Do you think that the Bush Administration "TOTALLY SUCKS"?

[Dhruv]

to be honest, i've had my ups and downs with him. I know he isn't the most qualified, most intelligent, most honest individual there is. Sometimes i think he is okay, but many times, especially in recent months, I think he does suck.

The main reason i dont like him right now is because it looks like we are/have gone to war with Iraq. Just when our economy is slowly building itself up we are going to spend hundreds of millions on this war. Bad timing IMO. Some think that, well, Iraq is a serious threat. Fine, i'll agree to that. Show me some evidence.

Fact is, I've read articles on what our forces are doing over there by non-U.S. media reports. Why the hush hush? If evidence of Iraq is, as Trent Lott described it, 'troubling,' well, what is it, I think we have a right to know.

On the other hand, if there is nothing really there and we are just looking for an opportune moment to strike S.H., while the world is against this decision btw, i don't think this is the time to do it. We can't try to ride the international wave of concern over Islamic militancy with Iraq. Quite frankly, I'm more worried about more U.S. companies going down the toilet than whats happening in Iraq. I have yet to see evidence that would change my opinion at this time.

 

[FSUpaintball]

I HATE the bush administration.

 

[Stark]

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Californian here.

Bush isn't steller, but he does a fine job in my book.

Davis sucks a fat one, twice on tuesdays.

Gore lost, boo hoo.

What he said.

Bush only sucks if you're a tree, river, or chipmunk. Other than his environmental policy (or lack thereof) he's doing just fine.

 

[shazbot]

me no likey likey bush.

 

[Red Dawn]

Stojakapimp

this is why i hate hippies.

Why because you are an emasculated dweeb who rarely if ever posts anything worth taking the time to read? Doesn't sound like a ghood reason to be a hater, just a good reason to grow a pair.


Tominator

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn

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Davis sucks and you know it Red.
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Almost all politicians, especially in California, suck no matter if they are Democrat or Republican. You replace Davis it will just be with another buffoon like the last Republican Governor, Peewee Pete Wilson, or with the Crook the Republicans have running against him now, Bill Simon.
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Life in general sucks yet we forge on.....that's a lame excuse.

Excuse?What Excuse? I don't see no steenkin excuse!!!. I just posted the undeniable truth which you seem to back up.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Tominator
I'm just glad we do not have a Gore/Liberman administration during this time of crisis regarding both the economy and the 911 aftermath.

Politics suck in general btw but I have a feeling Bush knows more than he is prepared to release publicly. Blair is privy and that is why he is onboard. I imagine the source of any important info may be compromised if anyone eles were included.

This might 'suck,' but it sure beats Clinton/Gore any day!

Well said Tom,

I don't know how Gore would have even handled this...

That being said, Most should be EXTREMELY happy that he has an Excellent cabinet around him...

 

[shifrbv]

in reality , the President of the US has very little to do with the US or World economy, good or bad

I don't buy this. From the minute the election was decided, one could feel the definite mood change in the country. People were uneasy and business sensed it. Everywhere, we watched the recession grow as one business after another slashed spending and had reports of Bush "talking down" the economy. While the recession deepened, the administration tried to weasel their way out of declaring it with Treasury Secretary O'Neill even claiming "what recession?". Now that the truth is out and the administration has to face it, they've been horrible in helping to do anything about it. Bush has even helped to make it somewhat more shaky by starting trade wars and threatening sanctions. Corporate scandal has been quieted for awhile, but even a year after the incidents, we still haven't seen justice. Now he's on TV every other minute threatening a war with Iraq. No one knows what's going on so people get even more nervous. Most of the economy has to do with perception. With a lack of faith in the country's leader and a zigzag policy on almost everything, that doesn't make for alot of confidence.

We've even seen someone in this thread talking about how if we go to war with Iraq, people better start making preparations. Some might say this is over the top, but if a few people feel this and state it openly online, then you can bet many more are feeling the same privately. And if they are, this has a profound effect on the economy and is the reason we're about ready to head into the double dip of this recession.

My personal feelings on Bush are that I don't really care for him. I don't feel that he is a strong leader and I haven't been inspired by any of his policies or speeches. In the biggest crisis during my lifetime, 9/11, Bush was largely absent. Americans had to look to Guilliani for information and as a leader. I don't feel that he is taking advice from the right people and that many of his cabinet choices have been an abysmal failure (O'Neill and Ashcroft). Those whom he is currently listening to in regards to Iraq have had very little previous military experience. Those who do have experience, he is shutting out (like Powell who has openly refused to work with Bush even if he is re-elected in 2004). This administration doesn't seem to come across as very professional and their agenda for America doesn't seem to offer much hope. Only more war and hardship.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Garfang
Powell was gettin booed hardcore at the World Summit on Sustainable Development when he tried to claim that the administration was committed to the environment, because everyone else knows it's a farce. It's oil and big business first, and maybe, if there's time for it, a small budget for environmental issues, mostly to be spent on PR rather than action. The world environment deserves better consideration from the "greatest country on earth."

shutup

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Garfang

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt


Gore lost, boo hoo.

Because a republican secretary of state, and a court full of republican judges, decided that he lost.

Later independent recounts in the state of Florida, not to mention the popular vote throughout the nation, say that the voters decided otherwise.

I told you to shutup

 

[roncarter]

yes they suck... when they catch bin laden.. they will be good

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

That said, the economy and the country was more prosperous during Clintons Administration than Bushes.

