Do you think trying to force ppl into christianity is wrong?

[Stark]

Red,

Do you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, mon?


If anyone has a problem with people witnessing, preaching and teaching to non-believers, they should take it up with Jesus. They are following the directions he gave.

Baker's Evangelical Dictionary
of Biblical Theology

Great Commission, the

Mandate to "make disciples of all nations" given by Christ to his disciples following his death and resurrection (Matt 28:16-20; Mark 16:15-18; Luke 24:46-49; John 20:21-23; Acts 1:8). Because Christ has been given all authority in heaven and on earth (Matt 28:19), the Great Commission is to be taken with the utmost seriousness by all of his disciples, "to the very end of the age" (Matt 28:20).

The impetus for the Great Commission springs from the heart of God. He loved us and gave his Son or us (John 3:16). The disciples are sent out to accomplish what God had started in the sending of his Son (John 20:21). The Great Commission is thus linked to God's words to Abraham: that "all peoples on earth will be blessed through you" (Gen 12:3).

The Great Commission is accomplished through witnessing (Acts 1:8), preaching (Mark 16:15), baptizing, and teaching (Matt 28:20). Jesus' disciples are to replicate themselves in the lives of those who respond to the Good News. The Holy Spirit is the empowering agent for those who witness (Acts 1:8), as well as the one who convicts sinners of their need for Jesus (John 16:8-11). The disciples will have success because Jesus, the Lord of heaven and earth, will be with them as they undertake their assignment (Matt 28:20).

The Great Commission necessitates taking the gospel message to "the ends of the earth" (Acts 1:8), to "all nations" (Matt 28:19). The Good News is to be shared with all peoples, for all are sinners, Jews and Gentile alike, and in need of deliverance from sin (Rom 3). All peoples, by faith, can receive God's provision and are baptized into Christ. In Christ, all distinctions between Jew and Gentile disappear (Rom 10:12-13; Gal 3:28).

 

[Red Dawn]

Do you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, mon?

Yeah they are going to rock on down Electric Avenue (then they'll steal your tires)

If anyone has a problem with people witnessing, preaching and teaching to non-believers, they should take it up with Jesus. They are following the directions he gave.

So if we have a problem with Anti Semites Killing Jews should we blame Hitler or the Anti Semites?

 

[CraigRT]

People trying to convert anyone to anything is wrong. As long as it's not forcive its fine. i guess.. It's like a jehova.. i'd flip if they came and tried to tell me to believe in what they believe in.. blah..

 

[Stark]

So if we have a problem with Anti Semites Killing Jews should we blame Hitler or the Anti Semites?

Hitler is Dead. Jesus is risen... indeed.

 

[GeekDrew]

I think that forcing your beliefs on someone is horrendously wrong. I've had to many people try to do that to me, since I'm gay. I've taken abuse from way too many "christian" hypocrites.

<STRONG>jjsole</STRONG> has a good point. It would depend upon how each person looks at the conversation.

All of this said, I still consider myself a christian, and try to do as God has instructed us to.

If I've offended anyone, then I'm honestly sorry.
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gay propoganda groups force gayness onto children in schools

What do you mean by gayness? Toleration, maybe. It certainly doesn't force them to believe that they themselves are gay.

 

[Nefrodite]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Nefrodite
well if you think about it, most people DO have religion forced on them. do you really think a young child has the intellectual maturity to choose a religion? and frankly even if they could, parents wouldn't allow it. if all children were kept away from religion until say age 16 or 18 then maybe you could say they really had a choice.

most of the time your just born into a religion

Religion is just a traditional doctrine. Accepting Jesus christ as your savior is not Religious. Giving 10 percent to a church and saying the lord's prayer is religious. See the difference?

Nobody can ever force you to accept Jesus, they can force you to repeat religious traditions like a drone, but when it comes to the actual point of it all, everyone still chooses for themself.

you have more faith in peoples ability to withstand brainwashing then. many young children are easily susceptible. do you wonder if they really believe there are monsters? santa claus?

how about cult members? some people are easily susceptible to belief. madrassas in the middle east where children learn nothing but scripture all day, every day... etc.

gay propoganda groups force gayness onto children in schools

which explains it... right. because being gay is so much fun.... alan shepard fun.

 

[KingA21]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
forcing, maybe. trying to convert someone, not really.

I agree. Forcing a religion on someone is wrong, but trying to convert them (or at the very least showing them what christianity is all about), I see no problem with.

 

[Josephus]

The best way to proslytise is to exhit profound peace and compassion, to make those who make your acquaintance want to understand how these characteristics can be developed. Forcing religious doctrine and judgement on people is not a part of my understanding, or modus operandi......

 

[Gooberlx2]

I don't feel like reading all the replies so I'll just throw in my $0.02

I think that a question like this is relative to who (whom?) you're asking. With that in mind I can't say that it's fundamentally wrong, however I do find it extremely annoying.

 

[xirtam]

They should pass some kind of anti-proselytizing act, where you can get your house off "the list" if you get visited later than three months after getting on this "list." Then it would be the responsibility of the organizations to make sure they go to houses that aren't on the "list." Kind of like the telemarketing act passed awhile ago.

