Does America have the oldest government on Earth?

[RoloMather]

Oldest unchanged government.

Thoughts?

All the governments of all the counties on earth have been changed in the last 200 years. Before you go and try to argue this point lets go over a few examples.

The entire continent of Africa, All countries in Africa today sprung up from the remains of colonial governments from the 19th century. (One down)
Australia (former British colony) 19th century (two down)

Almost all countries in eastern Asia (the Arab states) British colonial governments (mid 20th century)

Europe:
Germany new government 1947
Italy new government 1943 (and about 50 more times between then and now)
Spain 1980's (Monarchy was replaced)
England (Parliamentary government in 19th century) no longer a real monarchy
France (are they a country?) Just kidding French revolution 18th century (after the American Revolution)
China 1949 when the communist took over
All of Eastern Europe 1980's after communism collapsed

 

[DesiPower]

didn't it change in Oct 08?

 

[bignateyk]

For serial?

 

[HardcoreRobot]

government = P&N

leave us alone

 

[sdifox]

For serial?

It's cereal you oaf.

 

[Blackjack200]

I think he's asking if we have the oldest system of government. In which case the answer is no.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution

 

[KMFJD]

Iceland

 

[Lotheron]

Iceland

Technically it would be Antarctica which has had the same government of none. For a really long time >200 years in fact.

 

[acheron]

San Marino

 

[Snapster]

Technically it would be Antarctica which has had the same government of none. For a really long time >200 years in fact.

Technically wouldn't it have to exist to actually be called a government, no policy, no one governing...

 

[Lotheron]

Technically wouldn't it have to exist to actually be called a government, no policy, no one governing...

0 is still a number.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Central & Southern Europe does not equal Northern Europe.
Then you have the Vatican

 

[mugs]

0 is still a number.

"Oldest" is still a word, and it has an actual meaning. No government != oldest government. No government (ever) = longest time since a CHANGE in government.

 

[waffleironhead]

Iceland

I thought they were subject to danish rule until quite a bit after the US was founded. What year did they actually get independent rule and form their own government and fly their own flag?

 

[SlitheryDee]

Close to it, and I'm beginning to think that's bad. Governments seem to need a revolution every now and then to cut away the fat lest they collapse under their own monstrous weight.

 

[mugs]

France (are they a country?) Just kidding French revolution 18th century (after the American Revolution)

France has changed governments twelve more times since the French Revolution. They're on their fifth republic - they just keep surrendering.

French First Republic (1792–1804)
First French Empire (1804–1814, 1815)
Kingdom of France (Bourbon) (1814-1815, 1815-1830)
Kingdom of the French (1830-1848)
French Second Republic (1848–1852)
Second French Empire (1852–1870)
French Third Republic (1870–1940)
French State (Vichy France) (1940-1944)
Provisional Government of the French Republic (1944-1946)
French Fourth Republic (1946–1958)
French Fifth Republic (1958-present)

 

[acheron]

I'm not just saying San Marino, that's actually the answer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marino

"San Marino is the oldest recorded sovereign state and constitutional republic in the world, having been founded on 3 September 301 by stonecutter Marinus of Rab." and "The constitution of San Marino, enacted in 1600, is the world's oldest constitution still in effect."

 

[sdifox]

I'm not just saying San Marino, that's actually the answer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marino

"San Marino is the oldest recorded sovereign state and constitutional republic in the world, having been founded on 3 September 301 by stonecutter Marinus of Rab." and "The constitution of San Marino, enacted in 1600, is the world's oldest constitution still in effect."

So that is where the Stone Cutters came from.

 

[techs]

I'm not just saying San Marino, that's actually the answer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marino

"San Marino is the oldest recorded sovereign state and constitutional republic in the world, having been founded on 3 September 301 by stonecutter Marinus of Rab." and "The constitution of San Marino, enacted in 1600, is the world's oldest constitution still in effect."

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[techs]

Actually, I think the op is talking about the longest of our type.
I forget the term for it, but the system where you have a government with a popularly elected President and a Legislature.

In fact, our type of government has proven to be a failure in every other place it has been tried, long term.

Many people, like myself, are very worried the new monolithic parties in American, added to the change in the spirit of compromise, is exactly the reason other governments like ours have failed, and we are nearing a precipice.

 

[Matthiasa]

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Unless you actually read the article which states they had a temporary change of government from 1923 to 1943, as well as several dates after that.

 

[techs]

Unless you actually read the article which states they had a temporary change of government from 1923 to 1943.

HaHa. Read the article? This ATOT man!:biggrin:

 

[ElFenix]

Unless you actually read the article which states they had a temporary change of government from 1923 to 1943, as well as several dates after that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammarinese_Fascist_Party

looks like most of what was done was done by the book, though.

 

[Matthiasa]

HaHa. Read the article? This ATOT man!:biggrin:

True true.
The first person posting it though should have though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammarinese_Fascist_Party

looks like most of what was done was done by the book, though.

Banning other political parties doesn't sound by the book to me.

 

[FoBoT]

our days are numbered