Does anyone use AA?

spanky

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becuz i noticed AA murders performance in CS at any resolution. i have a radeon 8500, and i could be playing @ 800x600... performance is raped. the fps says maybe 50... but the picture is very choppy. same thing with my voodoo5... fps reports decent, but gameplay is choppy as hell. so this leads me to wonder, does anyone use AA in any game? if so, is your performance raped? and what video card are you using?
 

Cruze8

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hell no I never use aa on my geforce 2 gts.... even if I had a better card I wouldnt use aa... hell in 1280x1024 who even really needs it??? plus the performance hit is way to great... I'd rather see a few jaggies and have blazing speed then no jaggies and a slide show
 

BlvdKing

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I don't. I can't stand the FPS hit. I would rather play at a higher resolution anyways.
 

AA0

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only 50fps on cs on a 8500? I use AA on my 8500 in wolfenstein and hit over 100fps.
 

spanky

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<< only 50fps on cs on a 8500? I use AA on my 8500 in wolfenstein and hit over 100fps. >>



yeah... i don't remember the exact number, but it was decent... but it was very choppy. btw, what OS r u using and which drivers? i am using the latest beta's from rage3d.com
 

THUGSROOK

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high res and no AA here :)

if you see jaggies, you aint moving fast enough!

(its great for screenshots tho) ;)
 

AA0

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both winxp and win98 have worked similar for performance. Except the winxp load time absolutely sucks. I've joined matches when they've already been finished
 

jiffylube1024

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Nope I don't use AA. I'd rather getting the highest FPS I can: there's more to fall back on in case of a massive slowdown.
 

Rand

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Looks like I'm going to be the first one besides AAO to buck the trend here. I love FSAA, and use it about 80% of the time.

Sure, you take a hefty performance hit... but as long as it's still playable I really don't give a damn how much of a performance hit it takes.
Besides that I have a handful of older games.... like FreeSpace 2, Thief 1/2, Might and Magic VI etc that I still enjoy.

In games like those I can often enable 2X FSAA with a minimal performance hit, and can manage 4X FSAA at pretty decent frame rates.
Plus FSAA can have a HUGE impact in a lot of RPG's, and since I'm big on RPG's it works out great for me.
Might and Magic VI with 4X FSAA enabled looks like an entirely different game.

RPG's arent terribly intensive on the graphics card so I can often enable 4X FSAA even in more recent RPG's and it really helps out.
Besides that I seldom play anything else besides Sports games, and those I can usually pull off reasonably decent frame rates w/2X FSAA... it doesnt help too much in fast paced games like NHL2002, but in games High Heat BaseBall 2002 it helps out quite a bit.

For the game genres I play FSAA can often make a huge difference. FSAA capabilities are among the more important aspects to me in a graphics card.
 

cmaMath13

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I do now! I wanted to use it when I had a V5 5500, but it didn't give me good enough fps. Now with the GeForce4 4600 I can have the best of both world (image quality and fps).
 

BFG10K

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No, I never use FSAA. Higher resolution is always better because it corrects everything FSAA does while sharpening the image instead of blurring it. Also it improves other things such as rendering accuracy at long distances.

The only time I could envisage using FSAA is in a game stuck at 640 x 480 or something.
 

Jeff7

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On my GF2 Pro, I ran 800x600 with 4xFSAA. With my GF2 Ti, I'm using 1024x768 with 4xFSAA.
 

nealh

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when I had my V5 5500 I played Deus EX at 1024x768 with FSAA on without a hitch..

with my Radeon I would use 2x FSAA in most games and could see little performance hit...In RTCW and MOHAA therre was agreater hit..esp MOH..I turned it off since therre are alot of quality options to improve the image...
 

sandorski

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I use it as much as I can. If 4x is too much, I use 2x. UT, Q3, NFS PU, Sports Car GT, RTCW, Half Life mods(CS, DoD, DMC), and every other 3d game I play. Jaggies are horid, especially if you are trying to snipe at long distances.
 

vedin

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I use it in any game that doesn't cause my frame rate to go below 60(if it's a FPS), or 40(if it's a racing game). I'd use 4X at 1600x1200 if I could but seeing as my video card, and monitor for that matter, won't allow it, I can't use it often. The only thing I hate worse than jaggies is being able to see triangles that form the game's polygons. :p
 

spanky

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actually... i just tweaked my display settings and i find that 2x AA gives me good performance. on my radeon 8500... i have AA set 2x and anisotrophic filtering set to 16x. looks great... feels great. happy camper here :D
 

AdamK47

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I use FSAA. Have been since 3dfx turned me on to it with the 5500. I play just about everything at 800x600 with Ati's 5X performance Smoothvision. It's basically 4x supersampling with a subsampling filter. It produces much better image quality than any form of multisampling antialiasing on GeForce 3 and 4 boards since this method deals texture data as well.
 

SolrFlare24

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I use it all the time now. When I had my Voodoo 5 5500 I'd use it on older games where it wouldn't hurt my FPS. Now that I have a GF 4 ti 4600 I just leave 2x fsaa on all the time because it takes almost no performance hit whatsoever. This way I run at 1280x1024 on my 17inch monitor with 2x and I get the best of both worlds.
 

BFG10K

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I typically run high resolutions with anisotropic filtering.

Amen brother. ;)
 

MCS

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Performance issues aside, I have only ever found FSAA useful at 640x480. Since I run at 1024x768 or above, I really don't find that the jaggies bother me or are that noticable.
 

Mem

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I`ve tried it but don`t find FSAA all that great, I prefer higher res and anisotropic filtering even with slower type RPG adventure games where FSAA would be more playable.