Does Iraq have nukes?

[Pretender]

I was just wondering. It'd be kinda bad for us if they did...

 

[shiner]

Yes. The former UN weapons inspector that was over there, before Iraq kicked them out, said that they had information that Iraq had at least one crude nuclear bomb and perhaps had another almost finished. If Clinton had been a man and stood up to Iraq and demanded the inspectors be allowed back in we would know for sure. Instead he chose to wuss out and pretend that the problem would go away instead of bombing Iraq back to the stone age. A recent report I read said that thanks to the U.S. being lax for the last 8 years in their enforcement of the "peace" treaty that was signed to end Desert Storm, that Saddam had his army back at pre war levels of manpower and equipment plus they had resumed their weapons of mass destruction program and had stockpiled a large amount of chemical and biological weapons.

 

[Double Trouble]

One would have to guess that they have at least some sort of device, but nothing ready to fire over a distance, and certainly not something that can be easily smuggled somewhere..... but that could change. :Q

 

[Capn]

They wouldn't want to use them unless saddam wants to be in charge of a radioactive piece of glass.

 

[JellyBaby]

No inspectors in there to say otherwise so we ought to assume they do. Same with other weapons of mass fubaration.

 

[Soybomb]

While they may have the warheads they most likely lack a way to deliver them such as an icbm. Besides the next use of a nuke will be by a terrorist faction somewhere, not a country

 

[shiner]

<< While they may have the warheads they most likely lack a way to deliver them such as an icbm >>



Actually from what I've read they have a new larger version of the Scud, some type of Korean rocket, that is capable of delivering a nuke. It doesn't have much of a range but could easily hit Israel, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and most of the other Middle Eastern countries.

Contrary to what was reported at the time Iraq did use some chemical weapons during Desert Storm so Saddam isn't afraid to use weapons of mass destruction. The only thing that would likely stop him from using a nuke is the fact that the U.S. would swiftly turn Iraq into the world's largest parking lot if he did.

 

[DarK SagE]

A country, even like an iraq will never use a nuke on us or any other country in the nuke age simply because if it did it would be vaporized.

It's more of a show of power than anything else. You can be that the second that Iraq stated publicly that it had a Nuke and a delivery system the U.S. would get the hell out of there and leave it alone.

I am afraid however, that some crazy T like Bin Ladden wold get his hands on a nuke, im pretty sure he would not hesitate to use it.

 

[shiner]

<< You can be that the second that Iraq stated publicly that it had a Nuke and a delivery system the U.S. would get the hell out of there and leave it alone. >>



I doubt it...if we didn't go in and destroy it you can bet that Israel would.

 

[Scrapster]

If they don't now. They probably will soon.
Iraq Threatens Retaliation for Western Attacks

 

[Soybomb]

Does anyone else find this picture a little disturbing too?

 

[shiner]

<< France, a member of the Gulf War (news - web sites) coalition that ended Iraq's 1990-91 occupation of Kuwait, said it wanted an explanation for the first Western air strike near Baghdad in over two years, adding such assaults hindered efforts to solve the Iraq problem. >>



Fvck France!! Those bastards have been subverting the embargo on Iraq for the last 6 years. They have been selling Iraq arms and buying black market Iraqi oil.

Damn French...if it wasn't for us they'd all be goose-stepping around and speaking German right now but they still have the balls to &quot;demand&quot; an explanation from us. In my opinion we don't owe them jack....except for maybe dropping another bomb or two on one of their embassy somewhere like we &quot;accidentally&quot; did in Libya after they refused to let our F-111's based out of England cross their airspace on the way to Libya. The funniest thing I remember about all of that was President Reagan responding to the outraged French government after it happened by saying &quot;if our pilots had not needed to fly around France and having hours added to their mission perhaps they would not have been so tired and could have accurately hit their targets.&quot;

 

[DarK SagE]

Soybomb:

I do but i must say that the im pretty sure that the gun the kid si holding is not real... Looks like an airsoft gun to me.

 

[DarK SagE]

Dbl post srry

 

[XMan]

<< While they may have the warheads they most likely lack a way to deliver them such as an icbm. Besides the next use of a nuke will be by a terrorist faction somewhere, not a country >>



True, but don't discount the possibility of state-sponsored terrorism, a la the World Trade Center bombing.

