Do you think harddrives will be replaced with solid state storage in the relative future?

deftron

Lifer
Nov 17, 2000
10,868
1
0
I'm sure it will happen eventually, but it may be sooner than expected.

Right now, the capacity for both is increasing rapidly, but with the 100's of gigabytes
of storage available on hard drives.. most people probably dont use that (except MP3 or porn junkies)

If you could get a computer with say 30 to 40 GB of solid state storage and it was way faster
than hard drives would you do it?

You could always get a removable harddrive to plug in for stuff that takes up a lot of space, but
not always being in your computer will make it not only quieter, but the OS drive much faster.

I think we will start to see this within a couple years..
 

chiwawa626

Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
12,013
0
0
Id get it for the partition with my OS and programs on it...then storage on a regular prolly...
 

amnesiac

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
15,781
1
71
Well the way alternative storage media is going, I wouldn't be surprised if solid state gave way to optical or some other ultra-dense storage method.
 

Marshallj

Platinum Member
Mar 26, 2003
2,326
0
76
Originally posted by: deftron
I'm sure it will happen eventually, but it may be sooner than expected.

Right now, the capacity for both is increasing rapidly, but with the 100's of gigabytes
of storage available on hard drives.. most people probably dont use that (except MP3 or porn junkies)

If you could get a computer with say 30 to 40 GB of solid state storage and it was way faster
than hard drives would you do it?

You could always get a removable harddrive to plug in for stuff that takes up a lot of space, but
not always being in your computer will make it not only quieter, but the OS drive much faster.

I think we will start to see this within a couple years..

I doubt it, at least for now.

Hard drives hold much more data, are cheaper, and are faster. Although using a big flash drive would be neat, it doesn't have anywhere near the practicality of a hard drive.

The kind of memory that you're thinking of (the kind that retains the data even after turning the power off) is called flash memory, and its throughput is pretty low. Not anything close to a hard drive.
 

melly

Diamond Member
Feb 5, 2002
3,612
0
0
in the relative future? why would i want to replace it with a family member!??
bwhahaha. ;)
 

Deeko

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
30,213
12
81
Originally posted by: caramel
in the relative future? why would i want to replace it with a family member!??
bwhahaha. ;)

hhahah oh melly....you just dont even know what you're saying anymore :p;)
 

toant103

Lifer
Jul 21, 2001
10,514
1
0
Originally posted by: deftron
I'm sure it will happen eventually, but it may be sooner than expected.

Right now, the capacity for both is increasing rapidly, but with the 100's of gigabytes
of storage available on hard drives.. most people probably dont use that (except MP3 or porn junkies)

If you could get a computer with say 30 to 40 GB of solid state storage and it was way faster
than hard drives would you do it?

You could always get a removable harddrive to plug in for stuff that takes up a lot of space, but
not always being in your computer will make it not only quieter, but the OS drive much faster.

I think we will start to see this within a couple years..


i just want a 5GB solid state disk. Instant boot up

 

Atlantean

Diamond Member
May 2, 2001
5,296
1
0
I might get one for my os and games, but for storage I will be using regular hdd's untill the size of solid state drives is higher.
 

technogeeky

Golden Member
Dec 13, 2000
1,438
0
0
I was thinking about this the other day. I dont think the cost of solid state is anywhere the cost of current technology, so I'd expect that it would not be a good replacment.
 

FoBoT

No Lifer
Apr 30, 2001
63,084
15
81
fobot.com
i think it will be in the relative later

ie , it will happen , but not for some time, mechanical storage will be cheaper for some time, my wild guess is mechanical storage will be king for another 10-15 years
 

FeathersMcGraw

Diamond Member
Oct 17, 2001
4,041
1
0
Originally posted by: deftron

Right now, the capacity for both is increasing rapidly, but with the 100's of gigabytes
of storage available on hard drives.. most people probably dont use that (except MP3 or porn junkies)

There will always be a hierarchy of storage whose capacity is inversely proportional to its speed. The truth of the matter is that as larger capacities become available, people will use them (if nothing else, software developers will, which drives consumers to do so).

