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Does apple deliberately slow down all but the latest iphone with every ios update?

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zaza

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So that your phone becomes sluggish, lags, stutters, and overheats, so they'll force you to buy their newest iphone? Is this also the reason that when you update to a new ios version they not only slow your phone down but also make it very difficult or impossible to revert to an older version?

Also another question, was this already happening when steve jobs was head honcho or did it only start after he was gone?

Apple are some shady mofos
If this is true how do they get away with it? Cause it's illegal as far as I know
 
zaza said:
So that your phone becones sluggish, lags, and stutters, so they'll force you to buy their newest iphone? Is this also the reason that when you update to a new ios version they not only slow your phone down but also make it very difficult or impossible to revert to an older version?

Also another question, was this alreafy happening when steve jobs was head honcho or did it only start after he was gone?

Apple are some shady mofos
If this is true how do they get away with it? Cause it's illegal as far as I know
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Baloney, ios 9 works like a champ on my iphone 5. Do you have a 4 or 4s? I'd say that the 4 has been updated than any android phone, ever, so maybe it's time to move on?
 
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All operating systems get more bloated with every new revision. The problem with ioS is that you cant configure it in any meaningful way. You're just stuck with the bloat. At least on windows and rooted android you can hack into the services and disable some of them to make it faster. There is always useless functionality that can and should be disabled when it starts to affect performance.
 
zaza said:
Most iphone users disagree with you.
There's also scientific data about it.
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There is also scientific data about the correlation between users with low post counts and troll posts. Science is neat!

-KeithP
 
sm625 said:
All operating systems get more bloated with every new revision. The problem with ioS is that you cant configure it in any meaningful way. You're just stuck with the bloat. At least on windows and rooted android you can hack into the services and disable some of them to make it faster. There is always useless functionality that can and should be disabled when it starts to affect performance.
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Actually if you ugrade your android version on an older phone it'll get faster.

And what "bloat" and "new features" are you referring to? The only new features older iphones get with ios updates are lag and stutter.
 
No, it's not a conspiracy. Rather, it's a reflection of how Apple has typically approached iOS versioning: until lately, it designed operating systems for recent hardware and trimmed things down until the older hardware could run it. Needless to say, that means the OS really wasn't optimized for someone's 3-year-old iPhone.

iOS 9 definitely isn't smooth as glass on older gear, but my understanding is that Apple has taken a more holistic approach (where it's accounting for older devices from the start) than it has in the past.
 
I just bought an iPhone 6s ONLY because I had physically abused my iPhone 5 so much over the years that it finally gave up the ghost after 3years of ownership. It ran like a champ right up till it (hardware) stopped working.

iOS9 seemed like an improvement. My wife iPhone 5 is still working well. She does not abuse the hardware the way I do and it has only required a battery change ($35). I'm confident she will make it to an iPhone 7/7S if not further.
 
Commodus said:
No, it's not a conspiracy. Rather, it's a reflection of how Apple has typically approached iOS versioning: until lately, it designed operating systems for recent hardware and trimmed things down until the older hardware could run it. Needless to say, that means the OS really wasn't optimized for someone's 3-year-old iPhone.

iOS 9 definitely isn't smooth as glass on older gear, but my understanding is that Apple has taken a more holistic approach (where it's accounting for older devices from the start) than it has in the past.
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Even if it is just an unavoidable and unintended result of OS updates (which I really doubt) do you think that makes it ok for people's hard bought iphones to become slow to the point of being unusable just one year after their release?

And do you also think it's unavoidable and unintended for apple to make it impossible for anyone to revert to previous ios versions?
 
zaza said:
Even if it is just an unavoidable and unintended result of OS updates (which I really doubt) do you think that makes it ok for people's hard bought iphones to become slow to the point of being unusable just one year after their release?

And do you also think it's unavoidable and unintended for apple to make it impossible for anyone to revert to previous ios versions?
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Well, I've never seen an iPhone become "unusable" after getting the iOS update a year following its release (and I've been buying iPhones since the 3G), so that's kind of a moot point.

Yes, it's entirely intentional that you can't revert to previous versions, and I wouldn't expect Apple to do otherwise. Allowing people to revert opens them up to security vulnerabilities and bugs that have been fixed in newer releases. Apple should make sure that you want to run the newer OS, of course, but that's usually the only real issue. And don't bring up jailbreaking as an argument -- jailbreaking by definition is based on exploiting vulnerabilities and compromising the phone's security.
 
I hate the idea of defending Apple, but what exactly do people expect? For all intents and purposes, they're supporting 3+ year old devices. Does anyone else even do that? Hell, some of the OEMs don't even seem to offer support right after you buy the damn thing.

I guess I'm a little confused that someone can't find $200 to get their new iphone after having their 4s for 4 years.
 
Back when iOS 4 came out, it all but bricked my iPhone 3G. I'm not exaggerating when I say it was so slow, you could barely make a basic phone call. Fortunately that was before they started signing updates, so you could still downgrade. I was stuck on a 3yr contract at the time, so I would have had to buy a replacement out of pocket. I very nearly switched to Android after that mess. The 4S worked out better though.

Apple actually got sued after the iOS 4 fiasco and eventually released a patch to improve performance. I guess because of the way US phone contracts worked, every handset manufacturer figured 2 years support was enough. Tablets threw a wrench in that.
 
mmntech said:
Back when iOS 4 came out, it all but bricked my iPhone 3G. I'm not exaggerating when I say it was so slow, you could barely make a basic phone call. Fortunately that was before they started signing updates, so you could still downgrade. I was stuck on a 3yr contract at the time, so I would have had to buy a replacement out of pocket. I very nearly switched to Android after that mess. The 4S worked out better though.

Apple actually got sued after the iOS 4 fiasco and eventually released a patch to improve performance. I guess because of the way US phone contracts worked, every handset manufacturer figured 2 years support was enough. Tablets threw a wrench in that.
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Yeah... iOS 4 basically bricked my iPhone 3G as well. That pissed me off enough to switch to Android for awhile, but then Samsung/Verizon basically did the same thing to me with a bad Android update to my Galaxy S3.

Now I'm back to using Apple because I'm sick of the Android phone manufacturers mucking up my phone with bloatware. I now also know better than to click that Upgrade button on new OS update notifications before waiting a week and making sure that it doesn't have major bugs.
 
openwheel said:
The answer is: "Of Course".

The 5 is a bit better, but the 4 and 4S were horrendous after updates.
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Since we're talking about deliberately slowing down old devices on purpose...

The iPhone 4S is a FOUR (say that again, F-O-U-R) year old device with 512 (say that one more time, FIVE-HUNDRED-and-TWELVE) MB of RAM, and it STILL runs the latest version of iOS well enough to be usable. And if you go to settings, reduce transparency and reduce motion, it's smooth as butter.

Go, find an Android device with those specs that can do that. Or any other device for that matter.
 
JAG87 said:
Since we're talking about deliberately slowing down old devices on purpose...

The iPhone 4S is a FOUR (say that again, F-O-U-R) year old device with 512 (say that one more time, FIVE-HUNDRED-and-TWELVE) MB of RAM, and it STILL runs the latest version of iOS well enough to be usable. And if you go to settings, reduce transparency and reduce motion, it's smooth as butter.

Go, find an Android device with those specs that can do that. Or any other device for that matter.
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Thanks for the tip. Still using a 4s as my plan is 3g only and rarely ever use data...at least no more than 12MB lol.
 
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