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Do you think Michael Jackson will make it? (poll)

Booster

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It would be great if I could discuss this with someone. Frankly speaking, I think MJ is guilty. However, that's not the question. People of his scale and money just don't go to jail like everybody else, at least that happens very rarely. Remember when Winona Ryder was caught for shoplifting and found guilty? She didn't do the time in jail, however, like any other ordinary person would.

To back this up, I have to point out one glaring fact that, unlike any other criminal accused of crimes for which he could easily go to jail for 60+ years, MJ isn't in jail. He's still a free man, like you and me, and is confident and from his latest pic in glasses and suit I can tell he doesn't give a crap about all that trial thing. He's so rich and famous it's almost unbelievable he can actually do the time.

What do you think will happen to him? (see poll)
 

KarenMarie

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I dont think he is guilty.

I kinda grew up with him. He was an child star/idol while I was a kid. I am not a die hard fan or anything, but have loosely followed his career and the weirdness in his personal life.

i think that MJ thinks he has a higher calling. I think that he adores children. I think that he loves them, but sex never comes into it. He will hold a child's face in his hands, kiss him and tell him he loves him and it would not be about sex. He would hold a child close and sleep while sleeping in the same bed and it will not be about sex. And with all the ppl who try to tell him that it is not socially acceptable, he just thinks they dont get it.

I dont think he is guilty of any sexual crime against any child what so ever.
But I think he is definately a few glitters short of a full twinkle.
:)
 

DanTMWTMP

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i really don't think he's giulty. He was just adoring the kid.

and the kid's messed up dad just wants money. He knew that his kid was w/ MJ, and just stuffed words into the kids mouth.

The credibility of the kid's family is sh!t...
 

Booster

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and the kid's messed up dad just wants money

I think this messed up dad doesn't want money, that's why the whole trouble. It's difficult to believe that all that hype is because of some innocent stuff, actually.
 

Wallydraigle

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I don't know enough about the situation to come to any kind of intelligent conclusion concerning his guilt. My gut feeling is that he did it, but I just feel that way because the TV tells me to. It's not based on anything.

I don't think he'll be found guilty though.
 

Ryan

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I too believe that he is being taken advantage of. MJ is a naive, childish recluse, but I don't believe he is a child molester. When I read the news story about the kid's parents claiming that their kids were sexually abused by a JCPenny's security guard as they were ALL caught shoplifting a few years ago, they lost all credibility in my eyes.

Yea, Jacko is a Whacko, but he isn't a child molester.
 

KarenMarie

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Little known facts are:

The kid and his mom were arrested for shoplifting in JC Penny. The security guard kept them in a room while waiting for the police. A few days after, the mother filed suit againt JC Penny and the Security Company for molesing her child while he was in that room.

Apparently (and I just saw this on the news), someone got the mother on tape saying that MJ washer new cash cow and she was gonna milk him dry, or else.

MJ gave the mother and rest of the family money, vacations, shopping sprees... etc.. and every time the mother wanted more, she threatened to take the kid away and MJ would never see him again. (Every vacation this kids stayed with MJ and the mom had her own room rental car, etc and it never made her worried before) and when MJ and his ppl finally had enough and cut her $$$ off, she made these allegations.

The CA child protection agency had MJ under survellance (investigations etc) during the time the kid alleged this to happen and they found NO BASIS for the charges to be maintained.

THe CA DA has a hard on for MJ ever since he walked away from the last kid who alleged something happened 10yrs ago.

Now, I am not expert or anything, but look at the amount of kids who have stayed in Neverland. To have only two allegations that were credible enough to bring charges in 10yrs says a lot considering who they were brought by. Also, patterns to pediophile tend to... well, progress.. not lay dormant for 10yrs.

I think he is definately touched in the head, but he loves children with an innocense that does not include sex.
 

Booster

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I think he'll do the time.

Naaah. He would be awaiting the trial in jail then (general rule in such cases, I believe).
 

