Do you regret making the upgrade to Win10?

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Majcric

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I have regretted messing with Windows 10 in general. To me, it's not ready for primetime. One of my upgrades cost me all my data which was partially my fault.

Now I am having a lot Displayport errors with my system getting stuck in sleep. In a nutshell, windows 10 has been the buggiest windows I've had the pleasure of dealing with over the years
 

Captante

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Out of three PC's I upgraded to Win 10, two have crashed and become un-bootable for one reason or another. One was an upgrade-install from 7 Ultimate and the other was a clean install on a laptop that ran 8.1 previously.

The third is an older box based on an Athlon X2 6400+/NForce 500 mb. It's running an upgrade install from 7 Pro has been rock-solid stable so far although to be fair I don't use it all that much anymore and not for anything critical.

Both machines that crashed are back to their respective OS's which fortunately was painless because I created an image of each before I started. The main purpose of the upgrade was only to secure free licenses so I can upgrade later when my confidence-level will be much higher.

I wouldn't say I'm disappointed but only because I was actually expecting more in the way of problems then I had, but in my opinion Win 10 isn't great and until I need DX12 or Win 7 support ends I won't be upgrading my PC's again.
 

Carson Dyle

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Not at all. I have 7, 8.1, and 10 all on separate drives in a mobile rack. I can choose the one I want, and that does not interfere with the others.

Is there actually a way to do this seamlessly and without a huge amount of effort?

Serious question.

First, I'll never run an OS from an HDD again, but I wouldn't want to devote an entire SSD to each OS. I suppose it would possible to boot several operating systems from the same SSD (although I'm unfamiliar with how it would be done).

But the bigger issue is applications. Even something as mundane as running a browser and having visited pages marked correctly? How could you do that if bouncing between operating systems?
 

Majcric

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Will be going back to 7. Today I came in and had no sound with about 45 mins of troubleshooting I got it to work. PC has been completely freezing up resulting in a restart for stability. Icons rearranging to top left corner. I upgraded from windows 7 ultimate.

Maybe the clean installs of 10 run better this I do not know. If anyone is on the fence about upgrading I would definitely wait until you actually need it i.e DX12
 

Puffnstuff

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A clean install will run better than an upgrade. I had to clean install my desktop and laptop which works best but in the end it's down to your own personal preferences as to which is best for you. If I were doing it for business purposes I'd stick with 7 or go 8.1 x64 with a 3rd party start menu until MS gets the kinks worked out of 10. For me 8.1 pro x64 was the fastest OS I've run to date.
 

readymix

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upgrading my notebook worked better than a clean install. full of quirky issue. Deeply disappointed because I just want to get off 7 and move on. I just have no time to troubleshoot and need to resolve myself I have to wait 6 more months for DDDRedstone.
 

Megatomic

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I upgraded my Win 8.1 Vaio Tap 20 to Win 10 the very first day it was available to me. I have had such a good experience with it. The Fall update also went over very well for me. No regrets here.
 

Mem

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upgrading my notebook worked better than a clean install. full of quirky issue. Deeply disappointed because I just want to get off 7 and move on. I just have no time to troubleshoot and need to resolve myself I have to wait 6 more months for DDDRedstone.


One thing I would recommend is disable fast startup, this improves stability and driver/power issues with 8.1 and 10.


Personally never had any real OS issues since the dreaded WinME days, already bored with Win10 because its running great without issues on both my PCs lol, can't wait for next OS, at least I've my Linux distros to play around with :) .
 

readymix

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One thing I would recommend is disable fast startup, this improves stability and driver/power issues with 8.1 and 10.
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i am apparently doing that, not by intent but coincidently when disabling hibernate.
 

RLGL

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No Regrets, did a clean install. That took care of the small issues I had with the preview version I had on another drive.
 

mizzou

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i just did a clean install. So far so good. Im i stalling steam and checning if steamlink works at the moment. My PC is dx12 ready so there is no real reason not for me to upgrade
 

blankslate

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I am using it now.

It's fine after I discovered that rightclicking the start icon gives you access to "old-school" control panel, system, etc. options.

