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Sho'Nuff

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:beercheers:Your user name and avatar indicate you have, or at the very least, had, a good sense of humor. Therefore, I will appeal to that.

When the Shogun of Harlem posts content that makes him sound like a little bitch, it is indeed time for that trip to see the doc. Because you are probably suffering from low T.

OMFG - it has been a long time since something on the net actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks :)
 
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BurnItDwn

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I agree there is a lot wrong with how phony the world is and how insane christmas is. Charlie brown is right.

#1, you can try to avoid stores/places of commerce in Late Nov/All of Dec ... will help
#2, the Solstice is real. All the things lxskllr said ....
#3, most people like cash money
#4, People like "giving." It would make sense that people who can not afford to "give" expensive things could instead "give" time to volunteer at their local book banks or soup kitchens. But people get the preconcieved notion that they need to buy some crap for someone else. It's stupid.
#5, Lots of people give time and money to charities.
#6, sorry, that sucks
#7, yes, agree 100%
#8, Yea it can be tough, but it can also be a good excuse to take some down time and get some R&R. Maybe travel out of the country to some place that doesn't make as big of a fuss about it? I bet the Cayman Islands are nice this time of year...
#9, Maybe if you picked out a specific charity you like, and explained why you like them and want to support them. Maybe she will see it as an interest and not just some kind of mind game or "brush off"
 

NetWareHead

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I want to like Christmas, I really do. In fact, it would make my wife deliriously happy if I liked Christmas. But the fact of the matter is, I don't. To the contrary, I pretty much hate the holiday/season/whatever, and everything about it. Outlined below are a few of the reasons I dislike this time of year. Admittedly some are better than others, but at a minimum I think all are at least valid points.

#1 Xmas starts too damn early - it is at the end of December people - it is simply wrong to start playing "white christmas" over and over in stores the day after halloween.

#2 Pretty much everything about the holiday is a giant falsehood. You know what kids, forget what I said about telling the truth because Santa is REAL! Also - that mound of presents is representative of the three gifts some dudes who might have existed long ago might have had. Jesus wasn't really born on December 25 (we conscripted the date of a pagan holiday), but don't worry about that!

#3 It is completely and utterly wasteful. Something like 65% of all Christmas gifts are returned. That means that all the effort that was exerted to obtain those gifts was utterly wasted. Imagine what we might accomplish as a society if we were to focus all that wasted energy into something worth while.

#4. It pushes a lot of people into debt. Don't worry Johnny - mom can't put food on the table or pay the power bill, but we will find a way to get you some presents. Now - wheres that pesky credit card.

#5. People preech peace on earth and goodwill toward men, but most people just think of themselves and their own family at christmas. There are tons of people out there who have almost nothing. But rather than help them out (as Jesus the carpenter would have done), people turn away and focus on buying crap they don't need.

#6 It creates false and unreasonably expectations in many families. Growing up - christmas was horrible for me. My mother had this preconceived notion of how the day should go. When my father, brother, and I didn't make her expectations come to life - she got pissed off and cried. That pretty much happened every year from when I was born to when I moved out of the house at 22.

#7 The friggin music is terrible. It just is. And it is played, WAY too much.

#8. Trying to actually get anything done in the month of December is nearly impossible. Lots of people are on vacation, there are a million parties to go to (I like parties in and of themselves, but not when they just expose me to more xmas crap).

#9 My wife gets pissed at me because she wants to buy me a gift and I won't give her any ideas because I hate the holiday for at least reasons 1-8 above. And she gets flabbergasted when I tell her to make a donation on my behalf to a local charity. "Who doesn't like presents" she says. Well - I don't. Sorry. I don't need anything, and anything I want I can buy myself.

Etc.

Anyone else feel this way? I have been able to conceal how I feel in past years, but this year I haven't done such a good job of that. Partly every time I go into a store nowadays I feel like I want to tear my eyes out.

#1. Halloween? Lucky you. While I acknowledge that halloween is early, the home depot, lowes & sears around here put their xmas trees and inflatable stupid decorations out in september!

