Do you regret making the upgrade to Win10?

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Gunbuster

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Working great for me on Desktop, Laptop, and crap HP $50 tablet.

PC's boot, apps still work, games still launch, internet still browses, Music still plays. Time in the start menu is still essentially 0 seconds daily just like with Win 7 and 8 by having key things pinned to the taskbar...
 

Sabrewings

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The UI doesn't look very thought out though. For example, window title bars and menu bars are both white, so you can't tell exactly where the draggable area (to move a window) ends and the menu bar starts. These kind of errors were common in amateurish home-made Windows XP themes and some Linux distro's, but Microsoft has generally followed UI guidelines before.

Also the tiny (1-pixel high?) "strip" that shows whether a window is active or not is too hard to see, and this will only get worse as DPI increases.

*shrug*

I guess neither of those items have been a problem to me. I have no issues seeing the strip regardless of what system I'm using (laptop, desktop with monitor, or HTPC with 55" TV). The menu bar "problem" I never noticed before. I guess it would be a problem for someone new to Windows, but anyone who has used a Windows PC would know where to grab.
 

Puffnstuff

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My asus tablet came with 8.1 and I used the media creation tool to create a bootable thumb drive which I used to upgrade in place to 10. I initially had issues with using WU because it would render my touchpad driver disabled once 10 had completed installing and it wouldn't let me uninstall it or reinstall the new driver. Once I uninstalled the touchpad driver 10 refused to allow wu or the media creation tool to upgrade it in place so the thumbdrive was my only remaining option which worked great.
 

JimmiG

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*shrug*

I guess neither of those items have been a problem to me. I have no issues seeing the strip regardless of what system I'm using (laptop, desktop with monitor, or HTPC with 55" TV). The menu bar "problem" I never noticed before. I guess it would be a problem for someone new to Windows, but anyone who has used a Windows PC would know where to grab.

It's more a matter of principle. I get annoyed when user interfaces don't follow UI design principles. Filling the active window title bar with a solid color (like Windows 8 did) would solve both problems: It would be easier to see at a glance which window is active, and it would be obvious which part of the window is draggable. Why break something on purpose that was established 30+ years ago at the dawn of GUIs?

Another thing that makes me want to throw a rock at the screen is how context menus look different depending on where you right-click. Either you get the "new" dark menu, the old white menu with black text. Make up your mind, Microsoft!
 

denis280

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Cant say yes yet,But as mention on page 2, Chapter 3, got it on on separate drive. still using 7 for main os
 

fritzfield

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For me, on both my machines, the simplest and easiest upgrade of any version of Windows that I have owned. But I am very simple, and easy.
 

Remobz

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I upgraded to Win 10 as soon as it was available. However, the Nvidia Win 10 drivers broke some key features in madVR, which to me is essential for watching movies (which I do a lot, since I don't game).

Went back to Win 8.1 for now, and frankly there's nothing about 10 that I miss except for the slightly cleaner look. I may go back at some point in the future, but I'll wait until things settle down.

I am going to wait as well. Unless, I building a new system or buying one then I will hold out for awhile until I upgrade.
 

Puffnstuff

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Use the intel driver update utility and let it find everything for your intel hardware.
 

WelshBloke

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I did regret it but now I don't.

It pushed me to try out Mint on my laptop and it works really well. I use that most of the time and just boot into the windows partition if I really need to.
 

MongGrel

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10547 works here on the main perfect, I'm still being a lab rat.

I guess I do that in general, using Firefox x64 beta on it too.

Have the regular WIN X on another.
 
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her209

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I tried it. What I like about it is that it comes with multi-monitor taskbar and virtual desktops. Virtual desktops are a big plus in my book. What I don't like about it is the bland look of the interface and icons.
 

MongGrel

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I am still using Windows 95...............

uEi0XJG.gif


():)
 

Muse

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I'm on the cusp of upgrading two of my Win7 machines to W10 (have created an install DVD from the ISO), as much because they have some serious issues as anything. I hope that W10 will cure or do an end run around those issues.

Having read ~1/2 this thread I see that a great many feel that if running W10, they want to undo/disable the data mining features MS has included. Can I get some explanation and possibly link(s) to info on what that is and how to remove/disable that? Thanks!

PS: The issues my machines have are:
1. timeout of iastor0, being my Intel 330 180GB SSD (causes freezes lasting from 1-5 minutes several times/day).
2. unable to complete Windows Update, trying takes hours to download, install and then revert every time, I've tried a lot of things including the Windows Update repair tool
 
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mxnerd

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Way too many updates whenever I reboot, it's annoying.

Regretted it and go back to 8.1. Don't know what update causes Windows Explorer hangs randomly. It could stop responding for several minutes and won't come back.

