Do you think that George W. Bush will serve more than one term?

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flavio

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If we can't come up with a better leader than Bush, whether it be a Democrat or Republican then we are doomed.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Really????? How old were you in 1984????? Seems I recall nationwide unemployment at post WWII record levels and intrest rates as well.............the economy SUCKED.................still............who won that election and was president for a second term??????

Still not comparable to 2004. Mondale was a pitiful candidate. Reagan was FOS but we like our presidents to be FOS. Clinton and Reagan were masters of the spoken word. Ford, GHWB, and W. aren't even 2nd-class. Carter had the intelligence but was still an inferior communicator.

W. can't carry an intelligent conversation . . . proof Gore should be discarded since he made W. look reasonable. Unless W. learns how to read convincingly he's toast against candidates with real ideas and the ability to communicate them.
 

Dhruv

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Originally posted by: MrBond
(long post warning, damn I'm bad about that :))

we will never be safe from some suicide bomber strapped with tnt that rushes our president and sets off the bomb.
The President came to my college last september (the thursday before 9/11 acutally). That day, there were bomb sniffing dogs on campus, snipers (maybe just spotters?) on the roofs, and Secret Service agents on the roof of the residense hall tower (probably with a shoulder fired missle, but I couldn't see to confirm that). He gave a speech with the Mexican president at the basketball arena, to get in, you had to go through a metal detector and most men were patted down. This was just the checkpoint for the people getting into the stands. I have no idea what the security checkpoint to get out onto the floor was like.

Mind you this was PRE 9/11. I imagine it'd be very hard to get near enough to the president to hurt him today, and I for one am thankful for that. It'd be a devistating loss to the country.


Would you say the odds of someone able to successfully rush him with TNT is greater or less than the odds of nearly 20 islamic millitants, hijacking 5 planes at roughly the same time, crashing it into the Pentagon (mind you that very protected area), the world trade center, and in Washington, D.C. within a span of a couple hours?

Its VERY possible. What if one of the cops at the area where he is going to speak is an Islamic militant and jabs the President's throat with a screwdriver or something while he is walking near him? These crude attacks are absolutely impossible to prevent. Keep in mind many Muslims can easily pass for Anglo Saxons as well, so appearance doesn't make a difference. If our government really cares about our future, its a much better investment to try to understand other's grievances and make genuine efforts for world peace, instead of spending hundreds of billions on defense.
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Really????? How old were you in 1984????? Seems I recall nationwide unemployment at post WWII record levels and intrest rates as well.............the economy SUCKED.................still............who won that election and was president for a second term??????

Still not comparable to 2004. Mondale was a pitiful candidate. Reagan was FOS but we like our presidents to be FOS. Clinton and Reagan were masters of the spoken word. Ford, GHWB, and W. aren't even 2nd-class. Carter had the intelligence but was still an inferior communicator.

W. can't carry an intelligent conversation . . . proof Gore should be discarded since he made W. look reasonable. Unless W. learns how to read convincingly he's toast against candidates with real ideas and the ability to communicate them.
And who might they be?????? Hillary says no run in '04 since Gore has spoken up and so has Edwards & Daschle.......................who's going to come out of the woodwork to challenge competently????;)

 

MrBond

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Would you say the odds of someone able to successfully rush him with TNT is greater or less than the odds of nearly 20 islamic millitants, hijacking 5 planes at roughly the same time, crashing it into the Pentagon (mind you that very protected area), the world trade center, and in Washington, D.C. within a span of a couple hours?
I see what you mean. An assassin would be far more creative then I, because when he was at UT, I couldn't even think of a way to get up there and shake his hand :)
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Depends on how well people pay attention to what's going on behind the scenes and actually use their brain instead of calling him an idiot because he doesn't tell the American public absolutely everything that he's doing. Ya know, it really irks me how people say that he's such a bad President and how he can't manage anything. He's personally run a Fortune500 company and owned a major ball club and was successful at both. He's running the government like a business: like it was meant to be run and how it's supposed to be run.

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Cfour

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Kinda sucks that Bush came into the recession, it didnt just start because of him.. It seems like the Republicans are the only ones with enough balls to actually do something about emerging threats, instead of letting them grow. I hope he serves a 2nd term, one can only think what would be happening right now if Gore was in office...

Tony
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Cfour
Kinda sucks that Bush came into the recession, it didnt just start because of him.. It seems like the Republicans are the only ones with enough balls to actually do something about emerging threats, instead of letting them grow. I hope he serves a 2nd term, one can only think what would be happening right now if Gore was in office...

