Do you tip for carryout/takeout?

[alkemyst]

:thumbsup:

I'm employed as an engineer, and I don't expect customers to give me a tip once the product I helped design and build reaches them in good working condition, nor do I expect the shop workers to tip me for making their jobs a little easier as a result of materials or equipment improvements.

wow...at least 4 years of college and still fail.

Depending on the take out window yes and no.

Obviously at a McDonalds no. At a local BBQ joint yes since that person is more or less a server.

Most of the above posts show why we are doomed to fail though as a nation.

 

[Adrenaline]

wow...at least 4 years of college and still fail.

Depending on the take out window yes and no.

Obviously at a McDonalds no. At a local BBQ joint yes since that person is more or less a server.

Most of the above posts show why we are doomed to fail though as a nation.

If I am not sitting down to eat I will still tip, nowhere near the amount if I was dining there. I understand these people get paid less so the food is cheaper. If I want to eat food where I don't expect to tip someone, there is always a McDonalds around the corner.

These polls and questions about tipping get old around here also. This is like the 20th or so since I have been here.

 

[nageov3t]

wow...at least 4 years of college and still fail.

Depending on the take out window yes and no.

Obviously at a McDonalds no. At a local BBQ joint yes since that person is more or less a server.

Most of the above posts show why we are doomed to fail though as a nation.

wait, what?

 

[Jeff7]

wow...at least 4 years of college and still fail.

Depending on the take out window yes and no.

Obviously at a McDonalds no. At a local BBQ joint yes since that person is more or less a server.

Most of the above posts show why we are doomed to fail though as a nation.

Cook at a McDonalds: It's a job.
Cashier at McDonalds: It's a job.
Server at a BBQ joint: It's a job.

Server, cook, cashier, whatever - quality should be a basic expectation of the job, and the base pay rate should be at least minimum wage or higher, or whatever's competitive in that area for basic labor of that sort.

wait, what?

Not enough people tipped their servers in Greece. That's why their economy crashed. Everyone knows this.

 

[ShawnD1]

Not enough people tipped their servers in Greece. That's why their economy crashed. Everyone knows this.

Or if you ask hacp, it's caused by the communists.

 

[alkemyst]

wait, what?

no one gives a shit and expects a free lunch on top of it.

we are going to fail.

 

[alkemyst]

Cook at a McDonalds: It's a job.
Cashier at McDonalds: It's a job.
Server at a BBQ joint: It's a job.

Server, cook, cashier, whatever - quality should be a basic expectation of the job, and the base pay rate should be at least minimum wage or higher, or whatever's competitive in that area for basic labor of that sort.

you failed again since I qualified my post and you ignored that.

At the BBQ joint I talk about the servers just work for tips (+ $2 or so an hour).

The business capitalized on that aspect.

Still many 'regulars' screw the staff. Still the most full place 7 days a week because of GOOD and CHEAP food even with a TIP.

 

[nageov3t]

no one gives a shit and expects a free lunch on top of it.

we are going to fail.

the vast majority of the world doesn't tip at all and whether or not they tip seems to have no impact on the quality of the country in question.

 

[datalink7]

I do if it is some place regular.

I have a favorite pizza place I go to at least once every two weeks (sometimes every week). I leave a decent tip. They know my name and the sound of my voice on the phone. They have the pizza ready exactly 15 minutes after I call, and if there is a huge line I go to the side and pay. Building that relationship and leaving a tip is worth it for me.

If it is some random place then no unless I am feeling nice.

 

[jteef]

the vast majority of the world doesn't tip at all and whether or not they tip seems to have no impact on the quality of the country in question.

this is an absurd statement. you've never eaten at a restaurant in europe. most places employ 1-2 people for 20-30 tables. the resulting service is horrendous. everywhere.

 

[alkemyst]

the vast majority of the world doesn't tip at all and whether or not they tip seems to have no impact on the quality of the country in question.

because most of the world is impoverished?

 

[nageov3t]

because most of the world is impoverished?

Paris and London, true bastions of poverty.

 

[alkemyst]

Paris and London, true bastions of poverty.

Wait you think Paris and London make up the vast majority of the world?

 

[DesiPower]

No, there is no service involved. Service, IMHO = food served on my table or delivered to home. Carryout/takeout has none.

 

[Balt]

If I wanted to tip I'd just sit on my ass at home and have it delivered or sit down at a table.

 

[Balt]

this is an absurd statement. you've never eaten at a restaurant in europe. most places employ 1-2 people for 20-30 tables. the resulting service is horrendous. everywhere.

Eh, I don't know if I agree with this. Evening dining in Europe is intentionally different in a cultural way. Diners in the states want to go to a steakhouse and have their hot food out within 15 minutes. Over in Europe, people usually want and expect to take their time at a restaurant (unless it's for lunch). If you go to a fine dining establishment in the states it's pretty much the same thing. You have apps, main course, a few drinks, possibly dessert.

 

[Linflas]

this is an absurd statement. you've never eaten at a restaurant in europe. most places employ 1-2 people for 20-30 tables. the resulting service is horrendous. everywhere.

Then things have changed a lot since I was there when I was in the Navy. I had very good service in most restaurants I ate in in Italy, Spain, Switzerland, and Germany.

