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Do you think that the world will enter a world war 3?

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ForumMaster said:
Ever heard of the "Democratic Peace Theory"?

basically states (and you can see it too) that democracies tend not to fight if they can help since it is not economical. today, corporations rule the world. companies exist/operate in many different countries. the big companies have a lot of power.

despite what you think, America isn't going to start a war with china soon. and it has nothing to do with debt.
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Ah! That explains Iraq!
 
No, I think nature will kick our asses first. There's a nice super volcano that is over due in Yellowstone just waiting to go off.
 
DrPizza said:
Ah! That explains Iraq!
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America doesn't have the stomach for the only two possible solutions for Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. We could continually occupy them and enforce martial law while incurring casualties and the general wrath of the rest of the world or, we could destroy their culture as we did with the American Indians while incurring casualties and the general wrath of the rest of the world. Both are only slightly less repugnant than using nuclear weapons. So, instead, we're going to fuck around while incurring casualties and the general wrath of the rest of the world. "A curious game. The only way to win is not to play."
 
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John Connor said:
No, I think nature will kick our asses first. There's a nice super volcano that is over due in Yellowstone just waiting to go off.
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The problem is that's not a global killer. It will wipe out all of North America and starve billions in the ensuing nuclear winter, but at least a billion people will survive. Wimpy little supervolcano doesn't even have the power to destroy the world. Maybe if Yellowstone and Toba went off within a couple of years of each other that would do it.
 
I would expect future conflicts of considerable size, but I don't see a true world war like the past ones taking place any time soon at all. America's power would have to decline to the point where we couldn't just smash the crap out of other nations like we can now. I see America's relative power decline as the thing to watch for.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
The problem is that's not a global killer. It will wipe out all of North America and starve billions in the ensuing nuclear winter, but at least a billion people will survive. Wimpy little supervolcano doesn't even have the power to destroy the world. Maybe if Yellowstone and Toba went off within a couple of years of each other that would do it.
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Well, you can always hope for an asteroid. 😀

http://www.carloslabs.com/node/16
 
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”

― Albert Einstein
 
Snock514 said:
is it really?
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Shit isn't made like it used to be.

Or in my case a 5 box of 8oz mac and cheese is now a 4 box of 7.25oz mac and cheese.

So yes. Same goes for most things physical not just food. Clothing is made cheaper or pay through the nose, Furniture is made cheaper or pay through the nose, etc etc. The things that actually matter are in decline. Or are you one of the smartphones = awesome standard of living types.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
What the world needs is a complete format, a simple reboot won't cut it. The dinosaurs were a far better life form than we are and would probably still be in charge if not for one random rock. Wipe out everything on earth down to bacteria level and let evolution take another shot at it. Humans can't be fixed.
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buck up, kiddo. stop feeling bad and live your life.
 
I can see it happen, and it may be more of a civil world war. It seems every government is getting more and more corrupt,and more and more is being uncovered thanks to good guys like Edward Snowden. It's not just one government being corrupt, it's all of them, collaboratively being corrupt against their own people. It's bound to break at some point and shit will go down hard. Though I think this could take a while, since the general public either does not care or is not informed. It's actually more in the media's hands than anything. They need to cover this stuff more deeply.
 
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What the world needs is a complete format, a simple reboot won't cut it. The dinosaurs were a far better life form than we are and would probably still be in charge if not for one random rock. Wipe out everything on earth down to bacteria level and let evolution take another shot at it. Humans can't be fixed.
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It's eventually going to happen. If it's not the rapture/tribulation, it's going to be global warming.
 
UglyCasanova said:
I doubt it. The world is far too interconnected now. Plenty of small wars, but no truly global one.
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This is my thought as well. Imperialism is more or less gone, and if you really think about it, the first two World Wars were just large scale conflicts with a pretty bow on them. Who exactly gets to define what "World War III" is anyway? Is it the EU? NATO? Wikipedia? ATOT?
 
The governments and bankers would love one.

I hope the common people of the world have the courage to stand up to their rulers. It's rarely the average citizen which supports a war, especially like the massive one proposed.
 
