge explosions on the in busy markets and streets and bloodbaths in iraq in Saddam's time but he did such a good job of keeping it all under wraps. :disgust:

go take a hike
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: randomint
90 killed yesterday, 30 today and this is just what's reported in the news. scores more are kidnapped everyday and many bodies are found which are not reported as casualties.

i mean no one fvcking kills cockroaches as fast as they are killing iraqis over there!

edit: and no, not P&N. just a general discussion on the value of life or lack thereof, nothing political

How many people die per day from random violence in the United States?

How many die per day from people going out of the way to kill someone else?

The OP is delusional.
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: SolMiester
Originally posted by: Aimster
Bush did this.

What!....lol.

You sir, are talking out of your a....The killing is Iraq extremist's, difference is, we hear about the killing nowadays and the closed dictatorship never allowed such news before....

yeah, there were huge explosions on the in busy markets and streets and bloodbaths in iraq in Saddam's time but he did such a good job of keeping it all under wraps. :disgust:

go take a hike
why did you choose to post this thread here rather than in P&N where it belongs?

 

Feldenak

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P&N is down the hall. You can tell which room it is from the wailing and gnashing of teeth.
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: SolMiester
Originally posted by: Aimster
Bush did this.

What!....lol.

You sir, are talking out of your a....The killing is Iraq extremist's, difference is, we hear about the killing nowadays and the closed dictatorship never allowed such news before....

yeah, there were huge explosions on the in busy markets and streets and bloodbaths in iraq in Saddam's time but he did such a good job of keeping it all under wraps. :disgust:

go take a hike
why did you choose to post this thread here rather than in P&N where it belongs?

The OP is an attention whoring troll comes to my mind.
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: SolMiester
Originally posted by: Aimster
Bush did this.

What!....lol.

You sir, are talking out of your a....The killing is Iraq extremist's, difference is, we hear about the killing nowadays and the closed dictatorship never allowed such news before....

yeah, there were huge explosions on the in busy markets and streets and bloodbaths in iraq in Saddam's time but he did such a good job of keeping it all under wraps. :disgust:

go take a hike
why did you choose to post this thread here rather than in P&N where it belongs?

The OP is an attention whoring troll comes to my mind.
well, that explains it.

 

spidey07

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Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: randomint
yeah, there were huge explosions on the in busy markets and streets and bloodbaths in iraq in Saddam's time but he did such a good job of keeping it all under wraps. :disgust:

go take a hike

Nah, he just gassed them back then. Sadam is our hero!

Eitherway, Sadam started this war and nobody else. You can't blame anybody but him.
 

k1pp3r

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Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: MrWizzard
....you do know more people die in the US by violent crime each day than that right....

could someone please in god's name tell me what the hell is the point of using this idiotic argument.

yeah, i know that in a nation of tens of millions, statistically there are more deaths by violent crimes than in iraq, like in china, india and all the highly populated countries

BUT NOTHING COMPARES TO THIS. it's totally different in its nature. it's called MASS KILLING of people EVERY SINGLE DAY.

now you tell me how that's comparable to anything?


Personaly i don't see how anyone could have predicted this outcome, the insurgents have a complete disregard for human life, they don't care who you are, they will kill you. There are so many groups fighting eachother over there i lost count.
 

SolMiester

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Dec 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: SolMiester
Originally posted by: Aimster
Bush did this.

What!....lol.

You sir, are talking out of your a....The killing is Iraq extremist's, difference is, we hear about the killing nowadays and the closed dictatorship never allowed such news before....

yeah, there were huge explosions on the in busy markets and streets and bloodbaths in iraq in Saddam's time but he did such a good job of keeping it all under wraps. :disgust:

go take a hike

Oh, sorry, didnt realise you lived their when Saddam's secret service were around killing everyone who opposed him.

