Does an ECC compatible I3 exist that can go very fast? Need stupid fast 1 thread ECC

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Emulex

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I'm looking for 1 or 2 threads max (probably 1 thread). ECC memory is a must and overclocking isn't really that hot in the server market.

I heard that I3's might have some ECC support.

I've been out of the OC business for a long time.

So...

Any tips here?

1 thread, no HT or TURBO needed, no power savings, but ECC required.

I can break the bank and get a W series processor but that's not going to scale$$.

Last cpu I overclocked was a Q6600 so give me a break folks :)

Seriously any tips on ECC compliant overclock mad-fast 1 thread small memory (16gb) design?

I've got tons of wide-slow - I need fast 1 thread :)

Thanks!
 
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Emulex said:
I'm looking for 1 or 2 threads max (probably 1 thread). ECC memory is a must and overclocking isn't really that hot in the server market.

I heard that I3's might have some ECC support.

I've been out of the OC business for a long time.

So...

Any tips here?

1 thread, no HT or TURBO needed, no power savings, but ECC required.

I can break the bank and get a W series processor but that's not going to scale$$.

Last cpu I overclocked was a Q6600 so give me a break folks :)

Seriously any tips on ECC compliant overclock mad-fast 1 thread small memory (16gb) design?

I've got tons of wide-slow - I need fast 1 thread :)

Thanks!
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all i3 ivy support ecc memory take your pick
Intel® Core™ i3-3240 Processor
(3M Cache, 3.40 GHz)

thats your faster

Intel® Pentium® Processor G2130
(3M Cache, 3.20 GHz) 200hz less but cheaper
 
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ALIVE

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ALIVE said:
all i3 ivy support ecc memory take your pick
Intel® Core™ i3-3240 Processor
(3M Cache, 3.40 GHz)

thats your faster

Intel® Pentium® Processor G2130
(3M Cache, 3.20 GHz) 200hz less but cheaper
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you still need to pair them with a server chipset like c216 to enable the ecc feauture. Also a bit higher at price there is the e3 xeon line which will come with 8mb cache but prices start at 200$
Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1270 v2
(8M Cache, 3.50 GHz)
Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1275 v2
(8M Cache, 3.50 GHz)
with gpu or without
around 330$
 
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SocketF

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Intel restricts OC. You either get OC or no ECC, both is not possible.

For that you would need AMD, you can buy e.g. a FX6300 for ~$150 and an ASUS M5A99X Evo R2.0 for around the same price. AFAIK that board supports ECC.

That you could overclock to I assume 4.5 Ghz or more, depending on cooling.

But if that would be faster than an i3-3240 with your application .. I dont know, depends. If it is an server-application, then maybe the huge caches of the AMD chip could be an advantage, but as I said, it depends.
 
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The main options:

Intel C216 motherboard combined with Pentium G2130, i3 3220, E3 Xeon

Or

AM3+ motherboard known to support ECC + FX4300/6300

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Intel option is more expensive with no overclocking potential but is supported by the C216 motherboard makers. Populating it with E3 Xeon's adds a bit over $100 per unit but does provide the fastest Intel single thread option due to supporting boost and also means the boxes will be repurposable. Given your every dollar counts dedicated box scenario, I'd get one C216 test board and test out the Pentium vs i3 running your task.

AMD option is all on you for making it work, has OC potential, cheapest overall due to desktop motherboard. Will be even more specialized for your work than a Pentium/i3 boxes due to self-support. If considering this route get a motherboard + ECC + FX-4300. Verify it all works then compare running your task with a module disabled going for max stable clock vs all modules max stable clock. I'd also suggest monitoring power draw while doing your tests, make sure you aren't trading lower initial cost for burdensome operating cost.
 
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Just for info, the faster versions of the E3 have unparalleled single threaded performance.
 
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Vesku said:
If considering this route get a motherboard + ECC + FX-4300.
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There is not much price difference to the 6300, but that model not only has 2 more cores, but also 4MB more L3. I would invest it. L3 is always nice to have ;-) Oh and it *has* to be overclocked, too. AMD's 2.0 GHz L3 clock are a serious bottleneck in some tasks. A friend of mine is running boinc at his FX8320 machine @3.8 Ghz. Now he raised the L3 clock to 2.5 Ghz and the run times of the work units were reduced from 7 hours to 5.5h. Same core clock ... I have to add however, that the specific boinc project is very memory intensive.

crashtech said:
Just for info, the faster versions of the E3 have unparalleled single threaded performance.
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I agree, but they also have an unparalleled price :(

Anybody knows when Haswell's i3 are coming? If I remember correctly the next socket 1150 should be more overclocking friendly. If the next i3s would still keep the ECC support that would be the best option. But I guess that the i3 wont be launched immediately together with the platform.
 