#3. I hate giving gifts for this reason. I agoonize and feel clueless over what to get people for xmas presents. Its gotten easier with my wife. Living with someone 24/7, you tend to communicate alot more and I end up knowing and having a good picture of what she wants/likes. She is actually the easiest to shop for. But wtf do I get my sister? My in-laws? My retired father who has everythign he needs and wants nothing? Little kids in my family who have a trillion toys, junk, bullshit and hordes of other trinkets? The pragmatic side of me revolts against all of this, spending so much time selecting and then money to buy the present so it can end up in a dusty closet corner. And ultimately thrown away or donated to goodwill.

7. I can stand the music in small doses. Its when Im shopping and have to spend hours in a mall, waiting in a doctor's office etc... the 8th time I hear jingle bells makes me want to choke somebody with a string of xmas lights.

#8, agreed. Try going to a shopping mall for one thing on a december weekend. It sucks. 30 min to find parking.

#9. I tried to get some of my family onboard with the idea "we just wont exchange gifts" and that failed miserably. My sister pissed me off. Agreeing to not exchange gifts, she gets me something anyway. So I look the fool opening her gift and I got her nothing. When I ask her "wtf did we agree to?!" she says "oh it was something small and I found it last minute"
 

IronWing

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#9. I tried to get some of my family onboard with the idea "we just wont exchange gifts" and that failed miserably. My sister pissed me off. Agreeing to not exchange gifts, she gets me something anyway. So I look the fool opening her gift and I got her nothing. When I ask her "wtf did we agree to?!" she says "oh it was something small and I found it last minute"
Her choice, don't sweat it. Reciprocity is not an obligation.
 
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NetWareHead

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To the contrary, my wife's family is about as close as a family can get. There are a couple of iffy people, but its clear that everyone in her family loves each other and would do anything for one another. As a result, the holiday season for them is filled with happy events spent together, laughing, etc. I really wish I could get into that spirit and just feed off of it . . . and for a time I could. But as I have gotten older my reaction to those events has become increasingly dark. To the point that I want almost nothing to do with them. All those events do is remind me of how my experiences growing up were not that way, and how my own family is opposite to my wife's family. I know the way I feel is rooted in selfishness and I should be able to just get over it. But (frustratingly) I just can't seem to move past it. Now I am just trying to insulate my kids from my own feelings so that they don't grow up to feel the same way. I'd rather they think I was happy and grow up normal, than know I am not happy and feel like it was somehow their fault or their responsibility to fix it.

I wanted to take a moment and highlight this specific portion of your reply. Sorry about your self described dysfunctional family. But your inlaws and wife's family sound very nice. It sounds like this si exactly what you need, positivity and feeling good when you are around them. Dont make your mother's feelings and holiday ruin carry forward in to you. You can break the cycle and be happy with your wife's side.

You cant go back in time and change the past but everyday is a new day. Just like every new holiday season is also new. You cant forget the bad holidays you had but you have 2 choices from this point. Dwell on the bad and make everything going forward bad, staying gloomy while you focus on the bad memories. Or give thanks that you have the ability to interact with loving people who give you the opportunity to experience a holiday season filled with happy events and be part of a loving family where everyone loves one another and would do anything for one another. (I'm quoting your description). You have a gift in your wife's family and something vastly different from the holidays you grew up with. Lucky you! Dont squander it and please enjoy your time with those people. Our time on earth is short, use it wisely. Good luck man!
 

snoopy7548

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As a kid I absolutely loved Christmas - getting a ton of cool toys and video games, no school for a couple of weeks, snow, cutting down a tree, decorations, you get to hang out with your extended family for a day, all that crap. It was my favorite holiday, right beside Halloween.

But as I've gotten older, I've realized how crappy it has become or always was. Even making a list of what you would like just seems so tedious (massive first-world problem, I guess), and you just end up getting and giving thoughtless gift cards because you "have" to, though you don't really have the time to go shopping and get a personalized and unique gift for every single family member. And then you have to drive 2.5 hours to visit your parents for a couple of days in crappy traffic (which turns the trip into almost four hours), getting pissed off at everyone on the road, but at least there's tons of food waiting for you at home.