 

[Jeff7]

you failed again since I qualified my post and you ignored that.

At the BBQ joint I talk about the servers just work for tips (+ $2 or so an hour).

The business capitalized on that aspect.

Still many 'regulars' screw the staff. Still the most full place 7 days a week because of GOOD and CHEAP food even with a TIP.

wow...at least 4 years of college and still fail.

Depending on the take out window yes and no.

Obviously at a McDonalds no. At a local BBQ joint yes since that person is more or less a server.

Most of the above posts show why we are doomed to fail though as a nation.

Well folks, looks like I've failed Alkemyst twice in a single thread. I can't let this happen ever again.

Please send someone to my apartment to clean up the blood after I Seppuku myself. I'll leave some money out to help pay for the Rug Doctor rental.

*salutes*

And one final nef:

BUTTS LOL

 

[jteef]

Eh, I don't know if I agree with this. Evening dining in Europe is intentionally different in a cultural way. Diners in the states want to go to a steakhouse and have their hot food out within 15 minutes. Over in Europe, people usually want and expect to take their time at a restaurant (unless it's for lunch). If you go to a fine dining establishment in the states it's pretty much the same thing. You have apps, main course, a few drinks, possibly dessert.

it doesn't change that an american restaurant will usually assign around 20 people per server; a european restaurant will assign around 50-60. fine dining at an american place usually has very prompt service, even if the multiple courses themselves take a while to cycle through; usually if you're done with one course, the next is delivered within a couple minutes.

in a european place, its at least a 30 minute wait to get drink refills (which they collect extra money for!), a new bottle of wine, new napkins, utensils, etc. usually its a 20-30 minute wait when you even arrive at the place to see your waiter and get drinks ordered. its basically impossible to go to a normal restaurant and something like a movie in the same night. I got "great" service twice that I can recall. One was at the intercontinental hotel restaurant in rome for a formal dinner. The other was at a super upscale french chateau north of strasbourg; there was only one other table that night, which is why I suspect they were good. (I've been to plenty other places where we were the only table and service still sucked)

this is based on around 200 different restaurants in the stuttgart area and 100 others scattered from london to tel aviv, barcelona to vienna over a 4 year period. from 5 euro pp to 200 euro pp.

I got used to the style, and you can certainly find a lot of variety of food that tastes incredible, but I'll never allow that they are good at service, because there is no motivation to do so.

 

[LikeLinus]

this is an absurd statement. you've never eaten at a restaurant in europe. most places employ 1-2 people for 20-30 tables. the resulting service is horrendous. everywhere.

In Nov. ’08, I traveled with 4 co-workers to London, Hamburg, Paris and Toulouse for several weeks. I never saw anything like what you are talking about. The service was generally good and there were not 1-2 servers for 30 tables..lol. This isn't the first time I've traveled to Europe, but it's the last time due to the economy.

The only issue I ran into was in Toulouse. I was told to order this cheese covered steak by the locals and when it got there it was WAY blue. I had told them Medium and when I asked them to cook it more...they refused and acted like I insulted them. I simply changed dishes with one of the customers I was with and that was that. The fish they had ordered was delicious though!

I did notice that the French like to drink wine and take their time with lunches.

 

[ahenkel]

I didn't at first, but I've started to and I noticed the time they give me for the food to be picked up bumped up. Also I live outside the town limits so the only pizza delivery place normally won't deliver to me. I started tipping when I went to pick it up and they asked if I'd be interested in delivery and made an exception for me.

 

[ShawnD1]

I did notice that the French like to drink wine and take their time with lunches.

That's because they're not puritans. If you try to live like a frenchman in the US, you'll get stoned with big rocks. He watches a television show with boobies then he drank a glass of wine?? We shall burn him at the stake!

 

[TallBill]

I don't order takeout, but a few points I'll bring up since I'm a server.

1. It does take time (even a few minutes) to take your order, ring it, pack it, and cash you out. It doesn't seem like much, but unless there is a dedicated takeout staff you are taking away time from my customers that are dining in.

2. As mentioned above, servers get paid a lower wage in order for restaurants to keep costs down, which does lower food prices.

3. Depending on the restaurant, the sales will probably go toward their total sales -- which we tip the bar and bussers out of. If you get a giant to go order of $100 and don't leave me a tip, you've actually caused me to lose $4 on the transaction.

I can tell you that most servers are not very excited to receive a to go order. If you intend on ordering to go regularly from a certain spot, give a few bucks and they will remember you. We actually had $5 off coupons for a while at my work that we could throw into togo orders.

 

[alkemyst]

Well folks, looks like I've failed Alkemyst twice in a single thread. I can't let this happen ever again.

Please send someone to my apartment to clean up the blood after I Seppuku myself. I'll leave some money out to help pay for the Rug Doctor rental.

*salutes*

And one final nef:

BUTTS LOL

thanks for thinking of your servers.

 

[alkemyst]

it doesn't change that an american restaurant will usually assign around 20 people per server

what? just 5 tables? You never stated a plate charge, but the average place will have a server at least at 10 tables and usually due to other slackers calling in another 5-10.

As you work your way up the food chain your server gets more dedicated (and the plate charge rises, yes it's still the same meats and vegetables)...

if your takeout requires a server to handle it then that adds into the mix.