How the hell would you know!, I certainly cant remember much news coverage of Iraq back then!!!
 

randomint

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Sep 16, 2006
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Originally posted by: MrWizzard
Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: MrWizzard
....you do know more people die in the US by violent crime each day than that right....

could someone please in god's name tell me what the hell is the point of using this idiotic argument.

yeah, i know that in a nation of tens of millions, statistically there are more deaths by violent crimes than in iraq, like in china, india and all the highly populated countries

BUT NOTHING COMPARES TO THIS. it's totally different in its nature. it's called MASS KILLING of people EVERY SINGLE DAY.

now you tell me how that's comparable to anything?

It's comparable because a human life lost is a human life lost period. Why are you not yelling about the loss of life in the US, CHINA, ISREAL, SUDAN.

What is your point, do you really question if life means anything over there? If you do look at the pictures of people crying after they have lost their loved ones that should answer your question.

that's good enough. i now have some sense of how you guys can digest this senseless killing because "statistically" it's only as bad as violent crimes in every country.

please forgive me for giving a rat's ass about the issue. go back to your YAGT and juvenile discussions.
 

Aimster

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Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: k1pp3r
Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: MrWizzard
....you do know more people die in the US by violent crime each day than that right....

could someone please in god's name tell me what the hell is the point of using this idiotic argument.

yeah, i know that in a nation of tens of millions, statistically there are more deaths by violent crimes than in iraq, like in china, india and all the highly populated countries

BUT NOTHING COMPARES TO THIS. it's totally different in its nature. it's called MASS KILLING of people EVERY SINGLE DAY.

now you tell me how that's comparable to anything?


Personaly i don't see how anyone could have predicted this outcome, the insurgents have a complete disregard for human life, they don't care who you are, they will kill you. There are so many groups fighting eachother over there i lost count.

It is a fight for political power.

The less of the other side the more powerful their side becomes.

It was easy to predict. Even Dick Cheney predicted it in the Gulf War. Yet he ignored his own suggestion.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: randomint
90 killed yesterday, 30 today and this is just what's reported in the news. scores more are kidnapped everyday and many bodies are found which are not reported as casualties.

i mean no one fvcking kills cockroaches as fast as they are killing iraqis over there!

edit: and no, not P&N. just a general discussion on the value of life or lack thereof, nothing political

How many people die per day from random violence in the United States?

How many die per day from people going out of the way to kill someone else?

what the hell's your point? i am talking about the senseless blowing up of scores of people to pieces as in your flesh being torn off of your body in a gazillion places and pools of blood and body parts strewn on the streets.

you think that's comparable to anything but itself?

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=...eless+gang+shootings&btnG=Search&meta=

Thats one search term we can find.

My point is, this happens everywhere. You can make the same argument that low income poverty stricken Americans (or even, since the stats back it up. Low Income African Americans) do not want to live, and have no values of life since it seems they are killing each other in scores over nothing. Its not so easy to just say "Omg life in Iraq means nothhhingg!!!" When you have the same issue at home.
 

Zolty

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Go protest a starbucks or something, and don't start this cr@p on AT, especially when you just got here.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: randomint
90 killed yesterday, 30 today and this is just what's reported in the news. scores more are kidnapped everyday and many bodies are found which are not reported as casualties.

i mean no one fvcking kills cockroaches as fast as they are killing iraqis over there!

edit: and no, not P&N. just a general discussion on the value of life or lack thereof, nothing political

How many people die per day from random violence in the United States?

How many die per day from people going out of the way to kill someone else?

That stuff happens in Iraq too.
The random violence in Iraq that are isolated incidents don't make the death count that you see on the cover of .. cnn, msnbc, foxnews.

Iraq is screwed up. It is 100% George W. Bush's fault.

I blame Islam for it's violent and primitive culture.
 

Aimster

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Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: randomint
90 killed yesterday, 30 today and this is just what's reported in the news. scores more are kidnapped everyday and many bodies are found which are not reported as casualties.

i mean no one fvcking kills cockroaches as fast as they are killing iraqis over there!

edit: and no, not P&N. just a general discussion on the value of life or lack thereof, nothing political

How many people die per day from random violence in the United States?

How many die per day from people going out of the way to kill someone else?

