Does antimatter weigh more than matter?

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In the lab, the researchers took the first step towards measuring the free fall of "positronium" – a bound state between a positron and an electron. The positron is the antimatter version of the electron. It has identical mass to the electron, but a positive charge. If a positron and electron encounter each other, they annihilate to produce two gamma rays.
Physicists David Cassidy and Allen Mills first separated the positron from the electron in positronium so that this unstable system would resist annihilation long enough for the physicists to measure the effect of gravity on it.
"Using lasers we excited positronium to what is called a Rydberg state, which renders the atom very weakly bound, with the electron and positron being far away from each other," said Cassidy, an assistant project scientist in the Department of Physics and Astronomy, who works in Mills's lab. "This stops them from destroying each other for a while, which means you can do experiments with them."
Rydberg atoms are highly excited atoms. They are interesting to physicists because many of the atoms' properties become exaggerated.
In the case of positronium, Cassidy and Mills, a professor of physics and astronomy, were interested in achieving a long lifetime for the atom in their experiment. At the Rydberg level, positronium's lifetime increases by a factor of 10 to 100.
"But that's not enough for what we're trying to do," Cassidy said. "In the near future we will use a technique that imparts a high angular momentum to Rydberg atoms," Cassidy said. "This makes it more difficult for the atoms to decay, and they might live for up to 10 milliseconds – an increase by a factor of 10,000 – and offer themselves up for closer study."


http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-antimatter-lab.html
 

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I've seen theories that say antimatter repels regular matter - i.e. negative gravity...
 

foghorn67

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What the... is it a 2nd grade trick question?

My post is in quotes. Meaning I did not originate the statement.
Maybe you shouldn't have dropped out of school.
You clearly missed some basics and some culture.

Edit. I took the liberty of misquoting to fit the quote to the post. He was referencing dark matter.
 
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DrPizza

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Here's some math:
http://iopscience.iop.org/0295-5075/94/2/20001/pdf/0295-5075_94_2_20001.pdf


Anyway, it got me to thinking; a bizarre thought that I haven't really fleshed out much yet. Apparently, we know that the universe is primarily matter and not antimatter, else we'd see a lot of signs (gamma rays) of the annihilation of matter/antimatter at borders.

But, suppose matter and antimatter were repulsive gravitationally. Wouldn't an anti-matter galaxy repulse any matter in the vicinity - thus precluding all these annihilations?

Now, I have no way to explain how matter could have "clumped" in separate locations as antimatter. But...

(Minimal thought into this; please comment and destroy this thought. It'll make me feel better to know it can't be possible.)
 

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Here's some math:
http://iopscience.iop.org/0295-5075/94/2/20001/pdf/0295-5075_94_2_20001.pdf


Anyway, it got me to thinking; a bizarre thought that I haven't really fleshed out much yet. Apparently, we know that the universe is primarily matter and not antimatter, else we'd see a lot of signs (gamma rays) of the annihilation of matter/antimatter at borders.

But, suppose matter and antimatter were repulsive gravitationally. Wouldn't an anti-matter galaxy repulse any matter in the vicinity - thus precluding all these annihilations?

Now, I have no way to explain how matter could have "clumped" in separate locations as antimatter. But...

(Minimal thought into this; please comment and destroy this thought. It'll make me feel better to know it can't be possible.)

maybe that's why the universe is expanding - the mutual repulsion of matter and antimatter. There's nothing that says distant galaxies and quasars have to be matter.
 

Gibsons

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Here's some math:
http://iopscience.iop.org/0295-5075/94/2/20001/pdf/0295-5075_94_2_20001.pdf


Anyway, it got me to thinking; a bizarre thought that I haven't really fleshed out much yet. Apparently, we know that the universe is primarily matter and not antimatter, else we'd see a lot of signs (gamma rays) of the annihilation of matter/antimatter at borders.

But, suppose matter and antimatter were repulsive gravitationally. Wouldn't an anti-matter galaxy repulse any matter in the vicinity - thus precluding all these annihilations?

Now, I have no way to explain how matter could have "clumped" in separate locations as antimatter. But...

(Minimal thought into this; please comment and destroy this thought. It'll make me feel better to know it can't be possible.)

Assuming gravitons exist - wouldn't this imply that there are two types of gravitons? The type emitted by antimatter having the opposite effect of the type emitted by matter?
 

DrPizza

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I dunno. Think about electromagnetic forces - sometimes attractive, sometimes repulsive. Are there two types of photons carrying those forces?
 

lxskllr

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Here's some math:
http://iopscience.iop.org/0295-5075/94/2/20001/pdf/0295-5075_94_2_20001.pdf


Anyway, it got me to thinking; a bizarre thought that I haven't really fleshed out much yet. Apparently, we know that the universe is primarily matter and not antimatter, else we'd see a lot of signs (gamma rays) of the annihilation of matter/antimatter at borders.

But, suppose matter and antimatter were repulsive gravitationally. Wouldn't an anti-matter galaxy repulse any matter in the vicinity - thus precluding all these annihilations?

Now, I have no way to explain how matter could have "clumped" in separate locations as antimatter. But...

(Minimal thought into this; please comment and destroy this thought. It'll make me feel better to know it can't be possible.)
AFAIC it's all up for grabs. We don't know nothin' about nothin', and your hypothesis works, but I's extend it even farther to other universes. Who's to say there aren't primarily antimatter universes outside of this one? Ours might be one little bubble in a sea of many.
 

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Antimatter has the same mass as matter. The same set of particles with the same energy ect. Thus, you can construct the same stuff from antimatter as from matter. But all electric charges are opposite.
 

disappoint

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Antimatter has the same mass as matter. The same set of particles with the same energy ect. Thus, you can construct the same stuff from antimatter as from matter. But all electric charges are opposite.

What about for the antineutron? Are the electric charges opposite for that too? Because as every schoolboy knows the neutron has no charge.
 

Fritzo

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An atom says to his friend, "Man, I think I've lost an electron." The friend says "Are you sure?" He answers: "I'm positive!"
 

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An atom says to his friend, "Man, I think I've lost an electron." The friend says "Are you sure?" He answers: "I'm positive!"


A neutron walks in to a bar and asks the bar tender how much for a beer to
witch the bartender replies for you no charge.




A sodium molecule walks into a bar and sees a chlorine molecule sitting at
the end of the bar and goes over and beats him up he get arrested for
A-SALT.


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