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SocketF said:
I agree, but they also have an unparalleled price :(
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True enough, but the OP didn't state a particular budget so I thought it prudent to help delineate the playing field.

And an E3 two steps down (1270V2) is still as fast as a stock 3770K and relatively affordable at $344.
 
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Does anybody else think that it is weird that any i3s get ECC support? Don't get me wrong, I think it's great, but it's strange. Why i3s and no i5s or i7s?

It almost seems like a weird experiment, like somebody inside the company was trying to get ECC support on desktop processors, but could only get the people in charge to let it be enabled on certain i3s. The reason for that being that someone higher up can deflect that request in the future by having some numbers to point at and say, "Look, we put ECC on desktop chips and hardly anybody used them with ECC. So we won't do that again."

Or maybe I'm just being paranoid. :sneaky:
 
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You are correct, I didn't notice that the non-ECC Ivy i3 processors have different sockets.
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The processors you linked are all intended for mobile applications.

Does anybody else think that it is weird that any i3s get ECC support? Don't get me wrong, I think it's great, but it's strange. Why i3s and no i5s or i7s?
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It's been this way since (at least) Lynnfield / Clarkdale. The dual cores support ECC in server motherboards, the quads do not. I've spent many an hour debating whether to buy a server board for one of my i3 550s for the ECC support for my FreeNAS, but after talking to an expert on the matter, I was convinced that it would be pointless for my use. I believe ShintaiDK nailed the reasoning on this: the quads have analogs in the Xeon line, the duals, not so much.
 
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abbcccus said:
The processors you linked are all intended for mobile applications.



It's been this way since (at least) Lynnfield / Clarkdale. The dual cores support ECC in server motherboards, the quads do not. I've spent many an hour debating whether to buy a server board for one of my i3 550s for the ECC support for my FreeNAS, but after talking to an expert on the matter, I was convinced that it would be pointless for my use. I believe ShintaiDK nailed the reasoning on this: the quads have analogs in the Xeon line, the duals, not so much.
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e3 xeon line is the i7 desktop line with everything enabled :)
 
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Insert_Nickname said:
This might be exactly what the OP needs. Dual core with HT, ECC and turbo to 3.5GHz... not cheap though...
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Hmm yes already $189 ... for a few more bucks he could already get the 1230v2, max turbo @3.7 Ghz more cache and more cores (maybe useful for other applications?). Maybe that CPU would be the best choice.
 
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Atreidin said:
Does anybody else think that it is weird that any i3s get ECC support? Don't get me wrong, I think it's great, but it's strange.
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I believe there's something called "low end server market" where cost matters and a Xeon would be considered overkill, but nonetheless customers won't touch anything without ECC. There are also Celerons and even Atoms with ECC, presumably for these people.

Atreidin said:
Why i3s and no i5s or i7s?
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An i7 with ECC in LGA1155 does exist, and it is called "Xeon".

Apart from that, an i7 with ECC is still called "i7" when in FCBGA1023.

I don't know what's the deal with current i5 CPUs, ark.intel.com doesn't list any with ECC.
 
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How about this: Xeon 5080
3.73 GHz , 2 cores, 4 threads/core, 4mb cache
google shopping link ($150 -- $400)

Alternatively: Xeon X5687
3.6 GHz, 4 cores 8 threads/core, 12mb cache
...um, NVM... the price on that one is nuts (~$1300)

better than the X5687 would be the E5 1620:
3.6 GHz, 4 cores / 8 threads / 10mb cache... socket 2011!

best deal by far is the 5080 though... get it used, get a used mobo, check the qualified vendor list for ram that is certified to work with the motherboard and you're done.

I don't see a faster Xeon in the recent history of Xeons that tops 3.73 GHz. However, if you're shopping used why not check out for used non-intel chips (GASP!)
I don't have any info on those but it might be worth looking into.
 
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