Booster

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Originally posted by: kalster
jacko the whacko will do some time

Yep. Like 60 years. I wonder what it feels like when some people confiscate your billion $ fortune and put you in a tiny, stinking prison cell and keep you there until you die on your own.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: Booster
Originally posted by: kalster
jacko the whacko will do some time

Yep. Like 60 years. I wonder what it feels like when some people confiscate your billion $ fortune and put you in a tiny, stinking prison cell and keep you there until you die on your own.

Will have to ask Saddam that, think MJ wasted most of his money already.
 

Kelvrick

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: Booster
Originally posted by: kalster
jacko the whacko will do some time

Yep. Like 60 years. I wonder what it feels like when some people confiscate your billion $ fortune and put you in a tiny, stinking prison cell and keep you there until you die on your own.

Will have to ask Saddam that, think MJ wasted most of his money already.

Doesn't he already owe like a quarter billion?
 

myusername

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Tough to say. While the "famous" might help, I don't think there's going to be any "rich" part to the equation.

If you read the blurb about his lawyers quitting, you will note that Jacko's publicist(?) made some comment to the effect that Jackson admired his new laywer for the pro bono work he has done for the black community. Everyone was all on how the laywers quitting showed that he was guilty etc., but imho, I think it was probably that they realized their client wouldn't be able to pay.
 

KarenMarie

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Net worth $750 million
Spends approx 1.2 million per month.
Borrowed $188 million from Sony against the Beatles Catalogue.
Released on $3 million bond.

This does not include legal bills.
His problem is not that he does not have money. His problem is that he is spending spending spending and not earning at all.

:)
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Net worth $750 million
Spends approx 1.2 million per month.
Borrowed $188 million from Sony against the Beatles Catalogue.
Released on $3 million bond.

This does not include legal bills.
His problem is not that he does not have money. His problem is that he is spending spending spending and not earning at all.

:)

Are you kidding - I'd imagine he makes enough in royalty rights from the beatles collection and his own music worldwide to cover most of his expenses.
 

flexy

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He'll be found not guilty despite all the evidence.
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your poll sucks.

Your only option for 'not guilty' implies that there is 'evidence'. If you're so biased then better dont make a poll at all.

Please provide us with 'the evidence'....

I personally think that he is not guilty, not guilty at all.

What is more likely ?

a) That a person highly visible to the public and media keeps doing something (raping/molesting children) which which would put him in serious trouble sooner or later...
OR
b) that a [rich] person highly visible to media constantly gets accused and sued for the sake of making money off his (former) success

sorry, b) is MUCH more likely...

I am not into any details of the current trial and the 'evidence' youre talking about (which i highly doubt even exists).....keep in mind we're living in a country where 8 year olds get sued for sexual harassment and other bizarre things...and we have plenty of people who lie everywhere they just can if there is a slight chance that their lies clould bring them any money...

MJ might be a weirdo, but my gut-feelign really says that there is nothing to accusations of 'molestations" whatsoever - the whole thing just gets pushed by the media because it is a great emotional 'story' which sells in the tabloids...."child molestation" which is an extreme taboo and therefore an excellent 'story'.

Perfext example how the media totally destroy a person/his career. :(

I might remind you that there were (and already have been) bizarre, often fabricated stories and myths about MJ, long *before* the 'molestation stuff' was even an issue...basically ever since he got famous.

If he really turns out innocent (which i think will be the case) and he really did NOT do anything (besides 'normal' excentric/odd celebrity behavior) ....then maybe it is time some people rethink what they actually get fed every time by the media and how easy it is to manipulate the common people. (Eg. an emotional story ALWAYS touches and manipulates because it generates, well, emotions... anger, outrage, hate etc.... which are far easier to work with than logical thinking and reasoning. Many people call MJ
'child molester' because it feels 'good' to show the own outrage over such a thing as child-molestation - but who of these people actually really knows that he IS a child-molester and the accusations are in fact true ?

And it is also NOT more legit to accuse him because he is a celebrity and might have more money than the average guy...do people really think he keeps 'grabbing' kids somewhere/inviting them to his estate and then molest them...because 'he has so much money and keeps doing that for such a long time...and now its finally time they get this pervert and stop him in his doings etc..etc..etc..." <--- dont you see what a BAD, BAD fabricated urban myth that actually is ???

(No, i am not an MJ 'fan' in particular btw.)