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Does being late to work really matter that much?

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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: gscone
As a mgr, depends on what my co-workers task's are for the day. I've canned a few people just for the sake of them always being late to meetings, prior commitments related to work...

Yeah I agree with that... if you have a meeting or engagement you better be on time... but the be at work by 8:00AM so help you god crap.... that just strikes me a as unnecessary harassment.

-Max



harrassment? :roll:


Yeah... getting on my case every morning for being 15 minutes late... that just creates unnecessary stress.... it would be one thing if I wasnt getting my work done, and done well. But as long as that is happening... getting on someone's case about something as trivial as being late for the first 2 hours when everyone sits around like zombies with coffee cups trying to wake up, that is harassment. STFU leave me alone... if I'm not getting my work done, then bitch at me... otherwise GFYS....

As for bank tellers, and the like positions... I agree with what others have said... then you have to be on-time... which is why I don't like those jobs.🙂

-Max

Do you get paid for the amount of hours you are at work? Or is it a fixed rate for the amount of projects you complete?
 
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: TheShiz
I wouldn't hire any engineer who says "meh"

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Fixed.
 
Originally posted by: nocash
As a retail manager if someone shows up late often just shows they don't care enough about the job and are fired. As someone out there really needs the job. Same with someone who calls off alot, a reliable person calls off maybe 3-4 times a year. Slackers about once every payday. Pretty easy to tell the difference 🙂

But how many people care about their retail work? That's one of those just for the paycheck jobs. I wouldn't last 3 hours at a job like that.

-Max
 
Originally posted by: ribbon13
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: TheShiz
I wouldn't hire any engineer who says "meh"

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saved 🙂
 
Originally posted by: ribbon13
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: TheShiz
I wouldn't hire any engineer who says "meh"

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Do you get paid for the amount of hours you are at work? Or is it a fixed rate for the amount of projects you complete?
 
Originally posted by: InstincT
Do you get paid for the amount of hours you are at work? Or is it a fixed rate for the amount of projects you complete?


I get paid salary... so hours are inconsequential... My company bills in blocks of hours. So yeah my company bills for 40 hours a week. I do make sure I put in my 40 hours... although typically a significant portion of that time I spend here on ATOT because there are "dependencies" and you other govt. contractors know what I mean.

-Max
 
Depends on the job. If you are a cashier, or you work shifts like police, physician, or you are an airline pilot you obviously cannot be late, and it's unacceptable. If you are in different professions like attorney (just don't be late for court), software engineer, etc. it really doesn't matter as much. I'm late for work at the moment only once/month, though with my last job of the five of us I'd say only one was ever at work on time. It didn't matter... a few minutes here and there didn't matter for us or our bosses.
 
All jobs vary. For me I only have to be on time for new installs. Otherwise I just have to meet my job requirements.
 
eh, im a network admin and im here between 8-8:15. i get like 20 minutes into lunch if im lucky before someone bugs me about computer problems, so i have no problem coming in a tad late and leaving at 5
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Depends on the job. If you are a cashier, or you work shifts like police, physician, or you are an airline pilot you obviously cannot be late, and it's unacceptable. If you are in different professions like attorney (just don't be late for court), software engineer, etc. it really doesn't matter as much. I'm late for work at the moment only once/month, though with my last job of the five of us I'd say only one was ever at work on time. It didn't matter... a few minutes here and there didn't matter for us or our bosses.

QFT.

If your job involves you being there at a particular time for a certain task (and bank teller is one of them), you should expect that someone is keeping an eye on when you show up and when you leave.

An engineer has a different set of deadlines, and obviously sitting at your desk at a certain time in the day isn't as important as getting the work done, as long as you're meeting your final project deadlines.
 
I have a friend that was fired because he didn't provide "good relief". (minds out of the gutter please. 😉)

He'd be scheduled to work at 8am, but would be expected to be there and start working at 7am, to relieve the guy working the shift before him, allowing for some overlap and so the guy finishing his shift, time to clean up before punching out for the day.

