Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
Haha funny OP, aren't you the one who was literally crying over Batman Begins and how it was a trashy movie or something? I remember you individually responding to every single remark against you while looking like a complete ass, but OK, it's one of the silliest concepts of human nature. =/
I am the one who posted that my opinion of Dark Knight is not good. Some people seemed to be offended by my supposition that anyone CAPABLE of being entertained by such a film does not posses a set of critical intellectual skills that I can hold any respect for.
What was I offended by?
I can tell you right now that I am not in the least bit concerned with anyone's thoughts here. If someone does not like me, it's no skin off my back. So in this instance how could I possibly be offended by anything anyone said to me in that thread? I only responded to fire with gasoline. If anything I invited every one of those remarks, and it's not as if they were unexpected responses, so again I fail to see how I was offended.
You seem to want to turn this into pot calling the kettle black situation, but there is no animosity on my side of the fence, so your logic is faulty. Did you like Dark Knight?
So you get a rise out of controlling people, and you suppress basic instinct so no one can challenge you on it. Offense isn't cultural. Alligators take offense if someone impedes on their territory. It's instinctual. If I kicked you in the nuts right now, would you be offended? Anyone who's human would, otherwise I could just kick your nuts to mush and you wouldn't even react.
I'm not talking about assaulted. That is a physical thing. I'm talking about offended. That is SOLELY an emotional thing. Believe me, if you come kick me in the nuts, I will NOT be offended, but I will be pissed!
Next slippery slope please!
P.S. I do not control anyone but me, and no one can control me but me. The same holds true for you. I do not attempt the impossible, so you are wrong in your assumption.
Since when is pissed != offended?
See my post about offense being a heightened form of instinct. The only difference between emotional offense and physical assault is the imminence and magnitude of the threat.
So your argument is that if the magnitude of the threat is only emotional, it should be ignored and you shouldn't care. Which is stupid. You can't suppress emotion forever. If I get someone you care about to come to your house and stand over your shoulder and berate you every day, I can guarantee that you will eventually get offended. Assuming they don't physically obstruct your path or progress, the threat would be entirely emotional.
As for your PS, then why did you ask "did you enjoy The Dark Knight?". The only way I can possibly interpret that is an attempt to goad MYF into responding about it. That's control. It's how politics work and have worked for some time.
I also just controlled you. I was pretty sure based on what I've seen in this thread that you'd respond to my accusation; and look, you just attempted to justify yourself to me. Why would you do that unless you cared about what I thought; and why would you care about what I think if you don't take offense?
OK, I'll be more clear on the definition of offended I am using. Offended: becoming ANGRY at something someone says or does which contains no physical threat to the party being offended. i.e. Someone calls you a d-bag.
Where is the "threat" in that. That is my WHOLE POINT.
You say it comes from instinct. I agree. However we humans have many instincts which we are proscribed from putting into action, and which we have overcome with logic and reason. Not suppressed however, rather overcome due to frame of reference.
Example: You are having a terriffic day. You come in to McDonalds where I work and order a coffee. I call you a D-bag and tell you you ain't getting no stinking coffee, and to hit the bricks. Unfazed you leave for Burger King.
Same scenario, but you are having a lousy day. You instantly become angry and demand to speak to the manager.
Same stimuli, different reaction based on YOUR mood. There are myriad reasons you may choose to get angry or not, but the point is the same; the only difference in both scenarios is your attitude.
I do not agree with your assumption about me getting angry in your example. My frame of reference for this type of scenario wouldn't allow me to be angry. I would choose to be concerned for several reasons, and I would probably take action, but I would never be offended at someone saying anything to me.
The movie thing was simply my witty way of telling you I don't agree with your logic in that post. If you felt compelled to take any action due to it (like replying), that's your choice. Control... no. I may be able to predict an average response, but never a specific response. You could have responded to that in many ways, so I have no hope of control. It was not my intention.
I am responding to you for two reasons: 1. You are replying thoughtfully and actually addressing the issues I had hoped to address here. 2. This is my thread. I posed the question. This is something I wanted to discuss. It interests me. Replying to you keeps that conversation moving forward.
Just like above, being able to predict a response is not the same thing as dictating (controlling) one.