does amd have an anwser for Intel c2d?

[KeypoX]

Its been about 6 months now what is amd doing... is am2 supposed to take them all the way through the year?

I want to upgrade but wanna see what amd is doing first


"At a meeting with Wall Street analysts here on Dec. 14, AMD executives said the company's core PC processor business would grow at twice the rate predicted for the industry in 2007."

What happen?

A comment from a dec 06 post

" Well too much technical stuff to read through but all i can say is it better beat Intel by a lot. Then Intel can come back and bet AMD by a lot. and so forth and so on...you get my drift.

I want more processing power and at lower cost damn it! Oh and less heat."

When is amd going to be intel by alot?

 

[SickBeast]

Barcelona.

 

[AnotherGuy]

LOL U either plaing like u dont know or u relle have no clue..... Barcelona man... wait till Q3 2007 if not end of 2007 to get a desktop chip from AMD... for now enjoy the core2duo hurricane.... or low prices of AM2.

 

[daveybrat]

They already have an answer to it...........it's called low prices.

We all know X2's can't compete head to head against C2D, but the only thing competing against the X2's new low prices are Intel's awful P4 dual-cores.

 

[Conky]

And the smart money is saying don't bet on Barcelona either. Intel has lots of new stuff coming down the pipeline. Personally, I don't care if a quadcore is "native" 4 cores on a chip or "2 glued together" or whatever... bottom line for me is performance and probably even more importantly, price. The 3rd Qtr Q6600's at $266 are gonna be hard for me to resist.

I hope AMD has a good answer with the Barcelona but besides the fanboys nobody else seems too enthused about the k10/Barcelona. I hope it kicks Intel's ass because the resulting price cuts would leave us all winners but I am doubting it. I am afraid AMD in now in it's "Netburst" phase for the next few years until they can really develop something cool.

 

[biostud]

I wonder why AMD hasn't opted for dual core Barcelona's before the quad core's, or at least sending them to the market at the same time. Clearly the market for dual core's are larger than quad's.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: biostud
I wonder why AMD hasn't opted for dual core Barcelona's before the quad core's, or at least sending them to the market at the same time. Clearly the market for dual core's are larger than quad's.

I suppose the answer is that AMD already has a dual core line-up and really hopes to dazzle with the Barcelona/k10. Unfortunately for AMD, Intel seems to have their stuff together recently so to eclipse them is going to take a huge, if not impossible leap, considering not only a move from one micro-architecture to a new one but also a move to a new manufacturing process as well. Making one change is hard enough but two huge changes at the same time and hoping it does all they hope it will, on time, with good yields, etc... well, I really hope AMD can pull it off but I'm not holding my breath waiting for anything from them right now.

 

[Aluvus]

Originally posted by: Conky
And the smart money is saying don't bet on Barcelona either. Intel has lots of new stuff coming down the pipeline.

Intel has Penryn, which is primarily a die shrink, and will be bumping up Front Side Bus speeds, but until Nehalem they don't have anything too revolutionary.

Barcelona will be coming into a very competitive environment, to be sure. But depending on the pricing structure they end up with, it could still do well. Time will tell. Certainly AMD is under significant pressure now.

 

[PhlashFoto]

Originally posted by: Aluvus

Originally posted by: Conky
And the smart money is saying don't bet on Barcelona either. Intel has lots of new stuff coming down the pipeline.

Intel has Penryn, which is primarily a die shrink, and will be bumping up Front Side Bus speeds, but until Nehalem they don't have anything too revolutionary.

Barcelona will be coming into a very competitive environment, to be sure. But depending on the pricing structure they end up with, it could still do well. Time will tell. Certainly AMD is under significant pressure now.

Wouldn't you be under pressure as well if you owed a few billion dollars?

 

[theprodigalrebel]

AMD is offering sub-$75 dual core A64 X2s. $75/$65 for a Retail/OEM 1.9GHz X2 3600+ which is incredible bang-for-the-buck. Lower prices can be found by shopping around.

Things might change a wee bit (in June) with the Pentium E2xxx series though - Core 2 with 1MB L2/800MHz FSB. But AMD is still good if you want dual-core goodness at incredibly low prices.

 

[Borealis7]

Sure AMD has an asnwer for Intel, price cuts have quite literally leveled the field.
after the last round of AMD price cuts, and Intel's upcoming April 22nd price cuts, AMD will have equaled or bested Intel in every price bracket. (disclaimer: I am no faboy for either company)

just read XBitLabs if you havent already.

 

[MarcVenice]

I read about this yesterday. Its about the fusion-processor. Amd didn't want to make dualcores like intel did, which basicaly are 2 chips on 1 die. Or qaudcores, which are basicaly 2 dualcores on 1 die. They are leaving that idea behind, and are gonna try to integrate gpu's with cpu's and what not. Google it, on the other hand, it's gonna be mainly for pda, smartphones and the like

The barcelone cpu will probably come out around september.

 

[DrMrLordX]

AMD has more than K10 on the way. AM2+ will launch concurrently with Agena and Kuma in Q3, complete with support for HT 3.0 and HTX slots that will let you hot-plug CPUs and other devices that will have full or partial (through "ganging") HT links. You'll even be able to establish HT links between separate machines if hardware supports it (HT links will extend to distances of one meter without signal loss or degradation). I don't think AMD will want or need integrated CPU/GPU products for the desktop considering the fact that you'll probably be able to buy HTX video cards/chips that will plug straight into the system via HT link and have full access to the cache of every HT-linked CPU as well as direct memory access. Most, if not all of the advantages intrinsic to consoles "hard-wired" for gaming will come to HTX-capable PCs. Via "ganging" narrower HT links could be established to NICs and sound cards, partially or fully eliminating the need for PCI and maybe even PCI-e buses. Of course, Intel has CSI coming in 2008 for the server segment (at the very least).

AMD is pushing quad-core first for the server market. Socket F+ (the HT 3.0 version of Socket F) will be showing up in August. Desktop K10 comes later, probably in late Sept or Oct.