Does it bother you that everybody else can use/understand html but you?

[FelixDeCat]

Since I came into being pre-www it was not available to study when I was in school. And while I did have an interest in html I just never motivated myself to actually learn it. My cousin however who is older than I am embraced it wholeheartedly and has since earned a living designing webpages and maintaining them for small businesses. He taught himself everything during the heyday of the late 90s and early 2000s.

edit: Heres my website that Ive had since 2006 - http://felixdekat.com/default.aspx

 

[JohnCU]

i know html.

 

[Leros]

I don't know much more than a few basics, but I know how to code and I know how to look up information so I'm sure I could figure it out pretty quickly.

 

[waggy]

i know very little html. i keep wanting to take a class on it at the local community college but been lazy heh

 

[CrazyLazy]

If it really bothers you that much just teach yourself. Give yourself a week and you can become proficient enough to at least understand what's going on.

 

[spidey07]

What bothers me much, much, much more is the people developing web applications that have no freaking clue how the intarweb works. I distinctly remember the owner of a world wide web app (meaning he and a team of 15 people) and blaming, yet again, the load balancers for the problem.

My first question - "What's the URL?"
Response - "What do you mean URL?"
Screaming - "You mean to tell me you don't know what a URL is and you are the owner and developer of this application!!!!"
Response - "So what's wrong with the load balancers and what did you break it?"
*facepalm*

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
i know html.

<b>^^^</b>

 

[LtPage1]

I know enough of it to do what I need.

 

[xSauronx]

i know a little html and a little css, im taking a css/javascript class right now, but i dont care for coding or programming so im not putting much into it

 

[IEC]

It's pretty easy to learn. There are so many resources available online too (which was not as much the case when I taught myself HTML over a decade ago...)

 

[TruePaige]

I taught myself, though these days it's mostly languages and less markup needed to make a good site.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: spidey07
What bothers me much, much, much more is the people developing web applications that have no freaking clue how the intarweb works. I distinctly remember the owner of a world wide web app (meaning he and a team of 15 people) and blaming, yet again, the load balancers for the problem.

My first question - "What's the URL?"
Response - "What do you mean URL?"
Screaming - "You mean to tell me you don't know what a URL is and you are the owner and developer of this application!!!!"
Response - "So what's wrong with the load balancers and what did you break it?"
*facepalm*

Thats the thing about being a newbcheese at something. Its fun to annoy veterans in the business.

:laugh:

 

[Crono]

I know HTML and a little CSS. Surprisingly easy to learn. "Beginning HTML with CSS and XHTML" is a really good introductory book. I have a copy sitting on a shelf here.

 

[looker001]

I never cared to learn it.

 

[Descartes]

I've known HTML since '96, but that's not saying much. It takes very little actual effort to understand. It's everything else that takes the dedicated study time. It's kind of like saying you know how to write; that's great, but actually having something to write is the real issue.

So, knowing HTML these days means very little. If you don't know Java, C#, JavaScript, CSS, how to work with XML, SOA, web services, SOAP/XML-RPC, how to work with/around HTTP and similar protocols, databases, etc. then you're not going to build much of anything productive. And that doesn't even get into the architectural details.

[edit]Changed '06 to '96. That's a bit different.[/edit]

 

[SmoochyTX]

I taught myself.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Descartes
I've known HTML since '96, but that's not saying much. It takes very little actual effort to understand. It's everything else that takes the dedicated study time. It's kind of like saying you know how to write; that's great, but actually having something to write is the real issue.

So, knowing HTML these days means very little. If you don't know Java, C#, JavaScript, CSS, how to work with XML, SOA, web services, SOAP/XML-RPC, how to work with/around HTTP and similar protocols, databases, etc. then you're not going to build much of anything productive. And that doesn't even get into the architectural details.

[edit]Changed '06 to '96. That's a bit different.[/edit]

You mean to say I couldnt design a simple html page to generate thousands of dollars in revenue per month? :brokenheart:

Now Ill never do it.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

There are what, maybe 15 common tags to learn?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: spidey07
What bothers me much, much, much more is the people developing web applications that have no freaking clue how the intarweb works. I distinctly remember the owner of a world wide web app (meaning he and a team of 15 people) and blaming, yet again, the load balancers for the problem.

My first question - "What's the URL?"
Response - "What do you mean URL?"
Screaming - "You mean to tell me you don't know what a URL is and you are the owner and developer of this application!!!!"
Response - "So what's wrong with the load balancers and what did you break it?"
*facepalm*

Thats the thing about being a newbcheese at something. Its fun to annoy veterans in the business.

:laugh:

<cartman>
I hate you guys. I hate you guys so freaking much.

I hate you gys.
<cartman.

 

[Kalmah]

I made my first web page when I was about 9 years old. Just looking at source code from other websites. It was loaded with animated gif graphics of sonic the hedghog.. a couple horizontal rules, and blinking text.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

HTML is easy. The tough part these days is Javascript, database programming and backend code-behind.

Edit - plus CSS. Despite it's simplicity, CSS is the fucking devil because of poor browser support.

 

[Cheesetogo]

If it bothers you, learn it. You could probably learn basic HTML well in about 2 hours.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Topic Title: Does it bother you that everybody else can use/understand html but you?

No.

 

[txrandom]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
HTML is easy. The tough part these days is Javascript, database programming and backend code-behind.

Edit - plus CSS. Despite it's simplicity, CSS is the fucking devil because of poor browser support.

Unless you're good at CSS. Then it's fairly simple to make everything look the same across IE6/7, Firefox, Opera, and Safari.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: txrandom

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
HTML is easy. The tough part these days is Javascript, database programming and backend code-behind.

Edit - plus CSS. Despite it's simplicity, CSS is the fucking devil because of poor browser support.

Unless you're good at CSS. Then it's fairly simple to make everything look the same across IE6/7, Firefox, Opera, and Safari.

Depends on what you are trying to do.

Transparent PNG and IE 6 = Issues.
Rounded Edges have to be done with graphics because of IE
CSS element support varies between IE and general standards.

etc..