No clear advantage above 8.1. Disappointed.
 

TDY2KN01

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I'm going back. Just built a brand new i7 6700k with 16gb DDR 4, SSD and has occasional lags and unresponsiveness. I'm using this computer for editing, can't put up with troubleshoot whether it's cortana etc
 

jhansman

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No regrets here. Win7 was nice, but definitely long in the tooth. 10 does everything 7 did for me, only faster. Once acquainted with the underpinnings, I felt completely at home.
 

bononos

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I'm on the cusp of upgrading two of my Win7 machines to W10 (have created an install DVD from the ISO), as much because they have some serious issues as anything. I hope that W10 will cure or do an end run around those issues.

Having read ~1/2 this thread I see that a great many feel that if running W10, they want to undo/disable the data mining features MS has included. Can I get some explanation and possibly link(s) to info on what that is and how to remove/disable that? Thanks!

PS: The issues my machines have are:
1. timeout of iastor0, being my Intel 330 180GB SSD (causes freezes lasting from 1-5 minutes several times/day).
2. unable to complete Windows Update, trying takes hours to download, install and then revert every time, I've tried a lot of things including the Windows Update repair tool

Win7 broken update issue drove me to upgrade to 10 recently. Everything seems ok. It is noticeably slower to boot up but I don't think I felt it on an ssd, I noticed it on a clean reinstall on a new harddrive. I can't make up my mind yet whether classic shell is needed since I can pin needed shortcuts like control panel to the start menu.

The always on auto update might be a problem if you're installing from scratch or want to remove/update drivers because of the always on auto update. You can change the setting somewhere but its easier to unplug the cable for a short while.

To disable spying, turn off everything related to feedback/privacy etc under the settings. You will still be stuck with the "basic" option under "send device data to Microsoft". Then you need to make 1 change to the registry and disable 2 services as detailed here. There is a utility that does this automatically (disablewintracking) and also edit the hosts file. Check the error log if you choose to use it since I had to fix something manually when I ran it.

And windows10 still leaks info after disabling telemetry and disabling everything that could be related to privacy under settings including cortana and live tiles. I'll continue on this in the other thread.
 

Mem

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Win7 broken update issue drove me to upgrade to 10 recently. Everything seems ok. It is noticeably slower to boot up but I don't think I felt it on an ssd, I noticed it on a clean reinstall on a new harddrive. I can't make up my mind yet whether classic shell is needed since I can pin needed shortcuts like control panel to the start menu.

The always on auto update might be a problem if you're installing from scratch or want to remove/update drivers because of the always on auto update. You can change the setting somewhere but its easier to unplug the cable for a short while.

To disable spying, turn off everything related to feedback/privacy etc under the settings. You will still be stuck with the "basic" option under "send device data to Microsoft". Then you need to make 1 change to the registry and disable 2 services as detailed here. There is a utility that does this automatically (disablewintracking) and also edit the hosts file. Check the error log if you choose to use it since I had to fix something manually when I ran it.

And windows10 still leaks info after disabling telemetry and disabling everything that could be related to privacy under settings including cortana and live tiles. I'll continue on this in the other thread.

You can use Win+X menu ie right click on Start button to bring the menu up, has all the useful shortcuts you need, one good thing carried over from 8/8.1(seems a lot of Win7 users don't know about it).

Btw I find mine is faster then 7/8/8.1 on bootup.
 

bononos

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After some more time on Win10, the startup time seems to have improved and its probably faster than Win7/8. I think it was slower before because of updates or some other thing going on in the background.

VLC keeps crashing but the portable version seems to work.

What worries me is some rumours that Microsoft want to remove the old control panel.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/wind...ill-go-away-could-survive-in-rtm-484991.shtml
 

WelshBloke

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Btw I find mine is faster then 7/8/8.1 on bootup.

I've really not noticed a difference in the PCs I've upgraded.

The ones with modern motherboards and SSDs boot ridiculously fast whether it's 7, 8 or 10. The older ones take longer.
 

TechWiz365

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I don't see why anyone would ever regret making an "upgrade".

Upgrades are designed to be better than their predecessor therefore there are many improvements that can enhance the user experience.

This is like asking whether somebody regrets trading a 1995 SUV for a brand new one.
 

cohenfive

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I do now...I was away for a few days, booted up the pc today and win10 recent update has blown away every single saved setting I had on the pc. All my files are still there, as are all my applications, but every single thing is like I am starting completely over. For example, ms outlook now has no email accounts set up. Lightroom is asking for my serial number and to set up a new catalog...Tried doing restore to before the last win10 update, it failed twice.

Total and unmitigated disaster. Thanks MS.