Other than that I wish there was a way to organize the folder and shortcut options in the all apps section of the start menu. maybe I'll find one or use classic shell. but it's not a pressing issue. Right now I just hit the windows key and type the name of the program I want if it is not pinned to the start or taskbar yet.

I'll probably get a program to disable tracking though.

So far I like it aside from a missing (or I just haven't found it yet) customization option for all program(apps) that was in Windows 7 and the possible privacy issues.


My PC is dx12 ready so there is no real reason not for me to upgrade

Just in case it becomes an issue for you some old games require older dx 9 dll's to fully operate even though dx 12 "should" be backward compatable. They are easily found though just search the microsoft site for dx 9 or DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010). I had to do that to get an older mmo to use the sound device after the Win 10 upgrade.




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ronbo613

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After two failed WinX "upgrades", I was able to save my PC with Win7 by using a cloned disc. My laptop was completely hosed by the failed upgrade so I restored it factory stock and, with nothing to lose but time, I tried a Win 10 upgrade using the Media Creator, which worked, then deleted the laptop's factory installed recovery partitions and did a fresh Win 10 installation.

It's OK, I guess, seems a lot like Windows 7 with a different GUI. I turned off all the tracking I could, but I don't like the forced updates at all. I've only used the computer a few days, but I see no real use improvement from Windows 7. My main computer will stay Windows 7 and probably will until it is retired from daily use.

I don't regret installing Windows 10(yet), but if I wasn't forced by Microsoft to do so, I would not have done it.
 
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Mem

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I am using it now.

It's fine after I discovered that rightclicking the start icon gives you access to "old-school" control panel, system, etc. options.

Other than that I wish there was a way to organize the folder and shortcut options in the all apps section of the start menu. maybe I'll find one or use classic shell. but it's not a pressing issue. Right now I just hit the windows key and type the name of the program I want if it is not pinned to the start or taskbar yet.

I'll probably get a program to disable tracking though.

So far I like it aside from a missing (or I just haven't found it yet) customization option for all program(apps) that was in Windows 7 and the possible privacy issues.



Right click feature is from Win8, one thing they carried over to Win10 "Win+X" ie shortcut by right clicking the Start button, one of my favourites from 8 and one handy thing Microsoft should of informed users about.

Plenty of third party Start menus if you must have it old school style, also a few third party anti tracking software out there ie Shutup10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 .
 

blankslate

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Plenty of third party Start menus if you must have it old school style, also a few third party anti tracking software out there ie Shutup10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 .

I have classicshell downloaded I just haven't installed it yet. I've been thinking about whether or not I really need to have a third party telemetry disabling program as I have already turned off most of of the available setting available in the settings.

What I liked that seems to be missing is the ability to extensively and easily customize the startmenu all apps (programs) area.

I do often just press the windows key and type the name of the program I want if it is not pinned to the Taskbar.
But being able to organize the start menu programs by types of programs like Games, Internet Programs, Utilities, Productivity, etc etc. let me browse the start menu by use of the programs rather than being locked into an alphabetical listing of all the programs.
My preferred organization of the start menu helped me when for some odd reason I wanted to do something with my system but couldn't remember the name of the program.

It's not a pressing atm since I haven't installed many programs in Windows 10 yet.

it's more a 3 or 4 out of 10 for concern right now.

I like 10 better than I think I would've liked 8 or 8.1 since I'm almost certain that I would have installed classicshell on Win 8 and I haven't felt compelled to on Windows 10 yet.


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mizzou

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i had a hell of a time getting my win7pro key to segway into a win10pro kry after doing a clean install.

it took 3 calls to customer service and an hour wait on hold.. Eventually I hung up amd called back..then a guy helped me right away
 

MRGOOCH

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Thinking there should be enough people who have made the change to Win 10. Are you sorry you made the change?
Well it's been over 4 months since I started this tread.At that time and right up until a few days ago I was completely against upgrading from Win7 to Win10. Simply because I was so comfortable where I was.I also was very nervous about making the change and finding myself in the middle of no where with out a compass.
Out of curiosity I went on You Tube to see how it would actually be to make an upgrade. After watching a few videos I felt very assured and decided to do the upgrade.
Well everything went exactly as shown in the video.I upgraded with all files in place and exactly as I left Win7. Not one single problem.
I am not over excited about Win10 but I made the leap and we will see where the future takes us.
By the way I first started with Win3 along time ago.
 

coldmeat

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Ya I'm kinda regretting it.

