Do you think any paid political posters are members here?

[Kazukian]

Just curious, this has been a fairly tech savvy election on both sides, both have been accused of having paid shills.

 

[IEC]

Well, one has spent $6M+ on "Correct the Record"

It's definitely a possibility that there are paid shills. But in politics, enough people are hypnotized that you don't need to pay them to shill for you. I doubt Trump has to pay anyone to shitpost for him. He just does it and his followers follow the example.

 

[Kazukian]

That's the group I was thinking of.

Is that your dog in your avatar? GR?

 

[hal2kilo]

I haven't seen the usual suspects show up this season.

There are plenty of zealots out there anyway that make it seem so sometimes.

 

[vi edit]

Well, one has spent $6M+ on "Correct the Record"

It's definitely a possibility that there are paid shills. But in politics, enough people are hypnotized that you don't need to pay them to shill for you. I doubt Trump has to pay anyone to shitpost for him. He just does it and his followers follow the example.

Not here, but there's some evidence that a bunch of Russian accounts are a sizable number of his "twitter army".

 

[IronWing]

We're pretty small potatoes here. I would think paid shills would go for bigger audiences. Maybe spend the day pinning pics of Trump's small hands or Clinton leaning.

It would be an okay job. I'd probably make sport of how dumb I could go. "Clinton used OJ's knife as a hair pin." "Trump stands on still-warm dead body at campaign rally."

 

[Perknose]

We're pretty small potatoes here. I would think paid shills would go for bigger audiences.

^^^ This.

 

[biostud]

Would it even work?

How many in here have changed their opinions after a debate (aka. flamewar) in here?

 

[MongGrel]

We're pretty small potatoes here. I would think paid shills would go for bigger audiences. Maybe spend the day pinning pics of Trump's small hands or Clinton leaning.

It would be an okay job. I'd probably make sport of how dumb I could go. "Clinton used OJ's knife as a hair pin." "Trump stands on still-warm dead body at campaign rally."

I doubt any paid shills are hanging out in here myself, most people on AT forums are not going to be easily swayed one way or another.

That and the mods here are smart enough they'd probably do a whack a mole number on them.

I'm not kissing up, just a fact I've been crushed myself now and then over time, he he.

 

[Schmide]

The value of the game is certainly too low here. Paid ops go after much sheepier sites.

Edit: I would however pay money to see the pitch to corporate about how ATOT is vital to any campain.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Video card companies pay (or at least have paid) shills here, not political campaigns.

 

[Jaskalas]

How many in here have changed their opinions after a debate (aka. flamewar) in here?

P&N was quite instrumental in teaching me of how little I had in common with the Republican establishment, and their Neocon foreign policy. Which is ironic given what happened since Bush, and what they continue to this day.
Moreover, there's the stimulus which... as a temporary band-aid, worked quite well. I didn't think they'd inflate the bubble for so long. Still has to pop though.... There's Muslim's place in society and the issue with illegals where a hardline stance has been blunted by listening to the opposition.

The value of the internet is exposure to new ideas. Even if humanity is not entirely ready for them yet.
Honest people can perhaps absorb some information and, later, find better positions.

 

[stormkroe]

Probably not but I could name some people on both sides that certainly deserve to be compensated. It's like the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, only more fat and basement-y.

 

[DrPizza]

I recall some of the members in P&N having a fit a year or two ago when as a moderator action, I provided information about where a poster was posting from - Russia. Technically, it's against the TOS to release a poster's personal information, but I considered the case different, since it was obviously a propagandist type of poster.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's an interesting question. It's hard to tell the difference between deliberately obtuse & paid propaganda. We have recurring discussions about different issues in which participants are corrected as to the facts. As new threads on the same subject emerge they'll make the same assertion all over again as if the previous thread never existed. They'll continue for months or even years, never acknowledging the facts. That's a standard propaganda technique.

The raving concern trolling Bernie Bros are also highly suspect, particularly when their Hillary hate talking points were last found at Breitbart or similar. We've seen a couple come & go over the course of the election season.

 

[MongGrel]

P&N was quite instrumental in teaching me of how little I had in common with the Republican establishment, and their Neocon foreign policy. Which is ironic given what happened since Bush, and what they continue to this day.
Moreover, there's the stimulus which... as a temporary band-aid, worked quite well. I didn't think they'd inflate the bubble for so long. Still has to pop though.... There's Muslim's place in society and the issue with illegals where a hardline stance has been blunted by listening to the opposition.

The value of the internet is exposure to new ideas. Even if humanity is not entirely ready for them yet.
Honest people can perhaps absorb some information and, later, find better positions.

I'll agree with that, even though I disagree with you on issues many times.

 

[rommelrommel]

Would it even work?

How many in here have changed their opinions after a debate (aka. flamewar) in here?

The point of it isn't to convince the rabid to change their minds, it to influence the people who don't post much, and who don't have strong opinions. For trump, they would likely want to make his dumb ideas seem to be widely accepted.

 

[IEC]

Not here, but there's some evidence that a bunch of Russian accounts are a sizable number of his "twitter army".

Keep in mind that HRC also has a bunch of fake/bot/paid shill accounts on her Twitter/FB/etc follower list. These days it's part of being popular to pay to inflate your followers.

It's not expensive at all to gain 1000s or even hundreds of thousands of followers.

 

[TheGardener]

Hillary wants her shill's moneys worth. Can be paid on FB and Twitter. But here? I really doubt it.

 

[MongGrel]

Hillary wants her shill's moneys worth. Can be paid on FB and Twitter. But here? I really doubt it.

Speaking of zealots ...

 

[TheGardener]

Speaking of zealots ...

Ya, I didn't want to call you and others out. Well you are more mentally handicapped, so I should show some deference.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Just curious, this has been a fairly tech savvy election on both sides, both have been accused of having paid shills.

Only in their basement dreams of grandeur here at P&N.

 

[Guurn]

Without question they are here. I've seen more direct quotes from the correct the record playbook than is possible by chance. It's pretty bad. There really isn't any reason to post in this area of the forums since you aren't going to convince someone that is paid to spew crap. The sad thing is that almost anywhere you look that has any significant activity in their forums has the same thing going on. This is the ejection of the paid shill on the internet. Sure it has happened before, but nothing like it is now.

It's just a sad ejection cycle.

 

[JSt0rm]

we had paid shills posting in video forms here (rollo) so its not beyond the idea that we would have paid political posters.

 

[Capt Caveman]

we had paid shills posting in video forms here (rollo) so its not beyond the idea that we would have paid political posters.

Yes, for the 25 people that post here, I'm sure.