Do you really hate it when ppl make a lot of money?

[lokiju]

I just had a discussion on this topic with my brother yesterday.

No I (and he) do not get jealous of others success but we see how it seems the less you make the more likely people are to be jealous.

Some people are so jealous of others success that they'd rather that successful person be forced to give it all away, it's the whole if I can't have it them screw everyone else way of thinking that I personally feel is a big issue with the way people think.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I hate when people become insanely wealthy/popular when they have no discernable skill/talent. I have nothing against people that actually work hard or have some sort of special ability and they become insanely wealthy from that.

KT

Provide some examples of people that are insanely wealthy and popular that didn't work hard and have no skills.

I dunno, Paris Hilton and the entire group of clods she hangs with is what came to mind as I was writing that.

KT

Her skill is keeping her name in the headlines. Also if you don't think she works hard she likely takes more business meetings in a week than you do in a month. you don't see stories of her business meetings only her drunk club nights. Try producing a tv show too those are like 12 hour days everyday.

next.

She isn't insanely wealthy either. She is rich. Her family is wealthy.

No discernable talent in my eyes. Just because her family is wealthy and she sits in a few meetings, she's all of a sudden talented? I don't think so.

KT

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I hate when people become insanely wealthy/popular when they have no discernable skill/talent. I have nothing against people that actually work hard or have some sort of special ability and they become insanely wealthy from that.

KT

Provide some examples of people that are insanely wealthy and popular that didn't work hard and have no skills.

I dunno, Paris Hilton and the entire group of clods she hangs with is what came to mind as I was writing that.

KT

Her skill is keeping her name in the headlines. Also if you don't think she works hard she likely takes more business meetings in a week than you do in a month. you don't see stories of her business meetings only her drunk club nights. Try producing a tv show too those are like 12 hour days everyday.

next.

She isn't insanely wealthy either. She is rich. Her family is wealthy.

No discernable talent in my eyes. Just because her family is wealthy and she sits in a few meetings, she's all of a sudden talented? I don't think so.

KT

If you want to ignore her ability to promote herself then thats your choice.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: waggy
nope not at all. i just wish i was one of them. but i don't hate them or how much they make.

 

[Mr Pickles]

I think the people that we admire the most would be the people that rolled up their sleeves and really got some hard work done. I think the people we envy the most are the people that didn't have to work hard, just maybe had a good idea and knew how to make the ball roll until it was unstoppable. Bottom line, there should be no reason for us to wish these people made less. Granted, we can be upset when the capitalize on things that affect our every day living but these people that are making the big bucks shouldn't be to blame.

 

[dainthomas]

There's an old saying that goes something like "there's no honest way to make a million dollars". I suppose that would now apply to a billion.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: Svnla
I don't have a problem with it but I do if those guys bet the wrong hand and the public will have to bail them out because they are too big to fail (big pensions/retirement accounts are invested in them), Bear Stearns for example.

Also one of the reason the gas price is so high right now is because of guys like these speculating on future prices.

Ok, but would if I took it so far as to play the advocate here and say again "hey, if they can make the money, if the controls aren't in place that there are no restrictions limiting what they are doing with gas prices then so be it, that's just power to them"

Please, please, please don't turn this into a fucking gas thread.

What part of "ONE OF THE REASON" you don't understand? ...ie...one of many many reasons..not the only one. Also, do some research and see if I was right about speculating or I just make it up and pull it out of my butt/conspiracy stuffs like some of the members here.

You said about turn it into a gas price, NOT me. Search the forum and see if I ever make a thread and whine about how high gas price is. :disgust:

Calm down. That paragraph break between my response to you and my gas statement was an attempt to make a clear indication that I was addressing everyone reading the post. Chill.

Originally posted by: purbeast0
no but i do have somewhat of a problem w/other financial things at work ...

i know I am underpaid here but I like my job so I'm sticking with it. however last year I asked for a bigger raise. i got my bigger raise than normal. another coworker asked for a bigger raise too (started same time I did) and he did not get one. and by these raises we're talking like less than $10k extra the year.

then come this past february we get our bonuses. everyone got 11% bonuses but the higher ups get much ihgher bonuses.

i know for a fact that one of the higher ups got a bonus of 80k ... AFTER TAXES.

and it bugs me that they can't give other people who hav been here 3-4 years an extra 10k/yr. that type of stuff bugs me.

And here's where I couldn't disagree with you more. The higher ups are signed into things like this. It is a contractual agreement that they make with their employer when they are hired and it is updated every year. Your job, like it or not, is less important than theirs in the company and that is why you aren't given these options.

Again, if you can lock yourself into something like this and take advantage of it then there is nothing that says you wouldn't. You would do it if you were in their shoes, don't say you wouldn't.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I hate when people become insanely wealthy/popular when they have no discernable skill/talent. I have nothing against people that actually work hard or have some sort of special ability and they become insanely wealthy from that.

KT

Provide some examples of people that are insanely wealthy and popular that didn't work hard and have no skills.

I dunno, Paris Hilton and the entire group of clods she hangs with is what came to mind as I was writing that.

KT

Her skill is keeping her name in the headlines. Also if you don't think she works hard she likely takes more business meetings in a week than you do in a month. you don't see stories of her business meetings only her drunk club nights. Try producing a tv show too those are like 12 hour days everyday.

next.

She isn't insanely wealthy either. She is rich. Her family is wealthy.

