Does anyone work a 40 hour week anymore? especially in IT?

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Gunslinger08

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
It depends.....

If you are there just to work and get a paycheck, then yeah, 40 hours a week is doable. Just do not expect to be noticed.

However, if you want to make a career out of your job, then the 40 hr work week is dead.

So, answer this question, you want a career or a job?

Neither, I want a life.
 

hasu

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I say "as an excuse" because I see the company financial statements, and things are nowhere near as bad as they're being made out to be
Wasn't it supposed to be made for that?
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
It depends.....

If you are there just to work and get a paycheck, then yeah, 40 hours a week is doable. Just do not expect to be noticed.

However, if you want to make a career out of your job, then the 40 hr work week is dead.

So, answer this question, you want a career or a job?

thats a fucking lie. The first people to get cut here were those who made a career and were there 20-30-40 years. again.....a major FUCK THAT.
 
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Originally posted by: skim milk
pff that's nothing
I'm looking to jump to asset management, expected work week = 70-75hr

so does that mean even less time for you to try to get pussy?
or did that not matter either way.
;)
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Gibson486
It depends.....

If you are there just to work and get a paycheck, then yeah, 40 hours a week is doable. Just do not expect to be noticed.

However, if you want to make a career out of your job, then the 40 hr work week is dead.

So, answer this question, you want a career or a job?

thats a fucking lie. The first people to get cut here were those who made a career and were there 20-30-40 years. again.....a major FUCK THAT.

If they were at one company for atleast 20 years, it's their fault. Your career is what you make of it and if your career consisted of you staying at one company without even testing waters somewhere else, then you were simply there for the job.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Gibson486
It depends.....

If you are there just to work and get a paycheck, then yeah, 40 hours a week is doable. Just do not expect to be noticed.

However, if you want to make a career out of your job, then the 40 hr work week is dead.

So, answer this question, you want a career or a job?

thats a fucking lie. The first people to get cut here were those who made a career and were there 20-30-40 years. again.....a major FUCK THAT.

If they were at one company for atleast 20 years, it's their fault. Your career is what you make of it and if your career consisted of you staying at one company without even testing waters somewhere else, then you were simply there for the job.

Bullshit, that's the way things are now, not 20 years ago. With that amount of time and energy and, yes, allegiance invested, do you really expect those people to switch companies just for new experience? It is our definition of career that has changed not the people working.
 

Special K

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
It depends.....

If you are there just to work and get a paycheck, then yeah, 40 hours a week is doable. Just do not expect to be noticed.

However, if you want to make a career out of your job, then the 40 hr work week is dead.

So, answer this question, you want a career or a job?

How many hours a week are YOU willing to put into your job?

Also hours worked per week matters very little when the company can cut you at a moment's notice.
 

rivan

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Jul 8, 2003
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8:30 - 5:30, hourly, not IT.

I won't be a salaried slave again if I can help it. The moment you go salary respect for your time goes out the f*ing window.
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: rivan
8:30 - 5:30, hourly, not IT.

I won't be a salaried slave again if I can help it. The moment you go salary respect for your time goes out the f*ing window.

Obviously depends on the company/managers. Any time I get a call to work on something in the middle of the night, or have to put in a couple extra hours, I get time off to offset it. It appears some managers are interested in keeping their people around :p
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: Gibson486
It depends.....

If you are there just to work and get a paycheck, then yeah, 40 hours a week is doable. Just do not expect to be noticed.

However, if you want to make a career out of your job, then the 40 hr work week is dead.

So, answer this question, you want a career or a job?

How many hours a week are YOU willing to put into your job?

Also hours worked per week matters very little when the company can cut you at a moment's notice.

You have a good point....it's how many hours you need to put in. However, in certain industries, 50 hrs in the norm (CPA, Consultant) for a pay of 40 hours.

As for me, I am at the point where I really just want to leave my job. When I started it, I wanted to make a career of it. The pay would end up great, the job is not too hard, and I get to get out of the office now and then. now it's meh. 40 Hr work week? No way. I have to stay utilized for a certain precentage of my 40 hours (something like 85%). Infact, i had to work this week end in preperation for another project. Does not seem tough, right? Wrong....realize this...meetings that are not part of a project that have been opened...non billable. If I have 5 hours worth of meetings in a week for a project that is in the proposal mode, I am already in danger of missing my utilization goal. I have to compensate hours somewhere along the line to make sure my utilization target is not missed. So i worked 40 hours, but only 25 was billable....guess what...I have to work more to bring my utilization up to 85%. I have to work 11 more hours just to meet my goal. This is the life of a consultant....it blows!

You may say, "Well, you chose to become a consultant, that was your career choice"! Nope. Wrong. While other professions with salary do not have utilization, you still need to have the attitude of my work day ends when the job is complete and everybody is happy. If you want to make a career out of your job, you can't just stick to the 40 hr routine. You have put in as many hours as you need to put in and lots of times, that means working during your free time.
 

coloumb

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I have a 40 hour work week [well..I get paid for 40 hours, I probably only do about 15-20 hours on average of REAL work per week - pager duty ftw!]

Everyone that I know who is a manager has a 50+ hour work week - no way in hell I'd ever want to be in management. :)
 

Special K

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
You may say, "Well, you chose to become a consultant, that was your career choice"! Nope. Wrong. While other professions with salary do not have utilization, you still need to have the attitude of my work day ends when the job is complete and everybody is happy. If you want to make a career out of your job, you can't just stick to the 40 hr routine. You have put in as many hours as you need to put in and lots of times, that means working during your free time.

Right, and I'm saying that attitude isn't even worth much given that the company would still cut you in a moment's notice if it would benefit them in some way.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: Gibson486
You may say, "Well, you chose to become a consultant, that was your career choice"! Nope. Wrong. While other professions with salary do not have utilization, you still need to have the attitude of my work day ends when the job is complete and everybody is happy. If you want to make a career out of your job, you can't just stick to the 40 hr routine. You have put in as many hours as you need to put in and lots of times, that means working during your free time.

Right, and I'm saying that attitude isn't even worth much given that the company would still cut you in a moment's notice if it would benefit them in some way.

oh definately....but company loyalty no longer exists...so it comes back to them.
 

XZeroII

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I work 40 hours. Sometimes a couple more, but generally not. I do software consulting/software development.
 

Phokus

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ahahaha, people actually expect employers not to ride them like horses
 

SilentZero

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In IT and work 37.5 hours normally, but on occassion with deadlines and such (a few small 3 weeks periods) I put in 60+.
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: Soybomb
The interview before that I asked the supervisor for that position what the average day would be like and was told "in this department we look at the work day as time to have meetings and then get our work done when we get home." Gee that sounds wonderful.
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That's BS. Meetings shouldn't take an entire 8 to 9 hour day. If they are, you need an agenda and you have to stick with it. Send your supervisor to a Toastmaster's Meeting. I do my work at work, home time is my time.
 

Insomniator

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8:30 - 4:30 for me in IT. Actually, closer to 9 - 4 with an hour and a half lunch but hey, who's counting?
 

Chaotic42

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I'm not in IT, but I work 40 hours almost every week. I work more when we have a delivery, but I don't really mind. Failure to deliver as expected is a much more bitter pill to swallow than a few extra hours at work.