Do you really think GWB is above being criticized?

Siddhartha

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I have often read people being called Bush haters because they criticize GWB. In fact I have heard the term used on the Salvage radio show. Do you guys really believe that GWB is above criticism?
 

etech

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Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Originally posted by: etech
Do you know the story about the boy that cried wolf to many times?

Didnt stop GWB


You know Hayabusarider, I'm not surprised that you completely missed the point of that post and actually made the point even more obvious.

 

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Originally posted by: etech
Do you know the story about the boy that cried wolf to many times?

Didnt stop GWB


You know Hayabusarider, I'm not surprised that you completely missed the point of that post and actually made the point even more obvious.

:D
 

IamDavid

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Of course he shouldn't be above criticism. I think it should be the opposite. He should be criticized more, he is the Leader of the Free World! It kind of comes with the job. And anyone who says otherwise is just a right wing nut.
But what people say on this forum and other places goes far beyond criticism. Its down right ignorant propaganda. When some idiot compares Bush to Bin Laden or some one I just want to vomit. People like that need to get a grip and take a reality check..
 

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Originally posted by: etech
Do you know the story about the boy that cried wolf to many times?

Didnt stop GWB


You know Hayabusarider, I'm not surprised that you completely missed the point of that post and actually made the point even more obvious.

Oh no! The real wolf has yet to emerge, I infer.... and no one will listen when it does. What could that be, I wonder. Well, that presumes that there is no truth in the current calling... to that I also wonder...
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I have often read people being called Bush haters because they criticize GWB. In fact I have heard the term used on the Salvage radio show. Do you guys really believe that GWB is above criticism?

He is not beyond criticism. I think overall he is doing a good job, but he could be doing a better one.

The Bush haters that Savage is likely referring to are the ones that will critize Bush no matter what he does.
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I have often read people being called Bush haters because they criticize GWB. In fact I have heard the term used on the Salvage radio show. Do you guys really believe that GWB is above criticism?

He is not beyond criticism. I think overall he is doing a good job, but he could be doing a better one.

The Bush haters that Savage is likely referring to are the ones that will critize Bush no matter what he does.

That's not true. If Bush asked Congress to keep the assault rifle ban (and better define it) and drop the tax cuts, replaced retiring supreme court justices with pro-abortion ones, and put forth a better effort in the diplomacy department, I wouldn't criticize him at all.

:D
 

fluxquantum

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no one is above criticism. since we live in a democracy, we have a right to criticize the president.
 

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Originally posted by: IamDavid

Of course he shouldn't be above criticism. I think it should be the opposite. He should be criticized more, he is the Leader of the Free World! It kind of comes with the job. And anyone who says otherwise is just a right wing nut.
But what people say on this forum and other places goes far beyond criticism. Its down right ignorant propaganda. When some idiot compares Bush to Bin Laden or some one I just want to vomit. People like that need to get a grip and take a reality check..

Another voice of reason.

Moving right along "Bush is worse than Hitler"; "Bush is the worst leader in a century"; "Communist/Facist Bush"; <insert favorite, absurd-but-sounds-good, anti-Bush rhetoric here>; etc.

(kindly disregard Vietnam, 23% unemployment and near insolvency of U.S. banking sector from 1931-1933, presidential leadership debacles - 1921-23 & 1976-1980, Watergate and paranoid powerplays during the early 1970s, and actual brutal, foreign dictatorships when making one or more of the above statements) ;)
 

Siddhartha

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Have you noticed that a common response to criticism of Bush is someone mentioning Clinton's sex life or other dstractions from the current solution?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Have you noticed that a common response to criticism of Bush is someone mentioning Clinton's sex life or other dstractions from the current solution?

Have you ever noticed how every topic posted in the P&N Forum gets turned into a Bush Bashing thread?

CkG
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Have you noticed that a common response to criticism of Bush is someone mentioning Clinton's sex life or other dstractions from the current solution?

Have you ever noticed how every topic posted in the P&N Forum gets turned into a Bush Bashing thread?

CkG

How has this thread become Bush bashing? As I have said before, GWB is the president of the US. He will be harshly criticized.