 

[Ameesh]

i think its the worst evil that has ever happend to the world during the history of man.

 

[her209]

I think its wrong to try and convert when the person has already declined before. Then its just damn annoying...

 

[Hootermelots]

I say kill all the ragheads and let God sort em out!

Hooter

Ragheads? Did you say Ragheads?? Goodbye!!

 

[JellyBaby]

I can't condone the missionary thing except in the context of a kinky position. Christians are taught and, yea, are expected to do mission work...baptists are notorious for this. Not as bad as Mormoms but still pretty bad. If the religion needs so much active marketing is the product really worth it?

Then when they do go and spread the word eventually they bump into some crazed Islamists and get slaughtered. Look at indonesia these days.

 

[LordMaul]

Originally posted by: Jerboy
Religion is just a traditional doctrine. Accepting Jesus christ as your savior is not Religious. Giving 10 percent to a church and saying the lord's prayer is religious. See the difference?

Nobody can ever force you to accept Jesus, they can force you to repeat religious traditions like a drone, but when it comes to the actual point of it all, everyone still chooses for themself.

Anyone can be brainwashed, especially if they're taught in childhood. Kids often go to church just because their parents make them. I believe forcing children to Christianity is equally as bad as brainwashing them to never date anyone with more than 2" of height difference.

Your above point is...sort of right. The difference would be more like a Christian versus one who "actively practices religion", or a "practicing Christian".

Or something.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

Yeah, because Scientology is the REAL truth. NO CALLBACKS INFINITY PLUS ONE!!

 

[PistachioByAzul]

ultimately its not going to be the Christians who change them but God

So why even bother.

 

[Nefrodite]

Originally posted by: EngineNr9
Yeah, because Scientology is the REAL truth. NO CALLBACKS INFINITY PLUS ONE!!

but i'm sure the world would be a better place if all muslims were scientoligists

i doubt the scientoigy book has anything like "If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches..." (Surah 3:156-)

"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)

"Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:7)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51) "The God will say: 'Jesus, son of Mary, did you ever say to mankind 'Worship me and my mother as gods besides God?' 'Glory to You, 'he will answer, 'how could I ever say that to which I have no right?" (Surah 5:114-)

Koran

 

[element2k5]

not true i think math is the only solid truth we have.... it always seems to point to the numbers

 

[Alex]

i think the poll results speak for themselves. beliefs are just that; one's own personal beliefs. trying to push your religion onto someone else is just wrong. ppl are free to be christian, muslim, atheist, agnostic and even satanist if they want and its nobody's business other than their own.

 

[skace]

I love how some people try to pretend science is just another religion of some sort. Like if science wasn't here, christ himself would run my fridge for me. Yea okay buddy. Your on a COMPUTER, what things do you think made that possible.

"Hitler is Dead. Jesus is risen... indeed."

^-- LOL

 

[Michael1897]

yea, i don't like the whole televangelism deal either. to me it seems more of a ploy to extort money from people. let ppl choose what they want. and tell those jehova's witnesses to stay away from my house.

I don't feel too much sympathy for those baptist chicks that were taken hostage in afghanistan either. they were and are stupid for going over to a muslim country knowing the amount of disdain they have for western culture and trying to convert them. top it off with the fact that they now have a book out and are making insane amounts of money off of it.

 

[Stark]

I love how some people try to pretend science is just another religion of some sort. Like if science wasn't here, christ himself would run my fridge for me. Yea okay buddy. Your on a COMPUTER, what things do you think made that possible

I thought science was the study of the physical laws of the universe and their effects. It's a human activity.

If someone replaces religious belief or practices in their life with science (or any other thing), then science can indeed become a religion in itself. To me, it seems obvious that everyone has a god or gods in their lives. Drugs, science, computers, sex, money, power, cars, music... the list of gods that people worship today is endless.

And all of those things are weak replacements for the one real God.

 

[skace]

So you could have computers without science? You could have electricity without science? Arn't these things just scientific discoveries? They are all tied into science and are an effect of it. To take away science takes away all your advancement as a civilization. Religion dwells on the past, science the future.

Drugs, sex, computers, etc are not gods. People do not believe they created the world or judge their life. The things you listed were all aspects of living - not superior beings.

 

[Stark]

So you could have computers without science? You could have electricity without science? Arn't these things just scientific discoveries? They are all tied into science and are an effect of it. To take away science takes away all your advancement as a civilization. Religion dwells on the past, science the future.

Drugs, sex, computers, etc are not gods. People do not believe they created the world or judge their life. The things you listed were all aspects of living - not superior beings.

Could you have computers without the study of the laws of nature through physics and chemistry? No. Could you have electricity without science? Yes. You are confusing things that man has developed through science and the things that science observes and studies.

Few, if any, Christians are against science. However most do recognize God's commandment: "I am the Lord your God. You shall have no other gods before me." In that light, anything that comes before God, be it a job, hobby, idea, or thing becomes a god in its own right. Christians are wary and often critical of anyone who denies God in favor of something else.