Does a 2000+ year maxima require special gasoline?

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Originally posted by: Millenium
Originally posted by: MrsSkoorb
Originally posted by: Parrotheader
Yeah, Pelham Imports is the name. I live out that way and didn't even notice it until I was joyriding the other night. Their prices are what impressed me the most. Don't know if they're buying and fixing wrecks or what, but quite a few cars seemed to have fairly decent prices on them.

Finding a stick will be tough. :( I'd say 80% of the ones I've seen listed are autos. So WHO will be driving the Maxima when you get one?

Duh, me of course!

Actually I will be since I will be the one with the longer commute. :)

I don't get to borrow it? :frown:
Sure if I get the mustang.
 

loosliptcomptrola

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Not a good idea feeding your Max low grade gas. Read up, my friend.... here maxima.org has a lot of helpful info on all generations of Maxima's
 

MomAndSkoorbaby

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Originally posted by: Parrotheader
Originally posted by: MrsSkoorb
Originally posted by: Parrotheader
Yeah, Pelham Imports is the name. I live out that way and didn't even notice it until I was joyriding the other night. Their prices are what impressed me the most. Don't know if they're buying and fixing wrecks or what, but quite a few cars seemed to have fairly decent prices on them.

Finding a stick will be tough. :( I'd say 80% of the ones I've seen listed are autos. So WHO will be driving the Maxima when you get one?

Duh, me of course!

Actually I will be since I will be the one with the longer commute. :)
Somehow it seems like every woman I know always gets the better car while the husband is stuck with the old one :p I'm getting this sinking feeling that when we replace my old Sentra next Spring my wife will somehow end up driving the new vehicle while I am relegated to the second string car again ('97 Accord in this case.) That's just one of the reasons I'm pushing to get a 4-door Tacoma since she doesn't really care if it ends up being a truck ;)

Sneaky. :)
 

prontospyder

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Here's a post by a 3.5SE owner over at the Altimas.net forums:

NVS.. I live on LI.. and I can tell you.. around by me.. it's 93-89-87. OUr cars require 91 Octane or better. SInce our engine is a high compression engine (10.0/1 or higher) it requires the 91 octane to avoid the engine from potential knocking and retarding the timing. (I know someone will correct me on that one )It all depends how you drive. I don't even worry about it, that 4-5 cents difference is really nothing, and I only want the best for my car so it's 93 for me.

And here's a link to the Altima manual: http://www.altimas.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=745932

So it looks like premium fuel is recommended for all models running the Nissan VQ engine.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Roger
Something makes me question the exhaust thing though. It seems possible that the retarded timing could increase emissions, even if ever so slightly? I don't know if that would effect say the catalytic converter's longevity, or perhaps even worsen the milage hit even more due to the ECU compensating? I dunno. Roger?

The ECM will compensate for the lower octane rating.
As for the exhaust system, temps in the exhaust would be slightly raised do to the retarded ignition timing but I doubt very much that it would shorten the life span of the exhaust.
Catalytic convertors require a stoichiometric air fuel ratio (14.7 parts air, 1 part gasoline) to operate efficiantly.
This ratio does not produce maximum horsepower, a ratio as low as 12 to 1 will produce more power but emissions increase exponentially as the air fuel ratio deviates from 14.7 to 1.
The ECM will slightly richen the fuel mixture along with retarded ignition timing when a lower octane fuel is used to combat preignition.(a richer mixture burns cooler)
The ECM will also alter EGR function to compensate for the altered mixture ratio thereby keeping emissions within desired parameters.
This will ofcourse lowers temps in the engine but raises temps in the exhaust system.
But, now here is the catch, most automibile manufactures design there engines and control systems to accomadate lower octane fuel.
So, what is the overall picture ?

You will do no harm when using a lower octane gasoline.

I know the ECM will compensate, but how much will it compensate? Will it keep retarding the timing as long as there is a ping, or does it have a limit? I'm just saying that if he drives in 90 degree weather up a long, steep grade.. is it possible that the engine could still ping?
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
This has got me thinking.. should I use special gasoline in my 240sx?

Only if Nissan says it is necessary to. Otherwise there is no real benefit, notwithstanding the claims of the petroleum companies (who, lo and behold, are selling gasoline!).
The manual says to use 91!! I could have sworn it said 87...

Here is a scan of the manual.

Should I wait until the tank is empty to fill up with 91 octane or should I just do it now with 1/4 tank?
 

mAdD INDIAN

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The 2000 Maximas prefer 92 Octane, and from my experience with the 99 Max, it drinks more gas if you put in 87 Octane. We usually put 94 or 92.