Does having Better more expensive Earbuds make sound louder/better?

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OP, there's a lot of things that go into loudness and sound quality. These days you hit diminishing returns hard very quickly, but in my experience its not too difficult to outdo the mass branded cheap stuff you'll find at typical stores. Not saying they're terrible, but you'd probably have a revelatory experience if you listened to some of the $50-100 IEMs. Only thing is you'd need to find one that suits your music and listening preferences. I'm not saying to go and fall off the deepend, but something to consider. You should check around and see if you might have a store where you can demo stuff.

The one caveat though is that, you may or may not find the value in doing that, with regards to money. By that I mean, it sounds like you go through these fairly often, which cheap earbuds/IEMs do tend to have durability issues, or possibly losing them (which if its the former, there's some very rugged/well made ones for not ridiculous cost; if its the latter, then maybe look into shirt clips and things like that which would make them easier to keep from losing them).

I had a friend that used to go through headphones, I'd recommend whatever the new good sounding but cheap headphones at the time were, but they kept breaking. I finally convinced him to splurge on some V-Modas (I think around $100) due to their durability (helped that they also had decent sound for the price). He's had them for like 5 years now and they're still going strong. Before that he was spending probably $30 a year on headphones as they'd break after about a year of use, so he actually saved money by splurging a bit on some better quality ones.

Another thing to look into with earphones are the tips, as they can make a big difference in the sound quality/comfort. Weirdly, I found the smooth surface foam tips that I got with JVC Marshmallows (not sure they still make them, got mine at Wal-Mart for like $10 around 10 years ago), which resemble Shure "olives", to be the best for comfort and sound across a range of IEMs I used them on.

But there's nothing wrong with sticking with what works for you, and no shame in cheap stuff. There were plenty of times when I just put on my old KSC-75s for listening on Youtube and things like that versus using my big nice full-sized headphones, and the sound was quite enjoyable. If they were more isolation and circumaural, and I hadn't been exposed to some headphones that did stuff sonically that I hadn't heard from anything else (headphones or speakers - granted I didn't have the ability to have nice high end speaker setups due to cost and living situation), I probably would've been happy enough to not bother with most other headphones even.

I don't know how the hell anyone can stand earbuds. They hurt my sensitive ears... :D

Are you talking physical sensitivity or sound sensitivity (by that I mean, comfort or loudness)? With good IEMs you should be able to listen at lower volumes. But Apple even upgraded the stock earbuds so they're actually not nearly as awful as they used to be. If its comfort you should try some legit IEMs (not earbuds since they won't seal and thus you'll lose out on bass response which will likely cause you to push volume higher to compensate), and try different tips, it can make all the difference (I really don't know how people do deep insertion with stuff like tri-flange silicone tips).

I wish Phonak hadn't left the consumer market, they made what are probably the most comfortable universal fit IEMs I ever had/tried. Only customs came close to that level of fit/comfort for me.
 

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Over $10k just on headphones?! Over 300 earbuds alone?! Good god man, what are you doing with all of them??

To answer OP's question, as someone who has listened to cheap $1 ear buds you get at dollar general for most of her life, I could distinctly tell the difference in quality when I got a popular Panasonic pair off Amazon for a Jefferson.


He is having his lego army field test them. Along with the Glocks.
 

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I own several dozen headphones and earbuds ranging from 20 bucks to well in the hundreds and in earbuds I hate em all. They never stay in, even with foam, I get earaches and headaches. I always fall back to over the ear wired quality headphones.
 

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I own several dozen headphones and earbuds ranging from 20 bucks to well in the hundreds and in earbuds I hate em all. They never stay in, even with foam, I get earaches and headaches. I always fall back to over the ear wired quality headphones.


I also have trouble using universals, no matter what tips I use. Customs all the way for me. My Noble Audio K10, I have posted them before in other threads.

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Okay so what would be LOUDER than my JVC Gummies because these things are pretty loud and got decent base.
 

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Something with higher sensitivity will be louder.
True that would make sense. I actually don't even know where to start looking brand wise. Can you guys throw some stuff out there (Earbuds only please) Under $40 that would be Louder than the JVC Gummies? These things kick man! for what they are worth.
 

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No, but having better hearing makes a huge difference. Don't go too high on the volume and you will hear a lot more for a lot longer.
My doctor also told me never put anything smaller than my elbow into my ears, that's good advice. Headphones are better than earbuds.
 

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No, but having better hearing makes a huge difference. Don't go too high on the volume and you will hear a lot more for a lot longer.
My doctor also told me never put anything smaller than my elbow into my ears, that's good advice. Headphones are better than earbuds.
Okay sounds good.
 

sdifox

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I own several dozen headphones and earbuds ranging from 20 bucks to well in the hundreds and in earbuds I hate em all. They never stay in, even with foam, I get earaches and headaches. I always fall back to over the ear wired quality headphones.