That stuff happens in Iraq too.
The random violence in Iraq that are isolated incidents don't make the death count that you see on the cover of .. cnn, msnbc, foxnews.

Iraq is screwed up. It is 100% George W. Bush's fault.

I blame Islam for it's violent and primitive culture.

Yes because civil wars are always Islam's fault.
They do not happen outside of Islamic cultures.

Brilliant post. Excellent. You convinced everyone it is Islam's fault.
 

RichardE

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Dec 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: randomint
90 killed yesterday, 30 today and this is just what's reported in the news. scores more are kidnapped everyday and many bodies are found which are not reported as casualties.

i mean no one fvcking kills cockroaches as fast as they are killing iraqis over there!

edit: and no, not P&N. just a general discussion on the value of life or lack thereof, nothing political

How many people die per day from random violence in the United States?

How many die per day from people going out of the way to kill someone else?

That stuff happens in Iraq too.
The random violence in Iraq that are isolated incidents don't make the death count that you see on the cover of .. cnn, msnbc, foxnews.

Iraq is screwed up. It is 100% George W. Bush's fault.

I blame Islam for it's violent and primitive culture.

It's more than that. You have the same mentality in Iraq that you do in any other inner city ghetto which is one of pure hopelessness overall. These people have nothing to look forwad too, hell they are worse off because they do not even have basic service available like plumping that works. Add into the fact a population who is use to being led, being told when to say something and when to not. Now they are free with no where to go, they have freedom but are more enslaved than they were before since now they have no hope of anything. So you have a group of people who are use to being led, who want to be led, and are now led by Death Squad leaders.

No one has an answer on how to solve the hopelessness that plagues the inner city of so many major cities, why do they think they can solve this hopelessness that is more concrete and more valid? Do you fix inner city issues by sending more cops in? What does that fix? Nothing, because all that happens is you get people who go "oh here comes the cops/ (US patrols in IRaq) lets wait till the pass before we go kill X because of ____ reason." The problem was we tried to bring democracy to a people that have never known it, has a taste of it, and have lived there entire life under a dictatorship. Do you think if we tried to forcibly bring democracy to communist Russia (1950's) the people would have made the adjustment easily? Of course not, its insane to think they will here as well.
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: randomint
90 killed yesterday, 30 today and this is just what's reported in the news. scores more are kidnapped everyday and many bodies are found which are not reported as casualties.

i mean no one fvcking kills cockroaches as fast as they are killing iraqis over there!

edit: and no, not P&N. just a general discussion on the value of life or lack thereof, nothing political

How many people die per day from random violence in the United States?

How many die per day from people going out of the way to kill someone else?

That stuff happens in Iraq too.
The random violence in Iraq that are isolated incidents don't make the death count that you see on the cover of .. cnn, msnbc, foxnews.

Iraq is screwed up. It is 100% George W. Bush's fault.

I blame Islam for it's violent and primitive culture.

Yes because civil wars are always Islam's fault.
They do not happen outside of Islamic cultures.

Brilliant post. Excellent. You convinced everyone it is Islam's fault.

Only islamist blow themself up in crowded schools and market places and fully expect to go to heaven.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: randomint
90 killed yesterday, 30 today and this is just what's reported in the news. scores more are kidnapped everyday and many bodies are found which are not reported as casualties.

i mean no one fvcking kills cockroaches as fast as they are killing iraqis over there!

edit: and no, not P&N. just a general discussion on the value of life or lack thereof, nothing political

How many people die per day from random violence in the United States?

How many die per day from people going out of the way to kill someone else?

That stuff happens in Iraq too.
The random violence in Iraq that are isolated incidents don't make the death count that you see on the cover of .. cnn, msnbc, foxnews.

Iraq is screwed up. It is 100% George W. Bush's fault.

I blame Islam for it's violent and primitive culture.

Yes because civil wars are always Islam's fault.
They do not happen outside of Islamic cultures.

Brilliant post. Excellent. You convinced everyone it is Islam's fault.

Only islamist blow themself up in crowded schools and market places and fully expect to go to heaven.

You know what they think now?