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Do You Respect Steve Jobs?

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Do You Respect Steve Jobs?

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paperfist said:
Back then the PC (IBM) killed them, they were never as mainstream as the PC and always on the brink of failure.
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The PC came out because they wanted a piece of apple's pie.
Steve Jobs was already a well accomplished multimillionaire before IBM came out with their PC.
The Apple computer was also the motivation for IBM to go from mainframes to making PCs.
 
As a business leader who managed to make himself very rich and convince people to buy expensive gadgets, yes.

In terms of him changing the world, making people's lives better, etc. then no.
 
I do not love nor like Steve jobs for the simple reason i never met him and know him.

I do am happy that he was able to translate technical advancements and inventions into something that any non technical person also can like and by doing so created a path for the future. He was very good at removing the non intuitive aspect of technical inventions for the masses. Of course he is not the sole visionary ever existed. There are many more like him. There where and there will be again. From experience i know a lot of tech geeks have great skills but lack the intuitive part. Steve Jobs did not lack that intuitive part.


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I should add that Steve Jobs accomplished a lot indirectly. Those capacitive touch pads on the i pods, i do not know who really invented them, but touch solution appeared everywhere. On every product and every chip manufacturer has some components and software library to design capacitive touch pads or dials or whatever you like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitive_sensing

For example touch solutions from Atmel.
http://www.atmel.com/products/bsw/d...tegory_id=170&family_id=697&source=global_nav


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I found the company : synaptics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaptics

Synaptics was originally founded as a neural network research company in 1986 by Federico Faggin (co-inventor of the microprocessor) and Carver Mead (VLSI pioneer). The company began to apply semiconductor hardware design techniques to a computing technology known as neural networks.[2]

The company started shipping commercial products in 1995, with its flagship TouchPad interface for notebook PCs. The TouchPad is a touch-sensitive pad for notebooks or keyboards that senses the position of a user’s finger(s) on the surface to provide screen navigation, cursor movement, application control, and a platform for interactive input.
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I should also add that i voted no.
 
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Respect simply because he's a successful world-class entrepreneur, not particularly because he's original.
 
Sloper said:
If you can name one person to credit the advent of the Information Age, who would it be?

Steve Jobs is up there, no?
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Not really.

It's true that he was instrumental in a few things. The early macs really spearheaded an all GUI interface in a way that other computers of their time didn't. But he didn't invent the concept, just made it popular faster than it would have been otherwise. The truth is that this is largely the story of Steve's life. He was a brilliant businessman and saw where the industry was going and should go and took it there years earlier than it might have otherwise. He was a perfectionist and you can see it in his products. Few companies can say they released as many well executed products as apple. But he didn't invent anything really and most of what came out of apple would have come out of some other company at some point or another eventually. So no he has little to do with the advent of the information age, though he may have helped speed it along a bit. If you want people who were pivotal for the advent of the information age look to the founders of the internet, IP protocols, people at Xerox park who worked on GUI interfaces, created the mouse and more.
 
Do I respect him? Not really. He killed off all the charity work Apple did. He did to help keep the company afloat when it didn't have much to live on, that seems fine. But now Apple has never been as profitable. And he never brought any of the charity work Apple did back. A damn shame imo. His biggest rival gave 90% of his money to charity and is still a billonare. But you don't need to give away 90% of your billions to give something back. He didn't give back a measly 1% though. ;/ Even buffet gave to charity for a tax write off. Jobs couldn't be bothered to do that much. What a greedy asshole.

Kudos on getting gigantic profit margins on Ipads on stuff on the backs of sweat shops and child labor though. The working conditions and hours in those shops are so horrid they have to be made in other countries and shipped here as such things would be illegal here in the US. Oh well. All that matters at the end of the day is the almighty profit right? People can go fuck themselves.
 