I'm at the point in my life where I really don't care about gifts and I have everything I need. I'd be fine with just not buying or getting gifts; just spend time with everyone and eat a ton of food, like Thanksgiving. Maybe just do fun stocking stuffers if you want to open crap. It's lame how you give a $20 gift card to your brother and you get a $20 gift card in return. Merry freaking Christmas.

Also, there's no more extended family to hang out with (everyone has their own families now), and most immediately family lives too far away to easily visit so it's just me and my parents.

And my neighbors started putting up Christmas decorations before Thanksgiving. I mean seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? I usually wait until the second week of December to put up lights.
 

pete6032

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You sound like you have depression or anxiety about the holidays. All of the negative things you have said about them are factually true to one extent or another, but to let those truths make you "hate" a period of time where we should be reflecting on our lives and feeling thankful for friends and family is not emotionally healthy. I used to hate holidays as well but I learned to put aside those feelings and focus on what really matters - friends, family, hospitality, seeing my family smile when they open a gift I've bought them, seeing kids' eyes light up when they open their gifts, seeing how serene everything looks with Christmas lights, getting time off of work, being grateful for what I have, etc. There are way too many positive things to think about that I can't even begin thinking negative thoughts about the holidays.
 
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Kaido

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It's lame how you give a $20 gift card to your brother and you get a $20 gift card in return.

Hahaha...that's exactly what I did with my brother last year :D Amazon gift cards FTW lol.
 
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My main beef with the holidays is the shopping bullshit. Everyone HAS to get a gift, and it has to be $x at least and have meaning, and blah blah blah.

Picking out clothes for anyone is too fucking hard, so thats out the window. I don't know what you like to wear, how you like to wear it, your size, or any of that shit. Chocolate and wine are boring that says you don't really care.

I decided a while back to be nice to anyone that wants to give me a present because I understand how fucking annoying it is to try and shop for people's gifts. I told them to go to the liquor store, and pick out any single large bottle of beer that is at least $10 and doesn't have the phrase "IPA" on it, and I guarantee I will like it.

If the holidays were only about having dinner with family and drinking booze, I would like it a lot better by taking out the stupid gift part.
 

Stopsignhank

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I am one of those idiots who plays Christmas music at my desk. I only play it loud enough for me to hear in my office. Although today I had to turn the music off. Someone came in to talk to me and it was not real professional to be talking business while "Frosty the Snowman" was playing.
 

Fritzo

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Sorry you're so miserable.

When you deconstruct any holiday, it's going to suck. If you want to enjoy Christmas, you need to build traditions around it. Our family LOVES Christmas because we do special things every year that we've done since our kids were born:

- Whole family is over for Thanksgiving, where we exchange our Christmas lists
- That weekend, we stay at a nice resort town, take in the sites and events, and do some shopping (this year we went to Frankenmuth MI)
- We buy a light-up decoration every year for outside the house. The neighborhood kids love it!
- We find a family or person in need every year and make sure they have a nice Christmas.
- Christmas eve we have a whole-family party and have a great time
- Christmas day I go all out and make the immediate family a fantastic dinner (my Frenched Prime Rib Roast for example)

Experiences during the holidays create happy memories, and that's the drive. If you look at Christmas as "I'm forced to buy a bunch of crap I can't afford for people I don't want to be around and everything is a big inconvenience," OF COURSE you're going to hate it. Change your outlook and use the time to make everyone else as happy as possible. That's when you'll start enjoying yourself.
 

purbeast0

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#6 It creates false and unreasonably expectations in many families. Growing up - christmas was horrible for me. My mother had this preconceived notion of how the day should go. When my father, brother, and I didn't make her expectations come to life - she got pissed off and cried. That pretty much happened every year from when I was born to when I moved out of the house at 22.
I mean that pretty much sums up why you don't like the holiday.

