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Yeah, it'll probably cost me ~200 plus my x2 3800, 1 gig and ultra-d to move to the conro E6600, 2 gigs and a new mobo.
 
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Originally posted by: Cooler
Currently on the sample Conroes max oc has been 4.5 GHz on extreme cooling and 3.5-3.6 on air. Note that Conroe does not have a ?Cold bug" and current Super PI Score is 11.3~ secs on 4.5 GHz monster. When retail Conroes and Mobos come out 5 GHz should be possible. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=100587
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No doubt Conroe can be a monster, if you got the funds. But for most working folks, this is more indicative of the real world gains: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5692

For myself, I will be waiting until Q1 07' when the 65nm AM2 are out, at which time prices should drop more on Conroe, then I'll make my decision. But the performance on either platform has to resoundlingly beat a 3.0GHz Opty 165 ;)

 
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Those wattages that were posted (65W and 95W) I assume refer to idle, what will the power drain be loaded?
 
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E6600/6700 already beat the AMD flagship FX-62 in almost ALL the becnhmarks for half the price or less.

Couple of months ahead of us are going to be very interesting indeed, espiecally when conroe beats AMD in its own turf i.e the gaming arena.

The XE editions of the core2 duo might actually be worth its cost. (Espiecally the 3.3ghz 1333FSB core 2 XE monster thats going to be released sometime later this year)

 
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Originally posted by: UncivilizedAMD
those wattages don't refer to idle, they refer to Thermal Design Point
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So the 65w is how much heat dissipates, not power consumption?
 
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Originally posted by: check
Originally posted by: UncivilizedAMD
those wattages don't refer to idle, they refer to Thermal Design Point
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So the 65w is how much heat dissipates, not power consumption?
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The literature seems to treat these two things as the same.
 
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hey is this conroe
E4200 1.60GHz 2MB 0800MHz 65W Q4 $169

single or dual core ?
i think i'll get this one and OC the hell out of it. (if its dual core only. other wise my opty 165 is morethan enough)
 
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Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
hey is this conroe
E4200 1.60GHz 2MB 0800MHz 65W Q4 $169

single or dual core ?
i think i'll get this one and OC the hell out of it. (if its dual core only. other wise my opty 165 is morethan enough)
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Dual
 
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TanisHalfElven

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Originally posted by: pcoffman
Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
hey is this conroe
E4200 1.60GHz 2MB 0800MHz 65W Q4 $169

single or dual core ?
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Hint. It's called Core 2 Duo.
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it not called core 2 duo anywhere here. i thought this one mioght be core 2 solo.
hey i couldn't belive a 1.6 GHz dual core will be 169.
 
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Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
it not called core 2 duo anywhere here. i thought this one mioght be core 2 solo.
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Hi

One would think that Intel would come out with a Core 2 Solo. It only seems logical. Plus, with small form factor devices becoming more and more prevalent, one would think that a single Core 2 would be a no brainer. Who knows? Maybe eventually.

However, one of the few things that Intel has said is that Conroe is to be named Core 2 Duo. This suggests two cores throughout the line.

One possible reason why the chip can be so inexpensive is that it is manufactured on Intel's 65nm process technology. This allows them to get alot on a very small die, including two cores.

All the best

 
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Originally posted by: pcoffman
Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
it not called core 2 duo anywhere here. i thought this one mioght be core 2 solo.
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Hi

One would think that Intel would come out with a Core 2 Solo. It only seems logical. Plus, with small form factor devices becoming more and more prevalent, one would think that a single Core 2 would be a no brainer. Who knows? Maybe eventually.

However, one of the few things that Intel has said is that Conroe is to be named Core 2 Duo. This suggests two cores throughout the line.

One possible reason why the chip can be so inexpensive is that it is manufactured on Intel's 65nm process technology. This allows them to get alot on a very small die, including two cores.


All the best
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yea the 65 nm means that it'll OC like a demon. even otherwise i am sure if the current predictions hold true it will beat a x2 3800+.
 
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those are ridiculously low prices for the amount of performance they can achieve. now...to ditch the 3200+ or to not ditch...
 
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only problem is building with conroe means a whole new computer. new cpu, new ram, new mobo, might as well get a new gfx and make a new rig rather leave the current rig crippled.
 
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One would think that Intel would come out with a Core 2 Solo ... Who knows? Maybe eventually
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The slide presented in this report shows a "Conroe-L (Single-core)".

It appears to be a low end offering to replace low end Pentium 4 500 series chips and Celerons.

Tentatively scheduled for Q2'07.

 
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Until I'm CPU bottlenecked [which shouldn't be a problem for quite some time] I don't think I'll head to Conroe.

If Vista is pushed back again [Past January] I'll probably grab a 7900GT and voltmod it. [Yay for water.]

If it isn't, I'll ride what I have out 'till then, then dump the system [the RAM will actually be MORE valuable then :p] and upgrade to a decent K8L/Conroe rig.
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apparently, dailytech says that conroeL (which is core 2 solo) is coming out in Q2'07.

damn you pcoffman, you beat me to it! heh heh...

man i just want my E6600, a high-end asus board (either intel or nvidia chipset), and some nice ddr2-800 memory and ill be set.
 
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Originally posted by: check
Originally posted by: UncivilizedAMD
those wattages don't refer to idle, they refer to Thermal Design Point
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So the 65w is how much heat dissipates, not power consumption?
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Sort of...most people use TDP as a power number, but of course they're completely wrong there. TDP is the guideline that the CPU manufacturer gives to OEMs for building cooling solutions.
AMD and Intel have 2 different philosophies on what the number should be (Intel gives TDP as the highest expected temp, and AMD gives the absolute theoretical maximum temp).
However, neither TDPs represent power usage...
The reason everyone quotes TDP as a power number is that it's the only spec they can find that actually has a power symbol in it (e.g. 65w)...it has nothing to do with actual power use, but people would rather quote something that's wrong than nothing at all...:)

The problem is that finding an actual power usage is quite difficult and it changes depending on what app you're running...
Fortunately, the people at Spec.org are currently developing a power usage benchmark that should be out by the end of this year...

Edit: As an interesting example, if Intel or AMD built a CPU that came with it's own phase change cooling built in overclocked it like mad (say a 3.6 GHz FX chip), it would obviously suck up a LOT more power but it's TDP would actually decrease...
 
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