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Do you think it's fair for foreign students to come here, study, then go back home?

oiprocs

oiprocs

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I've always wondered how others felt about student visas. Personally, I think education is good no matter who benefits.

But I sometimes feel that those students come in and live off the fat of the land while learning valuable tools (which in this case is a degree, whether it be bachelors or medical), then use those tools to improve some other piece of land, are essentially contributing zero to the US. Ya dig?

What do you think?
 
International tuition is more expensive at my school then out of state (Georgia Tech).
 
Originally posted by: Crono
They pay for it. We get same privilege to get education at their countries. What's the problem?
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It depends on the school. A lot of graduate programs have started promising graduate assistantships to students who come from other countries because of the diversity in culture that they offer. There are a number of students from India studying in my program who go here for free because of these GA positions and thus disqualify someone like myself from getting one.
 
Depends, the international tuition is much higher than in-state and out-of-state. But at the same time, some international students are getting grants or scholarships. It kind of sucks to see this money going to non-Americans, but not all of it is public money anyways

You must remember America is a land of immigrants and some of the most intelligent Americans came from overseas. Giving money to the best and brightest students from different countries is going to help America. Yah, some may return to their home countries, but many are also staying contributing where Americans may not have been able to contribute.
 
Originally posted by: Pegun
Originally posted by: Crono
They pay for it. We get same privilege to get education at their countries. What's the problem?
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It depends on the school. A lot of graduate programs have started promising graduate assistantships to students who come from other countries because of the diversity in culture that they offer. There are a number of students from India studying in my program who go here for free because of these GA positions and thus disqualify someone like myself from getting one.
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Well, if the school thinks they are receiving some benefit, that's fine, if they want to foot the bill. Do they pay for food and housing, as well? That's a pretty sweet deal if they do.
 
Originally posted by: txrandom
Depends, the international tuition is much higher than in-state and out-of-state. But at the same time, some international students are getting grants or scholarships. It kind of sucks to see this money going to non-Americans, but not all of it is public money anyways

You must remember America is a land of immigrants and some of the most intelligent Americans came from overseas. Giving money to the best and brightest students from different countries is going to help America. Yah, some may return to their home countries, but many are also staying contributing where Americans may not have been able to contribute.
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Agree with this completely.
 
First of all, get this nationalistic dumbfuckery out of your head. Just because someone foreign is educated here, doesn't mean they won't be productive to a certain American company, or vice versa, or to society in general. The world is expanding, growing outward, who is to say what education they get would not benefit this country, let alone the world?

It's like saying the NATO troops in Iraq and Afghanistan aren't protecting the U.S. because 'they're not on U.S. soil.'

The only issue I do have, while we're on the subject, is educating Muslim extremists who go back to their country, and then seek to devise ways into which to terrorize us.
 
Enough of them stay that it's totally worth it.

This is more of a gray area for a school like the Indian Institute of Technology.

It's easily one of the very best technical undergraduate programs in the world. Mostly state funded. And the majority of it's graduates leave the country for greener pastures. Why should the state fund the flight of it's smartest individuals?

It's great for us Americans, though, we get brilliant, motivated, educated people for free!
 
I really don't understand the value of "us vs. them" thinking. The whole idea that international students are taking places that could be filled by Americans or that those international students will not benefit the United States after graduation is bullshit, imo. Having said that, the only issue I have with international students attending American schools is when it is a state school and taxpayers are paying for part of the education. Of course, I also don't think taxpayers should be forced to pay for the college education of other Americans, so my complaint is more of a an issue with government spending (it is at the bottom of my list of things to complain about, though).
 
Originally posted by: Pegun
Originally posted by: Crono
They pay for it. We get same privilege to get education at their countries. What's the problem?
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It depends on the school. A lot of graduate programs have started promising graduate assistantships to students who come from other countries because of the diversity in culture that they offer. There are a number of students from India studying in my program who go here for free because of these GA positions and thus disqualify someone like myself from getting one.
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DEY TOOK YER JERB!
 
there have been some pretty significant people in the middle east who attended university in the US or Europe and then took western values back home with them.
 
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: nerp
If you're against it you should be against Americans studying abroad.
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Yeah, but studying abroad is a 1-2 semester thing.
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Not always. You can get an edu visa and go to college full time. I have many friends who did this.
 
what i don't understand is people who want to force them to go back home by revoking their visas.
 
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