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Doctor refuses to do cSection, baby gets stuck...

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destrekor said:
Do doctors normally present a dead baby to the parents, regardless of how it died before/during/immediately after birth?

And I know a baby's bones are fragile, but is there skin and other tissues that much more fragile too?

I figured it was a case of internal decapitation until I read further into the article. He popped the whole head off? How hard is he pulling?! Holy shit!! D:


But yeah, is it normal procedure (ignoring taping a head back on) to wrap the baby up, present it to the parents, and say, "Here's your kid. Sorry it died. You want to hold it for awhile, or should we cart it off now?"
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Think it's common. Read another one where the baby was stillborn and pronounced dead. But when the mom held the baby, it started breathing.
 
Juddog said:
The baby had abnormalities which had developed during pregnancy; complications were a given.
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Yeah, the doctor had no way of knowing that it would have a head on it that could possibly be damaged by the tried and true birthing method of "pull the fuck out of whatever comes out first."
 
TechBoyJK said:
If the guy was pulling hard enough for the head to pop off, I'm actually thinking something like that had to happen.
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As sick as it sounds, from reading the story this was my impression as well.

The guy must have been pulling pretty damn hard to literally rip the head off.
 
This is a horrible tragedy, but I am not sure it is all the doctor's fault. Much of what I hear is that doctor's jump at the chance to do a c-section. This doctor is actually asked and refused?

This is an amazingly tragic story if all the information given is true, I am just not sure that it is.
 
A little confused. It says the head was removed from the spine and then blood went everywhere. Then when they went into emergency surgery, the head was completely removed from the body. Was the head still attached to the baby's body until they went into surgery? My imagination is giving me more and more gruesome images the more I think about it.
 
Bet the doc was some crazy fundie where csecs are against his believes and all births must be "natural". Maybe he should've prayed the head back on.
 
TechBoyJK said:
I'm having this visual of the doctor pulling so hard, when it popped off the doctor fell backwards into a bunch of equipment. Kinda like letting go of someone when you are battling them in tug of war.
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i'm picturing him pulling, popping the head off, his face going white with panic as he tries feebly shoving everything back into the mother's vagina as if there's nothing to see here...
 
... Wish I didn't read that.

Also as a father, that doctor wouldn't have lived to make it out of the operating room after doing that if that was my child.
 
Did the doc just watch Dumb and Dumber? (Petey, pretty bird...")

I can understand making the wrong decision. It is medicine and you don't know the future. Nobody competent should ever be punished for choosing one thing when, in hindsight, it was the wrong choice. The problem is that he pulled the fucking head off then wrapped it up in gauze. WHAT THE FUCK!?!?! My wife is due any time now and it makes me sick to think that people like this exist.
 
the blood flying every part...just imagining that makes me want to puke. I can't imagine the look on the staffs faces when something like this happens.
 
I'm surprised the doc didn't want to do a C-section. My understanding is they prefer them because they can be scheduled. And, this is just my cynical hunch, they can probably charge more for them.
 
Juddog said:
The baby had abnormalities which had developed during pregnancy; complications were a given.
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True, but the Dr still committed gross negligence, even more so since the standard procedure in the majority of high risk births is to preform c-sections. His actions border on criminally negligent homicide.
 
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Very disturbing... I debated clicking the link... doctors were douche, no doubt...should be jailed and licenses canceled.
 
Apple Of Sodom said:
Did the doc just watch Dumb and Dumber? (Petey, pretty bird...")

I can understand making the wrong decision. It is medicine and you don't know the future. Nobody competent should ever be punished for choosing one thing when, in hindsight, it was the wrong choice. The problem is that he pulled the fucking head off then wrapped it up in gauze. WHAT THE FUCK!?!?! My wife is due any time now and it makes me sick to think that people like this exist.
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He had the chart. Knew of the complications, but decided to do a vaginal birth even though the other dr's professional opinion was that it needed to be a c-section. The Dr failed to meet the standard of care.

They have multiple tort claims, not just a standard malpractice claim. At the very least they have malpractice, wrongful death, and intentional infliction of emotional distress(alternatively pled as negligent infliction of emtional distress). I can see pain and suffering damages being HUGE, not to mention punitive damages.

Even if the Dr somehow were to keep his license, he'll never be able to get malpractice insurance after this case is resolved.
 
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Wreckem said:
He had the chart. Knew of the complications, but decided to do a vaginal birth even though the other dr's professional opinion was that it needed to be a c-section. The Dr failed to meet the standard of care.

How much the couple gets will depend on the state, but its going to be in several million to tens of millions range in most states.
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I'm sure the insurance company for the doctor will want to give them just enough to adopt a replacement.
 
TechBoyJK said:
I'm sure the insurance company for the doctor will want to give them just enough to adopt a replacement.
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Its quite possible damages at trial would vastly exceed the Dr's malpractice coverage. This is case if you are a defense atty you want to go no where near a trial. If you are the plaintiff you want to get this before a jury.
 
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