There are many earbuds with different size soft caps that will fit your earhole and stay in.

Example

https://www.amazon.ca/6pcs-Replacement-Sennheiser-Earphone-Headsets/dp/B00D4SNJ8U

I use large.

Or go pro and get moulded IEMs.
 

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There are many earbuds with different size soft caps that will fit your earhole and stay in.

Example

https://www.amazon.ca/6pcs-Replacement-Sennheiser-Earphone-Headsets/dp/B00D4SNJ8U

I use large.

Or go pro and get moulded IEMs.
Yea the JVC Gummies I use has them.


I guess I really wouldn't benefit from having louder Volume than what I already have using my JVC gummies using them on my Galaxy s6 so I am just going to be happy with what i have now. The Volume with my Galaxy s6 and the Gummies is excellent! I was just curious to be honest.
 

sdifox

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Yea the JVC Gummies I use has them.


I guess I really wouldn't benefit from having louder Volume than what I already have using my JVC gummies using them on my Galaxy s6 so I am just going to be happy with what i have now. The Volume with my Galaxy s6 and the Gummies is excellent! I was just curious to be honest.


Could always carry an altoid amp. Personally I wouldn't. There is no fixing hearing.

https://tangentsoft.net/audio/cmoy/
 

sdifox

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Wow that's genius! but I am really not good at doing projects like this. Thanks for sharing, very interesting.
You can buy it on ebay fully built. Dont really need it for earbuds, they are more for big headphones. Like people that want to walk around with home headohones.
 
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sdifox

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Man that's awesome I didn't know about this stuff. How much you think it would total to complete it and have it running.


Err you just need a box and a power source. Spec says 8-24 vdc, so you could use a six AA cell battery holder, hook it up to the dc input, use a stereo m-m minijack cable to connect amp to your phone and you plug in your earbuds to the amp. Done.

Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/202025880065
 

EpicSurvivor

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Err you just need a box and a power source. Spec says 8-24 vdc, so you could use a six AA cell battery holder, hook it up to the dc input, use a stereo m-m minijack cable to connect amp to your phone and you plug in your earbuds to the amp. Done.
Oh okay that's cool. I have no idea how any of that works to be honest. I don't even know how to solder.
 

sdifox

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Oh okay that's cool. I have no idea how any of that works to be honest. I don't even know how to solder.

Not all that hard, though if you don't have a soldering iron, it may become expensive buying tools and shit :p 9v batteries are just horrible. Low power density.

This is a must

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alcoholbob

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As the owner of over 300 earbuds from $4-$350, yes $50 earbuds will generally sound better than $15 earbuds. Whether that sound difference is worth it to you is a personal choice. Recently I spent over $10K on headphones, yet I still don't mind using $4 earbuds. But you can totally tell the difference in sound quality and comfort.

Not sure what the distribution of the costs of those earbuds are, but seems like 300 earbuds ranging from $4-350 would require you to spend at least several thousand dollars, if not tens of thousands.

Really surprising you managed to spend that much on earbuds/IEMs and not actually be tempted to dip your toes into high end IEMs--i.e. with electrostatic, beryllium, diamond or 10+ BA driver ones (those iems tend to be in the $1k+ range). In fact if I were you I would sell half of those iems and give a listen to a top of the line in ear monitor like the Shure KSE1500, Audeze LCD-i4, 64 Audio Tia Fourte, etc. It might completely change your audio experience.

Out of curiosity, which headphones did you end up getting?
 
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sdifox

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Not sure what the distribution of the costs of those earbuds are, but seems like 300 earbuds ranging from $4-350 would require you to spend at least several thousand dollars, if not tens of thousands.

Really surprising you managed to spend that much on earbuds/IEMs and not actually be tempted to dip your toes into high end IEMs--i.e. with electrostatic, beryllium, diamond or 10+ BA driver ones (those iems tend to be in the $1k+ range). In fact if I were you I would sell half of those iems and give a listen to a top of the line in ear monitor like the Shure KSE1500, Audeze LCD-i4, 64 Audio Tia Fourte, etc. It might completely change your audio experience.

Out of curiosity, which headphones did you end up getting?


You must be new to Madoka, ATOT baller
 
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Just got my Dunu DK-3001's today and been listening to them for 6 hours. Amazing IEM's for just under $500. They compete with TOTL IEM's according to the reviews. Basically IEM's that cost around $800-$1K.

Probably going to sell my Dunu DN-2000J's at this point. But really, there is a point of diminishing returns. I think I hit my high point. This is aural bliss. Natural sounding but a lil bit fun sound signature. Spacious soundstage. Give it to me...

This is the problem with higher end audio. You think you are good to go, but then a bit later the siren song sings. BUY ANOTHER SET AND UPGRADE!