I don't have a problem with the registry so much as how much it's clogged by useless stuff or other stuff that should be hardcoded/hidden somewhere else.
Rubycon
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I run regclean.exe.
Funny how for the longest time you could run it a few times and the undo file would only get so small and it would always have the fix errors option.
With a fully patched XP box, usually a second pass will produce a fully clean registry with no fix option and the undo file is very small on the last run.
Not that it makes a bit of difference in speed but I've been doing it since the 9x days.
Funny how for the longest time you could run it a few times and the undo file would only get so small and it would always have the fix errors option.
With a fully patched XP box, usually a second pass will produce a fully clean registry with no fix option and the undo file is very small on the last run.
Not that it makes a bit of difference in speed but I've been doing it since the 9x days.
Are you noticing no slowdowns otherwise? Runs fine for awhile then hangs for a few seconds, then works like nothing happened? That's the exact problem I'm talking about. Turn off Autocomplete, clear all the saved stuff in Internet Options in the Autocomplete area (saved forms, addresses, passwords, etc..), and run a registry cleaner. Works like a charm.
Winpatrol is basically MSCONFIG on steroids. I really can't say enough good things about it, it's the single most useful and well-designed program I've ever seen.
www.winpatrol.com
www.winpatrol.com
gsellis
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Here is a different approach. Create a new user and use that one. While system has all of what it does, you start a clean entry with a newer profile. But, you do need to get your documents if you have anything in My Documents. If you can create a new profile and it runs much faster than your old one, then a reg cleaner 'might' help you. I say 'might' because some app settings, the poorly designed ones and the one's where you said "Install for this user only, may not be present in the new profile. Missing components would make it seem faster at the loss of what was in to old one. But then again, it may be just what you want.
gsellis
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I had to create a boot process to allow a WFWG 3.11 laptop that would boot with a token-ring, ethernet, and wireless adapter (yes, really - had them in 1995) and boot without any. Forget the util, but the config.sys, autoexec.bat, win.ini, system.ini, and protocol.ini had to be altered as part of the start process. Getting really long ini files too. Boy did I like Win 95, plug and pray and not having to mess with the registry.Originally posted by: Oyeve
Originally posted by: gsellis
Yeah, because win.ini and system.ini were soooo much better...
Well, it was easier to back up and play with and fix.
OS/2 was unfun too. But at least now, you can boot with Win PE and fix the registry.
It's funny how often people fault Microsoft for decisions they have made over time, in response to historical conditions that no longer exist. Windows has been around 17 or 18 years now, DOS even longer. Back in the late eighties and early nineties most programs stored their configuration locally, in .ini files, or proprietary formats. MS thought a more centralized standard repository was a good idea, as did most customers, so they put it in. It worked pretty well for years. But people now install so much stuff, the stuff they install is so much more complicated, and the people who script install packages (or more accurately, uninstall packages) suck at it so badly, that the registry has become a vulnerability rather than a benefit. They are now pushing application configuration back toward the file system using the user directory structure and XML data formats, and supporting this model through APIs in the .Net framework. Things change.
Registry "bloat" and system performance... I don't buy that there's much of a link at all, except in specific circumstances. Those are pretty much limited to when a program tries to read bad registry data and either hangs or slows way down. Other than that the effects would be that the registry would be larger on disk, take more time to search, etc.
But unless your registry is like 50% old, stale keys, I can't see this really making a difference.
Back when Win98 was the standard I came to be of some renown for manual registry cleaning. But back then the registry was way smaller than it is in XP. That and I was much more the expert. Now I used Microsoft's own reg cleaner for WinXP. It's called RegClean, go figure! You can find it in the Powertoys section of their website. It has removed errant entries for me and has never hosed my system.
From the MS site:
"The RegClean utility is no longer supported and has been removed from all Microsoft download sites."
"The RegClean utility is no longer supported and has been removed from all Microsoft download sites."
i use Registry Mechanic every once in a while. get's rid of a lot of things that other cleaners don't get. also compacts and defrags the registry which can speed up boot time and such.
I found "Eusing Free Registry Cleaner" on the web. It worked fine. I think it said it removed 1,693 entries - and it solved a problem I had with an aborted install that had made a game not able to install.
I have Registry First Aid and EasyCleaner, & run one or the other pretty often..
Back in Windows 98 days my experience convinced me of the benefits of registry cleaning . Over time a lot of little features had stopped functioning. After I heard about registry cleaning r& ran one, things were revivified. Ever since I've continued to run cleaners.
I do registry cleaning & defrag probably more often than most people, & think it helps prevent problems from developing.
Back in Windows 98 days my experience convinced me of the benefits of registry cleaning . Over time a lot of little features had stopped functioning. After I heard about registry cleaning r& ran one, things were revivified. Ever since I've continued to run cleaners.
I do registry cleaning & defrag probably more often than most people, & think it helps prevent problems from developing.
shortylickens
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I have noticed (even in XP Pro SP2) that cleaning the registry does improve boot times slightly. After the boot I dont see any difference.
Right after that I usually run Adaware and SpybotSD.
Will certainly make note of the programs I've seen here today.
Right after that I usually run Adaware and SpybotSD.
Will certainly make note of the programs I've seen here today.
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