Thanks to Reagan.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Increased agricultural subsidies. These were especially contentious because the range of agricultural products being subsidized were expanded to include grains that enjoyed strong market prices already(ie many farmers used these grains as cash crops and as a hedge against weak wheat prices). ***On a related but not Bush specific note: The US and Europe are the biggest Agricultural Subsidizers in the world. Many Third World nations are required to remove all protections of their Agricultural industries in order to receive WTO funding. For many of these nations, their Agricultural industries have been totally decimated by the European and US subsidized Agricultural industries. This has worsened not only their ability to grow sufficient food for themselves, but has actually hurt their economies.***

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Ironic that the Democratic controlled Senate just passed another subsidy today, isn't it? - after Bush said he did NOT want to subsidize anymore

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Dhruv

The main reason i dont like him right now is because it looks like we are/have gone to war with Iraq. Just when our economy is slowly building itself up we are going to spend hundreds of millions on this war. Bad timing IMO. Some think that, well, Iraq is a serious threat. Fine, i'll agree to that. Show me some evidence.

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Actually war can be good for an economy. Look at what happened during and after WWII.

 

[JellyBaby]

Actually war can be good for an economy. Look at what happened during and after WWII.

I would not ever justify killing American soldiers, enemy combatants and a large number of innocent civilians because it benefits our economy.

I sincerely hope Bush's plan to override Congress's power to declar war isn't designed to bolster our military-industrial complex.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: JellyBaby

Actually war can be good for an economy. Look at what happened during and after WWII.

I would not ever justify killing American soldiers, enemy combatants and a large number of innocent civilians because it benefits our economy.

I sincerely hope Bush's plan to override Congress's power to declar war isn't designed to bolster our military-industrial complex.

I wasn't justifying anything, I was just contridicting his implyed belief that the economy would be hurt due to a war.

 

[JellyBaby]

I wasn't justifying anything, I was just contridicting his implyed belief that the economy would be hurt due to a war.

WW2 was different, though. The ecomony was industrial and nearly all of its manufacturing power was pointed toward building the military machine.

Today we have an IT economy. A prolonged war would certainly help some sectors but definitely not to the degree it did 60 years ago.

I can tell you gas and home energy prices will rise, as they did during the Gulf War. You may or may not consider this hurting the economy but it will surely hit American citizens in the face.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: sandorski

Increased agricultural subsidies. These were especially contentious because the range of agricultural products being subsidized were expanded to include grains that enjoyed strong market prices already(ie many farmers used these grains as cash crops and as a hedge against weak wheat prices). ***On a related but not Bush specific note: The US and Europe are the biggest Agricultural Subsidizers in the world. Many Third World nations are required to remove all protections of their Agricultural industries in order to receive WTO funding. For many of these nations, their Agricultural industries have been totally decimated by the European and US subsidized Agricultural industries. This has worsened not only their ability to grow sufficient food for themselves, but has actually hurt their economies.***

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Ironic that the Democratic controlled Senate just passed another subsidy today, isn't it? - after Bush said he did NOT want to subsidize anymore

They did? Then they suck too.

 

[Moonbeam]

War will certainly help the economy of the Carlyle Group.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
War will certainly help the economy of the Carlyle Group.

It's too bad Moonie, that article may have actually had some truth in it. Unfortunately they were so determined to prove a link between Rumsfeld and Frank Carlucci they outright lied about Rumsfeld's position on the Crusader. He has been opposed to it since he took office and very public about it. Reporting that is that sloppy or outright lies bears no further scrutiny and if in hardcopy would serve nicely as today's mullet wrapper.

 

[Moonbeam]

Nice to know, Dave. I just posted the link to provide some background to the group in case anybody was interested. I had no opinion on the total accuracy of everything there. I've made a few partial scores here of late, some have at least said. I?ll take that. I'm not so much pushing a position as a way of seeing, he stubborn insistence to question everything.

 

[kgraeme]

Totally Sucks.

Especially Ashcroft. I'm not fond of Bush, but Ashcroft is the axis of evil.

 

[UDT89]

i think people are making harsh remarks here. obviously there are things that these people know that we dont. so their decisions are based on that, and ours are based on less information.

second, how would you react if you were the president? its a lot of pressure to try and get rid of terrorism.


I just feel like the last 6 months have been too much idle time, too much sitting back.

 

[EXman]

Comming from liberal california, it seems that everyone I talk to thinks that the Bush admin. completely sucks. Everyone here agrees it seems. But my impression is that the rest of the US does not agree. What is the feeling in your area?

In mid America we are glad Gore wasn't are leader during all this... remember 9-11 started years before Bush was elected. To Bad the Clinton Administration told Pakistani Intelligence that in turn warned Al Quiada to the pending 80 cruise missles that missed Osama by 3 hours.

Personally I hope the CIA, FBI, and the NSA have gotten their collective heads out of there A$$ES. IMO

God Bless America!

 

[dukdukgoos]

The Bush Administration is a puppet for the oil industry. "TOTALLY SUCKS" kind of makes light of that, but I think that Bush's policies are not in the interests of ordinary Americans ? or humanity in general.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

That said, the economy and the country was more prosperous during Clintons Administration than Bushes.

Thanks to Reagan.

Does that mean the prosperous economy during the 80's was thanks to Carter?