Do you think Data would have gone gay for an episode?

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IIRC, in an episode, Data explained that while he couldn't not create babies, he was "fully functional" for recreational sex. He was seduced and had sex with Tasha Yar when she was intoxicated by polywater. With more acceptance of of gays and Data's quest to learn about and become more human, would Data have tried his hand at a homosexual experience?
 
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If he believed in recreational sex, yes.
If he believed in sex for procreation, no.

In either case, feel free to fantasize about him while masturbating.
 
her209

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oldsmoboat said:
If he believed in recreational sex, yes.
If he believed in sex for procreation, no.

In either case, feel free to fantasize about him while masturbating.
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His creator believed in it which is why he gave Data the tools and programmed the techniques. And since Data is always striving to be more human, why not? Data also believe in procreation, which is why he built an offispring (daughter) in one episode.
 
AstroManLuca

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There are no gays in Star Trek

Except that one episode of DS9 where Dax kissed her former wife, but that wasn't really gay
 
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Yeah, I'd say that would be in his character in an experimental sense. They had a multi-racial crew but sexual orientation was left alone.

I found this excerpt on Wikipedia:
[The longtime debate over whether Star Trek should include a gay character reached a head with Enterprise, as there were some rumors that the character Malcolm Reed would be gay, though these rumors turned out to be untrue. In a 2002 interview with Metrosource, actor Scott Bakula (who played Captain Jonathan Archer) expressed his support for the idea as had the TNG actors Patrick Stewart and Jonathan Frakes in the 1990s. In the interview Bakula said:
"I'm not really familiar with the history of this particular issue with regards to Star Trek; in fact, the first I ever heard of it was at our first junket when somebody asked if there was going to be an opportunity for a gay or lesbian character on the show. I was surprised at the question, because I had just assumed that over the course of the years that it had been addressed. I was surprised it was even an issue. Since then I haven't sat down with Rick and Brannon [Braga, co-creator and executive producer of Star Trek: Enterprise] to discuss it. It does seem awkward [that nothing has ever happened]. I haven't heard anything coming down the pipeline, but I would be in favor of it. I would hope it would be handled in a great way. It would be wonderful, in my opinion, if it was not such a huge issue, but was just there."
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Whoopi Goldberg (Guinan) in 2008


In a 1990 episode about Data's attempt to procreate, "The Offspring," Data creates Lal, an android daughter, and the other crew members seek to explain humanoid sexuality to Lal. According to TNG research consultant Richard Arnold, Whoopi Goldberg changed her character's dialog from a strictly heterosexual explanation to a gender-neutral version:
According to the script, Guinan was supposed to start telling Lal, "When a man and a woman are in love ..." and in the background, there would be men and women sitting at tables, holding hands[...] But Whoopi refused to say that. She said, "This show is beyond that. It should be 'When two people are in love.'"[17]
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Brannon Braga in 2011 spoke about the
"...constant back and forth about well how do we portray the spectrum of sexuality. There were people who felt very strongly that we should be showing casually, you know, just two guys together in the background in Ten Forward. At the time the decision was made not to do that and I think those same people would make a different decision now because I think, you know, that was 1989, well yeah about 89, 90, 91. I have no doubt that those same creative players wouldn’t feel so hesitant to have, you know, have been squeamish about a decision like that."
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Suggesting that TNG in particular was under pressure from affiliates to be a "family show", Braga characterized the decision not to include LGBT characters as "not a forward thinking decision". Braga alluded to some episodes of TNG and one DS9 episode featuring Dax as dealing with non-heterosexuality metaphorically.]


Source:


Sexuality In Star Trek


Wikipedia


 
SagaLore

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There was an episode where there was a planet of all women who essentially had "lesbian" relationships and procreation. Riker and one of the "women" got it on until she was re-brainwashed.
 
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her209 said:
IIRC, in an episode, Data explained that while he couldn't not create babies, he was "fully functional" for recreational sex. He was seduced and had sex with Tasha Yar when she was intoxicated by polywater. With more acceptance of of gays and Data's quest to learn about and become more human, would Data have tried his hand at a homosexual experience?
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No, the Star Trek universe would implode if Data had man love. Everyone knows this.
 
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SagaLore said:
There was an episode where there was a planet of all women who essentially had "lesbian" relationships and procreation. Riker and one of the "women" got it on until she was re-brainwashed.
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Or the episode where Wesley's about to get executed for committing a crime on the planet where everyone is thinly dressed and constantly jogging/running.
 
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IndyColtsFan said:
I always wondered just how close Geordi and Data really were.
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Geordi was constantly trying to get with the ladies, he was just really bad at it.

Or maybe he was just putting on a show because he was trying to cover up his true feelings?

And don't forget...

George&
 
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her209 said:
With more acceptance of of gays and Data's quest to learn about and become more human, would Data have tried his hand at a homosexual experience?
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I see Data and our HAL as more similar than many of you here would ever like to admit, so, sure.

Despite the hysterical denials of the fundies, homosexuality is yet another "human" emotion/desire/proclivity in that a not insignificant sub-set of humans experience/possess it.

Since Data is primarily "logical" and presumably not beset by roiling human undercurrents of fear, defensive loathing, and embarrassment, I believe he'd consider a homosexual experience to be on a par with a heterosexual one and indeed, any sexual experience as being essentially no different than any other experience a human might have -- in short, he wouldn't be hung up about trying it at all.

As a supremely logical unit, he'd see no insuperable barrier to putting his unit into any fitting and willing receptacle. :awe:
 
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Perknose said:
I see Data and our HAL as more similar than many of you here would ever like to admit, so, sure.

Despite the hysterical denials of the fundies, homosexuality is yet another "human" emotion/desire/proclivity in that a not insignificant sub-set of humans experience/possess it.

Since Data is primarily "logical" and presumably not beset by roiling human undercurrents of fear, defensive loathing, and embarrassment, I believe he'd consider a homosexual experience to be on a par with a heterosexual one and indeed, any sexual experience as being essentially no different than any other experience a human might have -- in short, he wouldn't be hung up about trying it at all.

As a supremely logical unit, he'd see no insuperable barrier to putting his unit into any fitting and willing receptacle. :awe:
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Furthermore, he could argue that since he is incapable of procreating through sex anyway, there is no natural reason why he should prefer women over men as sexual partners.
 
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CallMeJoe said:
I would wonder more about Riker; he seemed to have that "anything with an appropriate orifice" tendency.
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Riker was trying to get into a hologram's panties while the ship was being stolen by the Binars. Picard was no better.
 
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