 

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Have you noticed that any criticism of a sitting Republican turns Republican sheep into Democratic historians instead of contemporary critics..
 

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I have often read people being called Bush haters because they criticize GWB. In fact I have heard the term used on the Salvage radio show. Do you guys really believe that GWB is above criticism?


No, but I do belive that most "criticism" voiced in his direction are thinly vieled attacks with alterior motives

Not that he is above doing the same to his oponents in the political arena, still dosent make it right
 

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It has appeared to me that GWB & co. are the only ones that believe he is above critisism. That is why they cry treason, aiding the enemy, unpatriotic, not supporting the troops, etc. every time someone questions his actions. No political group in the history of the country has ever made FUD such a weopon against reason and dissent than the current administration. Many people fear that they will be judged by their peers and found wanting if they voice anything against GWB and his policies.
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: etech
Do you know the story about the boy that cried wolf to many times?

????

Can someone explain to me what he means by this?

I believe it has to do with GWB declaring nations as a threat to the US and the invading them. After enough of these incidents, no one will believe him.
 

Moonbeam

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It completely baffled me too, Dr S. I know what the story means, if that would help you, but how it applied to Hayabusarider in some mysteriously appropriate way was over my head. The story itself refers to a little boy from a village, town etc in wolf country who cried wolf so many times, falsely, that he was eaten the time it was real.

Thinking it over again though, now that I've made the story more concrete by its utterance, perhaps what etech meant is that people have complained so much about Bush that when Hayabusarider said, "Didnt stop GWB" refering to Bush's wolf cries about WMD, the sad fact will be that nobody will pay any attention to this horrible travesty of Presidential lying because they have been numbed by the eating of so many Iraqi children.
 

etech

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Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: etech
Do you know the story about the boy that cried wolf to many times?

????

Can someone explain to me what he means by this?

I believe it has to do with GWB declaring nations as a threat to the US and the invading them. After enough of these incidents, no one will believe him.


BDawg, you miscontrue the meaning.(I don't think you are that stupid so I must assume it was a deliberate misconception on your part.) IamDavid and burnedout explained it in a different way, but since some did not seem to truely understand the reference I'll explain futher.

There are many on this board that criticize Pres. Bush. As pointed out he is compared to Hitler and other despotic leaders from the past. He is alternatively called stupid and dumb or the leader of a vast New World Order. It does not matter what he does or what the effects of the policy are, to some it seems they must be evil. They are constantly crying "wolf" in every post and thread that they can. That sprit has inundated this board.

The problem with that is, it is obvious that many of the complaints are not based on what he is doing or what the policy will do. They are based only on philosophical or partisan differences. The further problem is that when there is a genuine reason for concern on a policy of the Bush administration it will be buried so far down in the complete BS that it won't get the attention that it deserves.

Carry on.



 

IamDavid

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BDawg, you miscontrue the meaning.(I don't think you are that stupid so I must assume it was a deliberate misconception on your part.) IamDavid and burnedout explained it in a different way, but since some did not seem to truely understand the reference I'll explain futher.

There are many on this board that criticize Pres. Bush. As pointed out he is compared to Hitler and other despotic leaders from the past. He is alternatively called stupid and dumb or the leader of a vast New World Order. It does not matter what he does or what the effects of the policy are, to some it seems they must be evil. They are constantly crying "wolf" in every post and thread that they can. That sprit has inundated this board.

The problem with that is, it is obvious that many of the complaints are not based on what he is doing or what the policy will do. They are based only on philosophical or partisan differences. The further problem is that when there is a genuine reason for concern on a policy of the Bush administration it will be buried so far down in the complete BS that it won't get the attention that it deserves.

Carry on.

They can't understand that, its to complicated for them. I like seeing them act like fools comparing Bush to Hitler and stuff. It pushes more and more middle of the road americans right into the republican party. That's how I ended up here. I voted against Bush 1 and for Clinton his first year. Then I started to notice all the Dem's did was whine. No new ideas, no passion to fix our problems. Just whining. The upcoming 2004 elections will complete destroy whats left of the Dem. party. Afterwords they will have to rebuild and clean house by eliminating the wacko's like Clinton and Jackson. Then I might think about voting Dem. again.