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does Dr. Tom know something we don't??

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acejj26

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hey guys, check this out:

Tom's

look at the table, and about halfway down the page, he lists the voltage draw for the Thoroughbred as 1.5V. I thought I remember seeing that the voltage would be either 1.6V or 1.65V. If Tom is correct, be prepared to see a 27% drop in power consumed, clock-for-clock with the new T-bred. This would be fantastic, in my mind, since it would allow for (theoretically) 2400 MHz T-bred's drawing the same power (and thus dissipating similar heat) as a AXP 2100+. Mind you that a 2400 MHz T-bred, if using the same rating scheme as the AXP, would have a performance rating of 3100+!!!!!!!

i think this would prove fantastic for AMD. of course this could have been a typo on their page, but if it is correct, we could see a real fight between the new T-breds and the new Northwoods
 
Seems like he knows more than us yea. First time i heard about the dual channel DDR.


Highly confidential roadmap documents, which are revealed to only the closest of partners, prove that the manufacturer will already be introducing a chipset with Dual DDR support at the end of this year. This is supposed to provide the bandwidth required for P4 CPUs with clock speeds starting from 3 GHz.
 
I just read that..

No 850E from Abit?

Why is everyone jumping on the DDR bandwagon when it is clear it can't compete until it sees dual channel DDR?

He also lists June as the date for the 850E is this right?
 
It kind of has me leaning towards just buying now and OC'ing a little bit. Rather than waiting till June to see the 850E... I hate to wait, but I also hate to be stuck at a max of 2.4Ghz 400FSB chips.

What to do what to do....
 
steelcity....good point.....why shell out $500+ for a 2400/100 when you can spend $180 for an 1800/100 and easily O/C it to 2400/133 which will outperform it's newer, more expensive brother? personally, i think i can wait till the Hammer series....i'm running my Athlon 1000 at 1533 and, even though i'm on a KT266 (not KT266A), i can still play everything REALLY smoothly. currently, there are no games or apps for me that slow my machine down, so why upgrade? however, the T-bred voltage thing has my attention, since I could possibly throw a 2400 MHz T-bred into my machine and i won't have to buy any new cooling equipment
 
Well, after hearing that the new 533FSB chipset was pushed up two weeks, I initially decided to wait based on the fact that my tax check was still no where in sight. I planned on just waiting to get the new motherboard, and buying a 400Mhz FSB P4 and PC800 RDRAM. This way, I would have a MoBo certified at 533 which would take me well beyond the 2.4 max on the 400Mhz FSB. Upgrading to the latest expensive 533Mhz FSB P4 would not happen until they scaled higher and became much cheaper.

I then found out my check was mailed on Friday, so waiting becomes harder. I only require a major upgrade every 2 years or so, so I am thinking about just getting the stuff now. I see many people running great overclocks and doing them 24/7 with no adverse effects.
 
Don't hold your breath for Dual-channel DDR. You can get that level of performance already out of cheaper PC800 RDRAM. For PC3200 (DDR400) prices you can get hand-picked PC1066 modules, which make DDR memory look pretty impractical for the P4A.

Dual-channel DDR is likely to be validated at PC1600 for servers way before it hits the mainstream market. Don't expect dual-channel DDR boards in the consumer market until six months after its release in the server market.

DDR is getting a bad rap because most of the old reviews center around PC1600 (DDR200) and PC2100 (DDR266) speeds. Lately the PC2700 (DDR333) memory has been pretty impressive on 400fsb Northwoods. Granted the PC2700 cannot keep up with the 533fsb Northwoods, but we've yet to see much on how well PC3200 can perform with them. Until then enjoy SiS645Dx and PC3200 (DDR400) using a 1:1 memory to fsb setting for 400fsb Northwoods. The 533fsb Northwoods should follow soon enough and you can just step down to 2:3 memory to fsb ratio using that same PC3200 memory.
 
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