Tony

He'd be running with his tail between his legs because he doesn't have a wife like Clinton did to help out such a lamebrain. :)

nik
 

BaliBabyDoc

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He's personally run a Fortune500 company and owned a major ball club and was successful at both. He's running the government like a business: like it was meant to be run and how it's supposed to be run.

Not my fault Dave, he started it.

Bush owning a ball club = 5% interest. I guess the other 95% covered the minority partners. Do you know where he borrowed the money to buy into the Rangers? Do you know how the Rangers acquired the land for the stadium?

In 1986, Spectrum 7, a privately owned oil company chaired by Bush faced serious trouble. Two years earlier, Bush had merged his failing Bush Exploration Company (previously known as Arbusto--the Spanish word for shrub) with the profitable Spectrum 7, and he was named chief executive and director of the company. Bush was paid $75,000 a year and handed 1.1 million shares. Under this deal, Bush ended up owning about 15 percent of Spectrum 7. By the end of 1985, Spectrum's fortunes had reversed. With oil prices falling, the company was losing money and on the verge of collapse. To save the firm, Bush began negotiations to sell Spectrum 7 to Harken Energy, a large Dallas-based energy firm owned mostly by billionaire George Soros, Saudi businesman Abdullah Taha Baksh and the Harvard Management Corporation.
He certainly should be commended for not stopping with one business failure. He skillfully moved from one failure to the next.

Oil company shows weakness in Bush policy
In the United States, these false fears have been fed to the public by the coal industry lobby and by many electric power and oil companies. They back their claims by using the work of economists whose climate policy models assume that only a large energy tax -- the "magic bullet" that Browne decries -- will cut emissions. Not surprisingly, these abstract models project high costs, but they are diametrically opposed to BP's empirical evidence of what works and how much it will cost.
I doubt Bush would know anything about an oil company that makes money.

Can you say Harken?
Bush was a member of Harken's board when it reported a profit on the company-financed sale of a subsidiary to a group of Harken insiders. The SEC forced the company to amend its books to reflect millions of dollars in losses that had been hidden by the accounting practice.
Yep, run the country like a well-oiled machine.

"There was an honest difference of opinion. . . . Sometimes things aren't exactly black-and-white when it comes to accounting procedures," Bush said last Monday when asked about the accounting problems.

If you are going to contend Bush can effectively run a business stick with facts. The Rangers are technically a success but some argue it hinges on chicanery to acquire the land. Otherwise, success and GWB as an exec are not synonymous.




 

Dhruv

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Originally posted by: MrBond
Would you say the odds of someone able to successfully rush him with TNT is greater or less than the odds of nearly 20 islamic millitants, hijacking 5 planes at roughly the same time, crashing it into the Pentagon (mind you that very protected area), the world trade center, and in Washington, D.C. within a span of a couple hours?
I see what you mean. An assassin would be far more creative then I, because when he was at UT, I couldn't even think of a way to get up there and shake his hand :)


Mr. Bond, next time you see the president give a speech, or play host to a foreign dignitary, just see how many people are within 5 feet of him when he enters/exits the building where he is in. You see, average Americans do get near him and around him. I'm not saying you even have to think of a way to shake the mans hand. Just being within a few feet of him can provide the opportunity for a trained person to kill him within seconds. Anyways, we have to keep in mind who are enemies are. Groups such as Al Qaeda can definitely pull off a successfull assasination as we have seen how organized, disciplined, well connected, funded, trained, and gutsy they are. Will there be people who hated us if we started playing Mother Theresa or Gandhi from tommorow onward? Of course, but there won't be hundreds of millions of them.
 

Dhruv

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Originally posted by: idNut
He choked on a pretzel. Got my vote. Always chew your food.

Hey, thats not fair! Any major world leader could have choked on a pretzel, fell off of his couch, and become unconcious for a second. It happens to the best of us.
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: Dhruv
Originally posted by: idNut
He choked on a pretzel. Got my vote. Always chew your food.

Hey, thats not fair! Any major world leader could have choked on a pretzel, fell off of his couch, and become unconcious for a second. It happens to the best of us.
That's not that bad!;) Did you know on average 100 people choke to death on ball point pens each year????????:Q
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Jugernot

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Originally posted by: NFS4
I was thinking of what happened with this dad with Desert Storm and the downturn in the economy over a decade ago, and the mirrored effects that are happening now as George W. is leading us into battle against Saddam again...

Do you think his gamble will pay off in the end, or do you think that he will end up failing the public and regulated to a one time go at the presidency?

Simple answer, no.
 

BlueApple

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

He'd be running with his tail between his legs because he doesn't have a wife like Clinton did to help out such a lamebrain. :)

nik
You're absolutely right.





He has Cheney.