Does Leadtek GeForce Video Card Series Have A Decent Glide Wrapper

[JohnnyGHz]

I want to get the Creative Labs GeForce II 32MB DDR Video card which has a decent glide wrapper that allows me to play Unreal, but it doesn't support video out or DVD (My Creative Labs GeForce 256 Plays Unreal really well for an Open GL card).

If I get the leadtek card, I get video out and DVD and a slightly faster card with a large heat sink.


Is there a decent glide wrapper out there for the Leadtek Geforce video card series?

Thanks Guys

 

[odog]

why not just run it in D3D?

and all geforces should have roughly the same DVD playback.. just llok for some warez software DVD programs... trust me it's not that hard...

 

[Jonny]

I also ask why not run it in D3D? Are you worried a geforce 2 is not going to play UNREAL good enough?

 

[Kishkumen]

Doesn't Unreal Tournament at least have a much better frame rate running under Glide vs D3D. I know that Unreal Tournament is the only benchmark that shows the Voodoo5 beating the GeForce 2 simply b/c Glide works better than D3D in this game, so I see that as good incentive to get a good Glide wrapper. In response to the question, as far as I know only Creative has written a Glide wrapper and no one else. I actually have the CL Annihilator 2, but I always use NVidia's reference drivers, so I've never tested their Glide wrapper, I should try that sometime.

 

[AndyHui]

If you are worried about Glide wrappers, you can always go have a look at Glide Underground. They have a selection of Glide Wrappers there in their download section, most are quite functional, although I believe that running a Glide Wrapper on top of Direct3D is not necessarily faster than running Direct3D mode natively.

 

[Jonny]

Yeah, but for Unreal, are you going to notice the difference in FPS in anything except benchmarking?

 

[JohnnyGHz]

Before the my Creative Labs GeForce, I was running 2 monster2 3D cards.

The Graphic quality is with Creative's Glide wrapper on my GeForce 256 is very very close to the Voodoo Monster Cards.

I only notice the lower frame rate when I rotate.

 

[Noriaki]

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Have you seen the frame rates a GF2 Ultra will give you UT in D3D ?
As I recall Anand once did a Glide vs D3D comparison and it was a very small increase, and glide does not do 32bit colour at all (even with a V5)

Stick to D3D...It's a much more fully featured API anyways. I woudln't worry about Glide much.

Edit: Don't play in OpenGL the unreal engine sucks in OGL...D3D is much better for the Unreal engine.

(Unreal and UT are the same engine btw, so comment apply to both)

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Don't the latest V5 drivers enable 32bit color for Glide?

 

[Sephiroth_IX]

Glide cannot do 32-bit, period.

It should be tested if using a glide wrapper is faster in UT than running straight d3d. I'd be interested to read.

 

[BFG10K]

You are wasting your time with the Glide wrapper. You should be running the game in Direct 3D. The Glide wrapper is simply made for compatibility reasons to run older games that are Glide only.

Doesn't Unreal Tournament at least have a much better frame rate running under Glide vs D3D

A native Glide video card (ie Voodoo) runs it a bit faster than Direct 3D. A Glide wrapper will be much slower than native Direct 3D.

Don't the latest V5 drivers enable 32bit color for Glide?

No. Glide is limited to whatever the Voodoo 1 is capable of doing. ie small 16 bit textures. 3dfx don't support Glide anymore anyway so there will be no more future updates.

It should be tested if using a glide wrapper is faster in UT than running straight d3d. I'd be interested to read.

I would say with 99% certainty that native Direct 3D will be much faster than a Glide wrapper. As I said before the Glide wrapper is mainly for backward compatibilty with old Glide-only games.

 

[jpprod]

IMO Epic's D3D "implementation" in Unreal engine is nothing but a Glide wrapper itself