Do You Still Have Trust . . .

CaptnKirk

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Now after nearly 5 years of George W. Bush and his Advisors running the show,
how do you perceive their 'trustworthiness' in administering policy for you as a citizen.

Graze with the Sheep - or Run Free with the Lemmings.

 

RightIsWrong

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I put that I haven't trusted been proved right. This is not, per se, because I hate Bush (although I have grown to) but more b/c of my apathy towards pols in general. You have to show yourself worthy of trust. They have never done that IMHO.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I put that I haven't trusted been proved right. This is not, per se, because I hate Bush (although I have grown to) but more b/c of my apathy towards pols in general. You have to show yourself worthy of trust. They have never done that IMHO.

So much for restoring 'Honesty and Intergity' to the Whitehouse . . .

It's just baffling.

 
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Never have, never will. Smarmy liars, corporate lapdogs, basically somewhere between bile and the scum that gets wrung out of a mop.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I put that I haven't trusted been proved right. This is not, per se, because I hate Bush (although I have grown to) but more b/c of my apathy towards pols in general. You have to show yourself worthy of trust. They have never done that IMHO.

So much for restoring 'Honesty and Intergity' to the Whitehouse . . .

It's just baffling.

You think any politician can do that?

Bush Sr may have but he didnt get a 2nd term to screw it up.
Clinton was a failure from the word go. And the current admin is terrible at defining clear goals.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Genx87

You think any politician can do that?

Bush Sr may have but he didnt get a 2nd term to screw it up.
Clinton was a failure from the word go. And the current admin is terrible at defining clear goals.

There was more Honesty and Integrity in the Carter Administration than at any time since he left office.
The GOP had to undermine him and then use slandor to get 'Saint Reagan' into office by using the Nixon Slime Machine -
and they are still functioning behind the scenes of Bush II, the Musical Comedy.
Nixon in the 50's behind Ike - along with Joe McCarthy, are the root of Dirty Politics that plague us even today.
Learn from history.

 

dahunan

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I still don't understand why anyone should support a warmonger administration? He surrounded himself with neo-cons who want to use our military not as defenders but as aggressors.. fvck them all and I hope every PNAC member rots in hell
 

rickn

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sometimes I believe government is perceived as some sort of infallible institution, but they are liars, finagler's, and sell outs just like the rest of us..they just possess all the muscle to keep the masses under control.

as for Bush, I don't trust any of that clan, and that includes Jr. in the WH now.
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I put that I haven't trusted been proved right. This is not, per se, because I hate Bush (although I have grown to) but more b/c of my apathy towards pols in general. You have to show yourself worthy of trust. They have never done that IMHO.

So much for restoring 'Honesty and Intergity' to the Whitehouse . . .

It's just baffling.

You think any politician can do that?

Bush Sr may have but he didnt get a 2nd term to screw it up.
Clinton was a failure from the word go. And the current admin is terrible at defining clear goals.

How was Clinton a failure from the start? He and his administration did an execellent of job at dampering conflicts such as the Palenstine Conflict and the IRA Conflict "The Troubles".
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Genx87

You think any politician can do that?

Bush Sr may have but he didnt get a 2nd term to screw it up.
Clinton was a failure from the word go. And the current admin is terrible at defining clear goals.

There was more Honesty and Integrity in the Carter Administration than at any time since he left office.
The GOP had to undermine him and then use slandor to get 'Saint Reagan' into office by using the Nixon Slime Machine -
and they are still functioning behind the scenes of Bush II, the Musical Comedy.
Nixon in the 50's behind Ike - along with Joe McCarthy, are the root of Dirty Politics that plague us even today.
Learn from history.

Politics is a dirty business and has been for centuries.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I put that I haven't trusted been proved right. This is not, per se, because I hate Bush (although I have grown to) but more b/c of my apathy towards pols in general. You have to show yourself worthy of trust. They have never done that IMHO.

So much for restoring 'Honesty and Intergity' to the Whitehouse . . .

It's just baffling.

You think any politician can do that?

Bush Sr may have but he didnt get a 2nd term to screw it up.
Clinton was a failure from the word go. And the current admin is terrible at defining clear goals.

How was Clinton a failure from the start? He did an execellent job of ending hositities with the IRA and Palenstine-Isreali Conflict.

How many scandals a week came out of the whitehouse? And dont give me crap about it being a vast right wing conspiracy. Then the infamous BJ episode and him lying under oath.

Integrity with that administration was not even in their vocabulary. I dont care what he did with the Pally\Isreali situation which doesnt appear to be much to begin with. This thread is about integrity and trust.

 

rickn

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my favorite part of this poll

I Used to Trust Them, but No Longer Feel That They Are Trustworthy.
8 votes 25.81 (%)



Translation. I removed my blinders, and now I can see so clearly what sleezeball most politicians are. Now lets take our country back from the Chinese, Mexicans & Walmart
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Genx87

So much for restoring 'Honesty and Intergity' to the Whitehouse . . .

You think any politician can do that?

That's why the Sheeple must wake up and put a non-Politician in such as myself.[/quote]

non-politician fine, a delisional nut?

no thanks.
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I put that I haven't trusted been proved right. This is not, per se, because I hate Bush (although I have grown to) but more b/c of my apathy towards pols in general. You have to show yourself worthy of trust. They have never done that IMHO.

