does celeron 2 have sse instructions was going to buy a celeron but will buy pentium 3 if it does not have sse instr.

[tazman]

what is the best celeron 2 for overclocking.And does celeron 2 have sse instr.

 

[jsbush]

Yes the celeron 2 has SSE. The best one for overclock I would have to say is the 566.

 

[tazman]

thxs

 

[Whitedog]

Celeron 2 (as you put it) IS a Pentium iii... intensionally crippled by Intel. How nice of them huh. Yes, it's the same chip, with half the L2 disabled, and the bus locked at 66.
At least AMD is ethical enough to make the duron as a unique CPU, and not a crippled Tbird.

 

[paulerdos]

how is selling a celeron as a "crippled pentium" not ethical?

 

[kami]

yeah? I mean, they charge less, so what isn't ethical about it?

 

[paulerdos]

well, even if they didn't charge less, what would be unethical about it? they're not forcing you to buy anything, they say "here is some stuff we're selling, you can buy it if you want to or you can buy someone else's products if you don't like it."

so how can this be "unethical" ?

 

[Remnant2]

I agree, there's nothing unethical about it. It's just like selling the 486s that had failed FPUs as 486SXs, for cheaper.

Of course, this doesn't change the fact that the Celly 1 or 2 gets the crap kicked out of it by Durons, Athlons, P3s, and probably even P4s.

 

[JasonG]

The celeron II was a good deal several months ago.

Now, I think I would go with a 1 GHz Thunderbird Athlon (<$200) if I was getting a new mothernboard.

If you have a PIII compatible MB already and don't want to switch, get a PIII, 800 MHz is also <$200.

My $0.02.

Jason

 

[Dark4ng3l]

I think what he meant was that it was unethical to cripple perfectly good chips just to sell them for less $.

 

[abracadabra1]

duron is king.
go for a duron unless you already have a celeron2 mobo.
then you might as well just go w/ the 566 and bump it to 850+

 

[Noriaki]

I dunno if it's unethecal...seems sorta silly that the P3 and C2 are the exact same chip but sell for very different prices.

But simply put the Celeron2 is a standard consumer good, the P3 is a luxury consumer good. The P3 demands a much higher price and higher margins for the company because of this.

Intel needs a luxury and a regular version of the CPU, or else the Duron (or even the K6-2) would clean up quite nicely on them...
It seems to me that it would make more sense to produce a chip that actually only had 128k of cache instead of wasting all those transistors.
But maybe intel decided the Design cost for a new CPU was more than the cost of the waste.

Edit: oh yeah, the 533A and 566 C2s would be the best overclockers...the lower the default speed the better, because the P3 was already much higher than these when the C2 was released, so a lot of them should be able to reach 800+ because that's where the core was at when they started C2 production.

 

[Whitedog]

Dark4ngel, yes. Thanks.

 

[tazman]

so you dont think the celeron II 633 would be a better overclocker.