OverVolt said:
Shit isn't made like it used to be.

Or in my case a 5 box of 8oz mac and cheese is now a 4 box of 7.25oz mac and cheese.

So yes. Same goes for most things physical not just food. Clothing is made cheaper or pay through the nose, Furniture is made cheaper or pay through the nose, etc etc. The things that actually matter are in decline. Or are you one of the smartphones = awesome standard of living types.
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My grandparents love to tell me about how they only had one pair of shoes as children, which of course were only for church, along with one pair of "dress" overalls to wear when they weren't wearing the stuff their mom made for them. I'm sure those shoes and overalls were of very good quality, but they were also so expensive that no one got more than one set. That set was also to be guarded carefully to ensure that it lasted as long as possible. I'm also sure their parents would have loved a cheaper option so they could wear them for more than one day a week.

I think that's the difficulty with comparing quality over time. Often back in the day the cheapest choice was of excellent quality, but it was still expensive. Nobody complained because they didn't have a plastic made-in-china version to compare anything to. They just bought less and took better care of everything because that was what they had to do to make ends meet. Every pair of shoes, every suit of clothes, every dish or pot or pan was still a significant purchase money-wise though.

So no, I don't see a real decline in quality for money spent, just more cheap options. If you spend the same money, adjusted for inflation of course, you're probably getting even better quality today. A $15 pair of shoes in 1960 is a $120 pair of shoes today. Neither would last me much more than a year, but the shoes of today would be far more comfortable. A $2500 car in 1960 is a $20,000 car today, and the car of today will typically go several times the distance of the 1960s car without significant repairs while being much safer and using less gas. This is the way it is in most categories of product. You can't be mad because the cheapest version of something available today isn't as good as the cheapest version of something in times past. Chances are that item was priced the same as a higher end item would be today, and was actually of lower quality than the comparably priced item of today.

One of the reasons our parents and grandparents are the miserly old fucks they likely are is because, while everything was pretty good quality, everything was still expensive back then. Imagine if you HAD to buy the $200 shoes, or the $20,000 car, or the $100 shirt, or $80 frying pan because there wasn't even a cheaper brand on the market. Now imagine that you had even less money than the average working person does right now to buy all that with. You'd probably start acting a lot like gramps in that situation. Everything you bought would last, but then again it would have to because you certainly couldn't afford to buy it all too often.
 
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I'm not sure. I'd like to say no because of how interconnected countries have become now, but I still think a true world war is fairly possible.
 
I don't think there will be a WW3. WW2 brought us the advent of weapons of mass destruction. We've reached a novel period in history where a war could inevitably end with no winners. We’re in a unique period in history where we need to co-exist with our differences peacefully. This era is often described as the postmodernist era where the belief of a subjective nature of reality is widely assimilated into cultures. Acceptance and understanding of differences became essential virtues to the survival of our species, if not for a harmonious co-existence in a globalized society.
 
So I hope that a lot of "save the earth" hippies have realized that Terra is much more durable than the human race. I have not taken a strong position in the climate change debate except that inhospitality to human life does not mean a dead planet. We would have to poison the oceans hardcore to kill the life living off of hydrothermal vents. Of course the mantle will eventually cool and kill them off as well, but the sun will also go red giant and take it all back if you trace it out far enough.
 
i see anandtech hosts not many students of history.

world war 3 has already taken place. it was known as the cold war. the west won for the same reason we always win - we're rich.

if anyone would like to disagree with the cold war being the third world war, i invite you to explain it to the uncountable millions of dead the 2 clashing superpowers and their satellites have left all over the globe. the US dropped at least as many bombs in korea as it had it all of ww2, and more still in vietnam. nuclear weapons have sprinkled uranium, plutonium and by-products all over the planet. civilians have been the target of biological and chemical weapons in the US, UK, USSR, china and many more. the protagonists have shot and killed each other's soldiers many times. civilians are constantly smothered in propaganda and live in fear of witch hunts and purges.

there is no aspect of the post-ww2 era that was not tied to a war actively and simultaneously taking place all around the world.
 
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