I also imagine that in terms of the mass market, people are less concerned about access speed than capacity (which is why people still opt for cheaper 5400 rpm drives over 7200 or 10K ones).
 

benliong

Golden Member
Jun 25, 2000
1,153
0
0
Originally posted by: toant103
Originally posted by: deftron
I'm sure it will happen eventually, but it may be sooner than expected.

Right now, the capacity for both is increasing rapidly, but with the 100's of gigabytes
of storage available on hard drives.. most people probably dont use that (except MP3 or porn junkies)

If you could get a computer with say 30 to 40 GB of solid state storage and it was way faster
than hard drives would you do it?

You could always get a removable harddrive to plug in for stuff that takes up a lot of space, but
not always being in your computer will make it not only quieter, but the OS drive much faster.

I think we will start to see this within a couple years..

i just want a 5GB solid state disk. Instant boot up

Amen
 

Marshallj

Platinum Member
Mar 26, 2003
2,326
0
76
The solid state drives that you guys are talking about are not as fast as hard drives. Not even close. You're confusing RAM with Flash memory. You can't use RAM for a hard drive because when you turn it off, you'll lose all your data. You'll need to use flash memory, which retains the info even when the power is off, but it's slow.
 

Demon-Xanth

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
20,551
2
81
Limitations:
1: Sheer capacity. Magentic media has alot higher capacity
2: Cost. Magnetics have a much larger GB/$ ratio
3: Rewritability+non-volitility. Flash based drives wouldn't last a day w/ a swap file. And RAM based ones don't have the non-volitility that would be required.
 

BooGiMaN

Diamond Member
Jul 5, 2001
7,955
0
0
i doubt it, they are cheaper than they used to be but i priced them recently for a project i am doing and for 147Gb they are about $50k i doubt if even our Rossman can bring that down with rebates or coupons..
 

FoBoT

No Lifer
Apr 30, 2001
63,084
15
81
fobot.com
CDW lists a few

Compaq 1GB for $20k-no info

Quantum 1GB for $20k-more info

Quantum Rushmore Ultra Series Solid State Disks (SSDs) are the optimum solution for a growing number of mission-critical applications that demand lightning fast I/O performance. This includes everything from ultra-high-volume transaction processing, RAID subsystems, and data warehousing to video-on-demand and Internet/intranet servers.



Access Time

Access Time: 50 ms
Data Transfer Rate

Data Transfer Rate: 30 MB
 

pulse8

Lifer
May 3, 2000
20,860
1
81
If you could get a computer with say 30 to 40 GB of solid state storage and it was way faster than hard drives would you do it?

If it was available for a decent price, why WOULDN'T I do it?
 

dquan97

Lifer
Jul 9, 2002
12,010
3
0
Originally posted by: FoBoT
CDW lists a few

Compaq 1GB for $20k-no info

Quantum 1GB for $20k-more info

Quantum Rushmore Ultra Series Solid State Disks (SSDs) are the optimum solution for a growing number of mission-critical applications that demand lightning fast I/O performance. This includes everything from ultra-high-volume transaction processing, RAID subsystems, and data warehousing to video-on-demand and Internet/intranet servers.



Access Time

Access Time: 50 ms
Data Transfer Rate

Data Transfer Rate: 30 MB

any coupons? PM?
 

dquan97

Lifer
Jul 9, 2002
12,010
3
0
Originally posted by: FoBoT
CDW lists a few

Compaq 1GB for $20k-no info

Quantum 1GB for $20k-more info

Quantum Rushmore Ultra Series Solid State Disks (SSDs) are the optimum solution for a growing number of mission-critical applications that demand lightning fast I/O performance. This includes everything from ultra-high-volume transaction processing, RAID subsystems, and data warehousing to video-on-demand and Internet/intranet servers.



Access Time

Access Time: 50 ms
Data Transfer Rate

Data Transfer Rate: 30 MB

doublepost
 

csiro

Golden Member
May 31, 2001
1,261
0
0

1 G for $20k? Way too expensive. Isn't it alot cheaper to simply buy 1G DDR Ram for $140 hook it up to some sort of memory/HD controller. For memory protection, use a battery backup system and get a 2nd set of memory in a raid like setup in case the 1st set fails.