So much for restoring 'Honesty and Intergity' to the Whitehouse . . .

It's just baffling.

You think any politician can do that?

Bush Sr may have but he didnt get a 2nd term to screw it up.
Clinton was a failure from the word go. And the current admin is terrible at defining clear goals.

How was Clinton a failure from the start? He did an execellent job of ending hositities with the IRA and Palenstine-Isreali Conflict.

How many scandals a week came out of the whitehouse? And dont give me crap about it being a vast right wing conspiracy. Then the infamous BJ episode and him lying under oath.

Integrity with that administration was not even in their vocabulary. I dont care what he did with the Pally\Isreali situation which doesnt appear to be much to begin with. This thread is about integrity and trust.

Apparenlty you can't even read and/or comprehend my post, please answer my question.

How was Clinton a failure from the start?
 

Genx87

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Apparenlty you can't even read and/or comprehend my post, please answer my question.

How was Clinton a failure from the start?

I suggest you do the same.

Isnt this thread about trustworthyness and integrity?
What does Clintons deals with the Isrealis and IRA have to to with this?

Answer: Nothing

Neither adds to his integrity or trustworthyness. They are simply policies he tried to get implemented.



 

azazyel

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Originally posted by: Genx87
You think any politician can do that?

Bush Sr may have but he didnt get a 2nd term to screw it up.
Clinton was a failure from the word go. And the current admin is terrible at defining clear goals.

about Clinton's white house

And I really didn't like how Bush handeled the situation when our spy plane whent down in China. After that it was all down hill.
 

shira

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Originally posted by: Genx87
How many scandals a week came out of the whitehouse? And dont give me crap about it being a vast right wing conspiracy. Then the infamous BJ episode and him lying under oath.

Actually, Clinton was never indicted or convicted of lying under oath. So your own statement here is a lie.

But then we know that right-wing ideologs will say anything to win an argument. Only right-wing ideologs can equate getting a BJ from an intern with propelling our country into a completely unnecessary war, getting 2000 (and counting) American soldiers killed and 15,000 (and counting) wounded, and spending $350 billioin (and counting) in pursuit of a false and completely futile objective.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: azazyel
Originally posted by: Genx87
You think any politician can do that?

Bush Sr may have but he didnt get a 2nd term to screw it up.
Clinton was a failure from the word go. And the current admin is terrible at defining clear goals.

about Clinton's white house

And I really didn't like how Bush handeled the situation when our spy plane whent down in China. After that it was all down hill.

lmao

When you want to be taken serious, come back with a better website.

Actually, Clinton was never indicted or convicted of lying under oath. So your own statement here is a lie.

lmao

ok

 

Strk

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I'd love to have an administration that can go a month without a scandel.
 

azazyel

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: azazyel
Originally posted by: Genx87
You think any politician can do that?

Bush Sr may have but he didnt get a 2nd term to screw it up.
Clinton was a failure from the word go. And the current admin is terrible at defining clear goals.

about Clinton's white house

And I really didn't like how Bush handeled the situation when our spy plane whent down in China. After that it was all down hill.

lmao

When you want to be taken serious, come back with a better website.

Actually, Clinton was never indicted or convicted of lying under oath. So your own statement here is a lie.

lmao

ok


I actually am usually taken seriously and the link was an opt ed piece by a former Clinton aid about how Bush tried to evoke an air of moral supremacy to Clinton. Don't you remember this during the first runoff?

"And yet George W. Bush campaigned on a pledge to "restore honor and decency to the Oval Office." He spoke of moms and dads on the campaign trail who showed him photos of their children and asked him to give them a president their kids could be proud of.

We all knew what he meant. With a wink and a nod he told us he wouldn't cheat on Laura. And after he took office Mr. Bush and his henchmen smeared the Clintonistas, falsely accusing them of vandalism and theft. They told the press that in this Oval Office the gentlemen would wear suits, the ladies, skirts. And no more paper coffee cups. Nothing but the finest bone china."

If you wish to argue about this fine. If you still think that the Bush Whitehouse is still on track with 'restoring honor and decency' I would love to see examples.

As for Clinton the charges he was impeached on were perjury and obstruction of justice. He agreed to a five year suspension of his Arkansas law license to end the inedpendent counsel's investigation. He was also going to be automatically disbarred but beat them to the finish and resigned instead. On top of that he was fined $90,000 for contempt of court which I believe was based on the charge that he lied under oath or some such blather.
 

Genx87

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If you wish to argue about this fine. If you still think that the Bush Whitehouse is still on track with 'restoring honor and decency' I would love to see examples.

Take the blinders off bunkie

Originally posted by: Genx87
Just like the previous two administrations,

not much.


Hmm where have I defended Bush's administration?

 

azazyel

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Originally posted by: Genx87
If you wish to argue about this fine. If you still think that the Bush Whitehouse is still on track with 'restoring honor and decency' I would love to see examples.

Take the blinders off bunkie

Please enlighten me I must have missed something.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: azazyel
Originally posted by: Genx87
If you wish to argue about this fine. If you still think that the Bush Whitehouse is still on track with 'restoring honor and decency' I would love to see examples.

Take the blinders off bunkie

Please enlighten me must have missed something.

obviously