Does God hate sinners?

[techs]

Or is he just kinda disappointed in them?

see posts 10, 26, 45 and possibly others.
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[GagHalfrunt]

God hates everyone. All of the people he created in his image are born as a giant pile of shit, hopelessly broken and not fit for anything until he magically fixes them.

 

[Red Storm]

Not sure what kind of answer you're expecting here...

 

[Brigandier]

God Thinks

 

[momeNt]

God hates everyone. All of the people he created in his image are born as a giant pile of shit, hopelessly broken and not fit for anything until he magically fixes them.

Coming from someone with a FSM in their avatar I doubt you know what god thinks, and probably don't even believe in god.

I like your quote though, i use it to draw similarities between religion and government.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Coming from someone with a FSM in their avatar I doubt you know what god thinks, and probably don't even believe in god.
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Right, right, it's all the wannabelievers who really know what god thinks because a few schizophrenic assholes two thousand years ago say that god told them.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Right, right, it's all the wannabelievers who really know what god thinks because a few schizophrenic assholes two thousand years ago say that god told them.

When was the last time you met someone with schizophrenia that were as accomplished as those folks?

Do you ever wonder, deep in yourself, why Christianity is spreading so very quickly?

The fact is that there are literally billions of people on this earth that believe in Christ because it is in the Christian faith that they have found freedom from selfish desires that hurt others and keep them from being the best person they can be.

You may not want to be a part of that, you may even think it silly, you may even object to how the ideas are used in a macro sense. But to insult the ideas themselves, ideas that have freed so many people to reach their greatest potential, is intellectually dishonest.

 

[IronWing]

http://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/image-205.jpg

 

[RearAdmiral]

Which God?

 

[JM Aggie08]

Stupid question deserves stupid answer.

 

[JM Aggie08]

God hates everyone. All of the people he created in his image are born as a giant pile of shit, hopelessly broken and not fit for anything until he magically fixes them.

Good, good. Let the butthurt flow through you.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

When was the last time you met someone with schizophrenia that were as accomplished as those folks?

Do you ever wonder, deep in yourself, why Christianity is spreading so very quickly?

The fact is that there are literally billions of people on this earth that believe in Christ because it is in the Christian faith that they have found freedom from selfish desires that hurt others and keep them from being the best person they can be.

You may not want to be a part of that, you may even think it silly, you may even object to how the ideas are used in a macro sense. But to insult the ideas themselves, ideas that have freed so many people to reach their greatest potential, is intellectually dishonest.

Everything you said applies to Islam too. And Hinduism and Bhuddism. People tend to believe what their parents teach them to believe. (Converts to/from any religion tend to be a very small %.) Simultaneously insisting that any one religion is the One True Way is what's really intellectually dishonest.

As for the spread of Christianity, it was co-opted by the Roman Empire for political reasons and forcibly spread through Europe by violence and coercion.

But you can go on ignoring facts whenever you want - this is America, where Christians are NOT persecuted no matter how much they might wish they were.

As to the OP, I'm pretty sure the standard issue answer is "love the sinner, hate the sin."

 

[SlitheryDee]

No. The deal is that God loves everyone. He just doesn't do any of the things that we normally would associate with love. But see, he tells us that he loves us.

It's just like a husband who gets a little rough with his wife every now and then. She might think he doesn't love her while he's showing her the backside of his hand, but he insures that she stays in the relationship by telling her that he loves her and is only doing what's best for her while she lies bruised and battered on the kitchen floor. Of course she knows that whatever he says must be the truth, even if nothing he does seems to bear it out. It's that way with God too.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

When was the last time you met someone with schizophrenia that were as accomplished as those folks?

Do you ever wonder, deep in yourself, why Christianity is spreading so very quickly?

The fact is that there are literally billions of people on this earth that believe in Christ because it is in the Christian faith that they have found freedom from selfish desires that hurt others and keep them from being the best person they can be.

You may not want to be a part of that, you may even think it silly, you may even object to how the ideas are used in a macro sense. But to insult the ideas themselves, ideas that have freed so many people to reach their greatest potential, is intellectually dishonest.

1) These people were not accomplished. They had the education and world knowledge of an anti-social, slightly retarded turnip. Which explains their current followers.