As far as a delivery system - a freighter pulling into New York harbor or a semi driving down the beltway in Washington, DC would work well enough, mehtinks. A nuke is a very, very big hammer, and you don't have to aim too hard at the nail to hit what you want to hit.

 

[zippy]

If Iraq launched ONE missile at any ally of the US, you can bet your sweet ass that they would wish they didn't. We wouldn't know if it was nuclear until it hit- and, we'd probably take it out mid-air and that would be even worse...then we'd counter with a whole lot of nukes and then some pansies would come out and say, &quot;You can't do that...there are civilians there!&quot; Boo hoo...civilians die in war- Saddam put the civilians there just for the purpose of pity and sympathy.

While I am a dem, I do wish Clinton had done more about Iraq.

 

[Jmman]

Just a couple of quick comments. To die for your &quot;god&quot; is the greatest honor for most mideast religious sects, so to say that Saddam would not use a nuclear bomb for fear of nuclear retaliation is naive. Secondly, as for the picture of the child with a gun(or toy gun), you must remember that the mideast is not the United States. It is a whole different ballgame over there. Have your ever seen the videos of the palestinian training camps? They have whole squadrons of children(many 10 years old and younger) that are training with automatic weapons, explosives, etc. Shocking as it is is for US citizens, the middle east has been a battleground for millenia.....makes you glad to live here....One last comment; if Iraq definitely had a nuclear bomb and was planning on using it, Israel would turn Iraq into a nuclear desert so fast it would make your head spin. The US wouldn't have to do anything. Israel would not wait for Saddam to shoot first either...

 

[DarK SagE]

Jmman: It is naive to think that the likes of Sadam are actually riligious fanatics. He is a politician and just like any other he feads of of power and does not want to lose it. Which is why no actual country, third world, second or first would ever lauch a nuke if there was a chance of retaliation. Terorim is a different story.

Also im not denieing that young kids may be taught to shoot guns, usese esplosives and other methods of killing people. Im just saying that the gun in the actual picture looks like a toy. It even has the warning sticker present on airsoft guns. The safty also looke like it's molded onto the gun and not an actual switch.

 

[DarK SagE]

Oh and it sucks to me, to live in NY. If anyone wanted to nuke the U.S. Ny is prolly the first place they would go for.

 

[Pretender]

I believe the max. range of a nuclear warhead/bomb/etc is a radius of 50 miles, and chances are they'll be nuking NYC. I'm only about 10 miles away from Times Square (the logical part of NYC to bomb), so if I don't die instantly, the residual radiation should take care of me

 

[DarK SagE]

Yep ill be pretty damn crispy if someone decides to nuke NY. I live in Brooklyn but im sure thsats still close enough

 

[hpkeeper]

it all doesn't make sense to me, why are we bombing over there? the second part is... why so suddenly? 3rd... we killed two civilians, Saddam has probably killed more that that of his own people for opposing any of his ideas, I think he's more of a dictator than anything else, so why would he launch a nuclear bomb into new york city where there are a ton of civilians? 2 does not = 20,000. BTW it couldn't reach that far anyways.

 

[shiner]

<< why are we bombing over there? >>



To enforce the No-Fly Zones that were put in place after the war to protect the Kurds in the North and the Siechs(however the hell you spell it) in the South.



<< the second part is... why so suddenly? >>



We fly missions over there everyday. Recently the Iraqis have been &quot;painting&quot; our planes with radar and locking missles onto them. We have told them repeatedly not to do this or we would destroy their radar intallations. There was nothing unusual about this bombing except for the fact that it happened close to Bagdad.





<< so why would he launch a nuclear bomb into new york city where there are a ton of civilians? >>



For the same reason he was lobbing Scuds at Israel and Saudi Arabia during the war...terror.

 

[Static911]

today, they threaten retaliation. OMG...if they mess wit us, if needed (despite the ban on draft), I will join Army (i always wanted to join the army) and fight for our nation.

Static911

 

[CromNogger]

&quot;An Iraqi child holds up a toy pistol during a demonstration on February 17, 2001, staged by 5,000 Iraqis to protest the U.S-British air strikes on Baghdad.&quot;

Disturbing indeed