Do you think its a bad thing most kids today won't remember what happened at Ruby Ridge?

[spacelord]

35 and didn't really know what Ruby Ridge was.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: GRIFFIN1
Click here to watch a video about Waco.

This video was definately not made by the ATF. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the "facts" aren't true.

Rent this video from netflix if you want to see more stuff about how evil the government is. Again, this documentarty isn't "fair and balanced", but it goes into even more detail on what the government did wrong and how they covered things up.

Marked for later

 

[FoBoT]

tinfoil hat wearer unite

 

[AgentUnknown]

I am 28 and haven't heard about Ruby Ridge. Why should this be taught in schools?

 

[Minjin]

I was aware of Ruby Ridge before, but seeing Arlington Road solidified it for me...(no, I don't get my history from movies)

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[imported_Trippin315]

I was 12 at the time. I had to look it up on wikipedia and even then I only remembered it sort of.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

while I understand the importance of history, I'm unconvinced about the 'importance' of Ruby Ridge. I'd be more worried about Waco, or the Unabomber

 

[LtPage1]

I'm a 19 year old first year history major in college, and I'd never heard of it until I looked it up on Wikipedia just now. Seems to me like a pretty disgusting exhibition of bureacratic incompetency and federal willingness to subvert the Constitution for its own ends. I've little sympathy for the white supremacist, but it's sh!tty that his wife and kids were caught in the middle.

So, I think it's a bad thing that too many people blindly trust the goverment to lawfully act in their interests, but Ruby Ridge in itself isn't necessarily the important part- just a symbol and rallying point for the real issues at hand.

 

[Udel]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
tinfoil hat wearer unite

I love how people like to undermine serious things with spam comments.

 

[igowerf]

I know about Waco, but not Ruby Ridge. I had to look it up on Wikipedia. I was 9 when it happened, but I don't remember hearing about it.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: AgentUnknown
I am 28 and haven't heard about Ruby Ridge. Why should this be taught in schools?

Because it was one of the first cases that anti-government nutjobs brayed about in the 90's.

 

[hg321]

 

[imported_Stew]

Originally posted by: Falcon39
Ruby Ridge?

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: ryan256
Hell... I'd bet most people here have no idea what happened at Ruby Ridge and will have to google it. The incident was a very trajic event in which federal agents grossly overstepped their bounds and murdered 2 innocent people. One of them a 14 y/o boy.

My recollection is a bunch of idiots killed a deputy because one of the idiots didn't appear in court when required too. Then a couple of the idiot's family got shot instead of surrendering.

 

[JDrake]

"It is disputed between the ATF and Weaver as to who exactly shortened the buttstock to 3/8 below the minimum legal overall length of 28 inches."

lol buttstock

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: AgentUnknown
I am 28 and haven't heard about Ruby Ridge. Why should this be taught in schools?

Because it was one of the first cases that anti-government nutjobs brayed about in the 90's.

Belief that the government is not above the law or the constitution is not anti-government.

 

[Udel]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: AgentUnknown
I am 28 and haven't heard about Ruby Ridge. Why should this be taught in schools?

Because it was one of the first cases that anti-government nutjobs brayed about in the 90's.

Belief that the government is not above the law or the constitution is not anti-government.

:thumbsup:

 

[ballmode]

Society will change in the next 50 years big time imo.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: ballmode
Society will change in the next 50 years big time imo.

i agree. and not for the better

 

[her209]

Forget Ruby Ridge... what about the Mystic Massacre?

 

[fishjie]

hmm i had no clue what ruby ridge was. i googled it. seems pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things. i think more important was what they did in cuba. or the filipines. or south america. or vietnam. or iraq. etc.

i mean the government killed/screwed over an innocent person. that happened on a way larger scale in the countries i just listed. they had it way worse. ruby ridge? not to sound callous, but in the grand scale of american history, who cares? how is this incident any worse than any of the injustices that have occured throughout the course of american history?