2) Christianity is DYING, not spreading. It's gaining among the stupid and where it is spread at gunpoint, but in the civilized, educated world it's shrinking at a rate that has the Vatican in a tizzy. Soon your little zombie god will be on the scrapheap of history with Horus and Attis and the other "born of a virgin, died, resurrected, eat his flesh" pagan gods that the Christians stole him from.

Sorry I understand your fairy tales better than you do and that you view knowledge of the facts of where the biblical myths came from to be "intellectually dishonest". But of course, if you knew jack about your invisible man in the sky you wouldn't be able to believe in him. Just console yourself that if god didn't want us to use our brains to kick your ass with them he wouldn't have bestowed them upon us, so perhaps it's all part of his plan that you make yourself look so silly.

The Christian ideas might be fine, you know, except for the ones that command you to rape, pillage and sell your enemies and even your own children into slavery. Too bad you can't find any Christians that actually practice the good ideas. Modern Christianity is greed, violence, oppression and hatred of everyone including themselves because since god hates christians they feel they might as well go along with him. Or are those the good ideas you're talking about?

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Right, right, it's all the wannabelievers who really know what god thinks because a few schizophrenic assholes two thousand years ago say that god told them.

Like most, can't separate god from Christianity, much less religion. Indoctrinated much?

 

[JM Aggie08]

I guess it had a been a few weeks since we had one of these threads.

*ignored and unsubscribed*

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Being an atheist is equally as stupid as holding fervently to a religion which defines god.

 

[sandorski]

Being an atheist is equally as stupid as holding fervently to a religion which defines god.

Interesting, care to explain?

 

[SheHateMe]

God is love....

...except if you're gay.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Being an atheist is equally as stupid as holding fervently to a religion which defines god.

No it's not. Most atheist would admit to the possibility, however slim, of the theist's world view being correct. The theist would never do that.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Interesting, care to explain?

I would think it doesn't require any, but okay.

You can neither prove nor disprove the existence of god. This is a fact.

Atheist: There is no god, period. Anyone who thinks that is a retard. (stupid you can't prove that)
Agnostic: I dunno, whatever.
Spiritualist: I think there is a god, but I'm not ever going to burden you with it; do as you like.
Religious: There is a god, and this is what he thinks, and therefore this is how you should act. (stupid, you can not prove that)

Atheists and the religious think they know something they can't know and act accordingly. Both extremes make judgments about everyone else based on faulty logic.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

No it's not. Most atheist would admit to the possibility, however slim, of the theist's world view being correct. The theist would never do that.

Then they are not atheists. By definition it is an extreme.

 

[sandorski]

I would think it doesn't require any, but okay.

You can neither prove nor disprove the existence of god. This is a fact.

Atheist: There is no god, period. Anyone who thinks that is a retard. (stupid you can't prove that)
Agnostic: I dunno, whatever.
Spiritualist: I think there is a god, but I'm not ever going to burden you with it; do as you like.
Religious: There is a god, and this is what he thinks, and therefore this is how you should act. (stupid, you can not prove that)

Atheists and the religious think they know something they can't know and act accordingly. Both extremes make judgments about everyone else based on faulty logic.

Atheist=Non Theist

Your Strawman is just a Strawman. You are essentially saying that Believing in "God" is as stupid as Not Believing in "God". There is no position that isn't "Stupid", according to your argument.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Then they are not atheists. By definition it is an extreme.

So you're using the most extreme definition of atheism in order to attack all atheists. Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Then they are not atheists. By definition it is an extreme.

That's not true. Most atheists realize that all beliefs regarding God and religion are actually opinions being held by individuals. Being an atheist means being of the opinion that there is no God. Being a theist means being of the opinion that there is a God. If all either of them have is an opinion based on limited evidence, there's no way that either should be able obtain certainty.

That said, being uncertain is not the same thing as having no opinion on the matter. Therefor the degrees of atheism and theism can be said to follow a pretty smooth gradient from "feeling" certain that there is no God on one end, to "feeling" certain that there is a God on the other, depending on the strength of the individual's opinion. Most atheist fall somewhere in between, while I think it's pretty safe to say that most theist are clustered near the extreme theism end.