Not to derail the thread, but i just had to add this as a prime example of good execution of commercializing a product:

Synaptics ClearPad - The ClearPad was the world's first clear capacitive touchscreen sensor for mobile devices. Synaptics' customer, LG Electronics, was the first to offer a mobile phone using such sensor with the LG Prada (KE850) in December 2006.
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The iphone was introduced in 2007 as well as the HTC touch... 🙂
 
Bignate603 said:
I respect him but I think he was ridiculously OCD.

While it's sad he's dead he made gadgets. He was very good at it, and even better at hyping them. However, people are acting like it's going to destroy their lives now that he's gone. Honestly, would their lives be tangibly worse if they never got their iPod/iPad/Mac/iDoohickey?

There are plenty of people that die each day that saved a large number of people's lives, improved the quality of their lives, or helped give them the freedom to live their lives as they chose. Many of these people pass away without much notice at all. I think it's a sad statement about how much we have consumerism ingrained into our culture that we mourn the death of a maker and promoter of gadgets more than someone that really changed people's lives.
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They say that genius is a form of brain disorder. Someone that excels in one area will always be deficient in another. He did seem OCD, which took away from his social skillset.
 
0roo0roo said:
i love you, dad
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Sophitia said:
Do I respect him? Not really. He killed off all the charity work Apple did. He did to help keep the company afloat when it didn't have much to live on, that seems fine. But now Apple has never been as profitable. And he never brought any of the charity work Apple did back. A damn shame imo. His biggest rival gave 90% of his money to charity and is still a billonare. But you don't need to give away 90% of your billions to give something back. He didn't give back a measly 1% though. ;/ Even buffet gave to charity for a tax write off. Jobs couldn't be bothered to do that much. What a greedy asshole.

Kudos on getting gigantic profit margins on Ipads on stuff on the backs of sweat shops and child labor though. The working conditions and hours in those shops are so horrid they have to be made in other countries and shipped here as such things would be illegal here in the US. Oh well. All that matters at the end of the day is the almighty profit right? People can go fuck themselves.
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its really not the job of corporations to do charity. they are doing charity with YOUR money to fluff their name when they do that.

child labor, lol troll😛
 
Do a search for "steve jobs philanthropy".

*yawn*

We can argue that Bill Gates may/has ulterior motives for his philanthropic efforts or if he is genuinely compassionate towards human suffering and inequities. One thing is certain and that is there will be millions who will forever say 'I am alive today and well today because of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation'.

I'll eat my disdain for Jobs when I see human suffering and nation-development inequities being mitigated through an Apple product.
 
:^D

Richard Stallman said:
Steve Jobs, the pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool, designed to sever fools from their freedom, has died.

As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, “I’m not glad he’s dead, but I’m glad he’s gone.” Nobody deserves to have to die - not Jobs, not Mr. Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs. But we all deserve the end of Jobs’ malign influence on people’s computing.

Unfortunately, that influence continues despite his absence. We can only hope his successors, as they attempt to carry on his legacy, will be less effective.
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Stallman is a freetard. "Nobody deserves to have to die" -- that's a really dumb statement. Everyone has to die at some point. Nobody deserves to live forever.

Jobs just wanted to make good products he could recommend to family and friends. I don't see the wrong in that at all.
 
I respect his entrepreneurship and I respect the physical design of the products his company produced.

That said, I hate him and Apple for their business practices they are now synonymous with, as well as the company taking credit for ideas and inventions that were not theirs, nor were they the first to bring them to market. Because the majority of their user base is tech-ignorant they were able to get away with these lies.

Steve Jobs could spin something better then Bill O'Reilly.
 
0roo0roo said:
its really not the job of corporations to do charity. they are doing charity with YOUR money to fluff their name when they do that.

child labor, lol troll😛
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Everything a company does it does with your money. You gave it to them cause you liked their products. I still respect a company/person more if it/he does at least some philanthropy with their billions.
 
Sure, I have no reason not to. I sure hate the cult following that he has created, but I respect his ability to create it.
 
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