As others have mentioned, it's about spending quality time with family and having great memories. I also love seeing my son and nephews get excited opening gifts. I don't give 2 shits about getting anything myself and my wife and I pretty much don't exchange gifts. In fact, we don't get gifts for anyone other than the kids/nieces/nephews and then our parents. Brothers/Sisters and inlaws don't get anything.

Since you have shitty memories of shitty family times, it's not surprising at all that you don't have fond feelings for the holiday.

I also love me some Xmas movies and watch the same 4 or 5 every year in December.

National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
Elf
Home Alone 1 and 2
Four Christmases
 
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MrSquished

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As I got older Christmas became one giant singles awareness month and a half. If Valentine's day is singles awareness day, Xmas is like singles awareness 45 days. So it sucks when single, and is good when I'm in love and with that person. But I too hate when people start with the Xmas shit before Thanksgiving these days.

This Xmas will be a good one. My gf is just getting her life started up again after a rough year so I won't be getting much of anything from her - I got a customized ornament from her the other day and it was beautiful, and I'll probably get a small gift on the actual day. But I could care less - it will be thoughtful whatever it is, and I'll spend it with her. As it happens I'll be closing on a condo in the next month or so and I'll be buying her an engagement ring in a few weeks so Xmas is coming to me in spades in other ways but even if that were not the case, sharing it with someone would be all I need.
 
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Kaido

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This Xmas will be a good one. My gf is just getting her life started up again after a rough year so I won't be getting much of anything from her - I got a customized ornament from her the other day and it was beautiful, and I'll probably get a small gift on the actual day. But I could care less - it will be thoughtful whatever it is, and I'll spend it with her. As it happens I'll be closing on a condo in the next month or so and I'll be buying her an engagement ring in a few weeks so Xmas is coming to me in spades in other ways but even if that were not the case, sharing it with someone would be all I need.

+ Girlfriend
+ Custom ornament
+ Condo
+ Engagement ring

Sounds like you're having a pretty dang good Christmas so far! :D
 

Jeeebus

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lots of people don't like Christmas. We call them Al Qaeda or Communists. Sowhich is it, Sho' Nuff? Are you a terr'ist or a filthy Rooskie?
 
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MrSquished

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+ Girlfriend
+ Custom ornament
+ Condo
+ Engagement ring

Sounds like you're having a pretty dang good Christmas so far! :D

:D Could be the best one ever besides my pops being very sick. Of course the condo could fall through, a real estate deal is not done until you finish signing but all the obstacles are out of the way as of yesterday and the lender has offered firm commitment/commitment letter. She will say yes whenever I propose, which will be anytime from January through March, whenever the right opportunity arises, so that's good. Losing a few pounds between now and Xmas would be a nice bonus lol

Kaido you would like the one Christmas present I've gotten so far, from my mom who is going back overseas in a week. An All-Clad nonstick frying pan, 12". I'm psyched!
 
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Kaido

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Kaido you would like the one Christmas present I've gotten so far, from my mom who is going back overseas in a week. An All-Clad nonstick frying pan, 12". I'm psyched!

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WelshBloke

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I bloody love Christmas!

There'll be10 people around for Christmas lunch and a bunch more for boxing day!

We don't really do the religious bit and no one is overly invested in presents (apart from the kids!) so itll be all about food, drink and stupid games! :)

Unfortunately I have to work Christmas night and boxing day night but it should be fun at work as well..
 

stargazr

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No. There are negative commercial aspects to it, but I always look forward to it by November.
 

Herr Kutz

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Hahaha...that's exactly what I did with my brother last year :D Amazon gift cards FTW lol.

My brother and I have called a truce for years so we don't wind up wasting money on something the other doesn't want. I don't care too much about Christmas now that it's usually a net loss for me and I only get one day (Christmas) day off. Nothing to look forward to...
 

Chaotic42

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I'm not a fan, but I don't hate it. The only holiday I'd say I hate is Halloween.
 

Chaotic42

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Easter is worse! I dont like holidays that move around! :)
Easter is okay. I really like Mardi Gras, but that doesn't exist where I am now, so meh. I guess my favorite nationally recognized days are Memorial and Independence Day, but I don't really do anything for them either.