I can't put my computer to sleep anymore because when I try to wake it I just get a black screen for 30 seconds then it restarts.

It's constantly spinning up my storage internal and external drives when windows 7 would just leave them off at all times unless I accessed them. Why does my storage HDD need to spin up when I open a video file on my SSD? Why do my externals spin up every time I open explorer? Why do all my drives spin up when my computer is just sitting idle? Really annoying.

I really wish I had an alternative to Windows.
 

Puffnstuff

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Sounds like you need to do a clean install. The one thing that 10 does for me correctly that the others wouldn't is wake from sleep with everything working right. 7 and 8.1 would leave my sound disabled forcing me to reboot. My problem with 10 is that my system files become corrupt with time, especially after a slew of updates and folder ownership becomes skewed and it won't repair itself. This has happened 3 times so far. Since moving to 10 last August on my desktop I've had to clean install 4 times. MS needs a better file repair system to fix problems like this.
 

corkyg

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Is there actually a way to do this seamlessly and without a huge amount of effort?
Serious question.
First, I'll never run an OS from an HDD again, but I wouldn't want to devote an entire SSD to each OS. I suppose it would possible to boot several operating systems from the same SSD (although I'm unfamiliar with how it would be done).
But the bigger issue is applications. Even something as mundane as running a browser and having visited pages marked correctly? How could you do that if bouncing between operating systems?

I don't know about seams, but it is a simple process. Example: I start with a fully functional, updated drive that uses Win 7. I then clone that drive. Then I run Win 10 Pro upgrade on one of them. Perfect result - all apps identical to those in the Win 7 drive. Applications are thus a non-issue.

I have done this with my laptop as well, but with SSDs. I can then rotate OS's by swapping SSDs. (Takes about 1 minute - drives are pre-mounted in rubber railed caddies. There is really no functional difference between the OS's except differences in the user ability to customize sounds, etc. Windows 10 has greatly inhibited this area.

Both OS drives access the same data SSD. No regrets at all.
 

balloonshark

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Ya I'm kinda regretting it.

I can't put my computer to sleep anymore because when I try to wake it I just get a black screen for 30 seconds then it restarts.

It's constantly spinning up my storage internal and external drives when windows 7 would just leave them off at all times unless I accessed them. Why does my storage HDD need to spin up when I open a video file on my SSD? Why do my externals spin up every time I open explorer? Why do all my drives spin up when my computer is just sitting idle? Really annoying.

I really wish I had an alternative to Windows.
I noticed my Windows 8.1 data hdd's were spinning up when idle. A couple of windows processes were also connecting to Singapore at the same time. It turned out to be the telemetry updates which I later uninstalled.
 

Traxan

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I upgraded and went back, not over the data mining but because I think Windows 10 is singularly ugly. One thing in particular I hated was the borders around apps. In Win7 hey are nice and thick. In Win 10 they are one pixel in width. The interface pieces look amateur. If I have to stare at this for hours on end I at least want a pleasant interface.

When Stardock comes out with WindowsBlinds for Win10, I will reconsider.
 

Red Squirrel

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I upgraded and went back, not over the data mining but because I think Windows 10 is singularly ugly. One thing in particular I hated was the borders around apps. In Win7 hey are nice and thick. In Win 10 they are one pixel in width. The interface pieces look amateur. If I have to stare at this for hours on end I at least want a pleasant interface.

When Stardock comes out with WindowsBlinds for Win10, I will reconsider.

I find the same thing from screenshots I've seen. The windows 10 look actually reminds me of those fake antivirus programs. It has a really "fake" look to it, if that makes sense. There's an option to go to Windows classic I hope, right? The start menu looks horrible too, the last thing I want is a bunch of advertisements within my desktop. But I think you can get rid of that crap at least.