This was at a 24/7/365 plant.

So he'd show up at 8am, his scheduled start time, and be in trouble for being "late".

He and I never understood why they just didn't schedule it the way they wanted it.

- TK
 
It does depend on your role/tasks at your current job. To me, there is no real excuse for being late (more than 10 minutes). If you are late, a simple phone call notifying me you'll be late is the wise thing to do. Bottom line is- People whom are consistently late show lack of responsibilty- hence they get canned at my workplace. I'll have a replacement ready with 2 days.



 
ndee, you're darn right I'm serious. If you're "late" then chances are you've got a set time that the uppers would like you in. If everyone else is in prior to that time and you mosey in past it all the time, people start to get pissed off... If its an irregular occurance, then it's probably not a big deal, but the OP is talking like he's so lackadaisical that "it just doesnt matter". It does matter. And the arguement that "Well I get my work done" doesnt cut it. If you're late, that's time you could have spent working on other projects... or neffing.
 
That's how I always am... sometimes on time but usually show up 10-15 mins late, no one really cares, and I agree as long as things get done it shouldn't matter.
 
The way I see it is this:

If you are in a position that requires you to be available for service. You need to be there on time. No questions asked. If you're not available, the business doesn't work.

If you're not in a service role, like a software engineer, etc, you are still expected to be available during business hours. In a situation like this, 15 minutes here or there isn't an issue. Got an appointment and can't be in till noon? Fine, just make sure you keep caught up.

It does reflect poorly on you if you are always late, always gone early, or generally just not available. In positions like this you are part of a team and you're still expected to be around to help your team if you're needed.
 
Originally posted by: Modeps
ndee, you're darn right I'm serious. If you're "late" then chances are you've got a set time that the uppers would like you in. If everyone else is in prior to that time and you mosey in past it all the time, people start to get pissed off... If its an irregular occurance, then it's probably not a big deal, but the OP is talking like he's so lackadaisical that "it just doesnt matter". It does matter. And the arguement that "Well I get my work done" doesnt cut it. If you're late, that's time you could have spent working on other projects... or neffing.

it all depends on the job and I think we agree there 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Stefan
The way I see it is this:

If you are in a position that requires you to be available for service. You need to be there on time. No questions asked. If you're not available, the business doesn't work.

If you're not in a service role, like a software engineer, etc, you are still expected to be available during business hours. In a situation like this, 15 minutes here or there isn't an issue. Got an appointment and can't be in till noon? Fine, just make sure you keep caught up.

It does reflect poorly on you if you are always late, always gone early, or generally just not available. In positions like this you are part of a team and you're still expected to be around to help your team if you're needed.

According to my experience, that doesn't go hand in hand very often. The software engineers like to work during the non-business-hours so they don't get bugged too often so they come-late-leave-late.
 
depends

i can understand why it's important for a teller... i mean, if he's not there, then that's a longer line of customers waiting to be serviced
 
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: Stefan
The way I see it is this:

If you are in a position that requires you to be available for service. You need to be there on time. No questions asked. If you're not available, the business doesn't work.

If you're not in a service role, like a software engineer, etc, you are still expected to be available during business hours. In a situation like this, 15 minutes here or there isn't an issue. Got an appointment and can't be in till noon? Fine, just make sure you keep caught up.

It does reflect poorly on you if you are always late, always gone early, or generally just not available. In positions like this you are part of a team and you're still expected to be around to help your team if you're needed.

According to my experience, that doesn't go hand in hand very often. The software engineers like to work during the non-business-hours so they don't get bugged too often so they come-late-leave-late.

Well I think that's a special exception that would probably need to be worked out with the boss. If it's going to help productivity, they certainly shouldn't be an issue. At least not to me. Each situation needs to be addressed on a case to case basis.
 
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