No discernable talent in my eyes. Just because her family is wealthy and she sits in a few meetings, she's all of a sudden talented? I don't think so.

KT

If you want to ignore her ability to promote herself then thats your choice.

I will and do. I don't consider having a team of people promote her around the world a talent.

KT

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: purbeast0
no but i do have somewhat of a problem w/other financial things at work ...

i know I am underpaid here but I like my job so I'm sticking with it. however last year I asked for a bigger raise. i got my bigger raise than normal. another coworker asked for a bigger raise too (started same time I did) and he did not get one. and by these raises we're talking like less than $10k extra the year.

then come this past february we get our bonuses. everyone got 11% bonuses but the higher ups get much ihgher bonuses.

i know for a fact that one of the higher ups got a bonus of 80k ... AFTER TAXES.

and it bugs me that they can't give other people who hav been here 3-4 years an extra 10k/yr. that type of stuff bugs me.

And here's where I couldn't disagree with you more. The higher ups are signed into things like this. It is a contractual agreement that they make with their employer when they are hired and it is updated every year. Your job, like it or not, is less important than theirs in the company and that is why you aren't given these options.

Again, if you can lock yourself into something like this and take advantage of it then there is nothing that says you wouldn't. You would do it if you were in their shoes, don't say you wouldn't.

i never said i didn't understand WHY it happens, i just said it sucks to be on the lower end of it.

and you are damn right, i would GLADLY accept a bonus of that size no questions asked.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I hate when people become insanely wealthy/popular when they have no discernable skill/talent. I have nothing against people that actually work hard or have some sort of special ability and they become insanely wealthy from that.

KT

Provide some examples of people that are insanely wealthy and popular that didn't work hard and have no skills.

I dunno, Paris Hilton and the entire group of clods she hangs with is what came to mind as I was writing that.

KT

Her skill is keeping her name in the headlines. Also if you don't think she works hard she likely takes more business meetings in a week than you do in a month. you don't see stories of her business meetings only her drunk club nights. Try producing a tv show too those are like 12 hour days everyday.

next.

She isn't insanely wealthy either. She is rich. Her family is wealthy.

No discernable talent in my eyes. Just because her family is wealthy and she sits in a few meetings, she's all of a sudden talented? I don't think so.

KT

If you want to ignore her ability to promote herself then thats your choice.

I will and do. I don't consider having a team of people promote her around the world a talent.

KT

OK, can't help myself: A team of people promoting someone and helping them out while they do absolutely nothing and have no real role and make no real decisions because its all handled by his posse? Bush? I'm done.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I hate when people become insanely wealthy/popular when they have no discernable skill/talent. I have nothing against people that actually work hard or have some sort of special ability and they become insanely wealthy from that.

KT

Provide some examples of people that are insanely wealthy and popular that didn't work hard and have no skills.

I dunno, Paris Hilton and the entire group of clods she hangs with is what came to mind as I was writing that.

KT

Her skill is keeping her name in the headlines. Also if you don't think she works hard she likely takes more business meetings in a week than you do in a month. you don't see stories of her business meetings only her drunk club nights. Try producing a tv show too those are like 12 hour days everyday.

next.

She isn't insanely wealthy either. She is rich. Her family is wealthy.

No discernable talent in my eyes. Just because her family is wealthy and she sits in a few meetings, she's all of a sudden talented? I don't think so.

KT

If you want to ignore her ability to promote herself then thats your choice.

I will and do. I don't consider having a team of people promote her around the world a talent.

KT

You are choosing to ignore her resume because you dislike her as a person. That does not change the fact that she does do work and she is successful.


Read this for more information on where her paychecks come from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Hilton

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I hate when people become insanely wealthy/popular when they have no discernable skill/talent. I have nothing against people that actually work hard or have some sort of special ability and they become insanely wealthy from that.

KT

Provide some examples of people that are insanely wealthy and popular that didn't work hard and have no skills.

I dunno, Paris Hilton and the entire group of clods she hangs with is what came to mind as I was writing that.

KT

Her skill is keeping her name in the headlines. Also if you don't think she works hard she likely takes more business meetings in a week than you do in a month. you don't see stories of her business meetings only her drunk club nights. Try producing a tv show too those are like 12 hour days everyday.

next.

She isn't insanely wealthy either. She is rich. Her family is wealthy.

No discernable talent in my eyes. Just because her family is wealthy and she sits in a few meetings, she's all of a sudden talented? I don't think so.

KT

If you want to ignore her ability to promote herself then thats your choice.

I will and do. I don't consider having a team of people promote her around the world a talent.

KT

OK, can't help myself: A team of people promoting someone and helping them out while they do absolutely nothing and have no real role and make no real decisions because its all handled by his posse? Bush? I'm done.

Surrounding yourself with smart and talented people is a skill in itself.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I hate when people become insanely wealthy/popular when they have no discernable skill/talent. I have nothing against people that actually work hard or have some sort of special ability and they become insanely wealthy from that.

KT

Provide some examples of people that are insanely wealthy and popular that didn't work hard and have no skills.

I dunno, Paris Hilton and the entire group of clods she hangs with is what came to mind as I was writing that.

KT

Her skill is keeping her name in the headlines. Also if you don't think she works hard she likely takes more business meetings in a week than you do in a month. you don't see stories of her business meetings only her drunk club nights. Try producing a tv show too those are like 12 hour days everyday.

next.

She isn't insanely wealthy either. She is rich. Her family is wealthy.

No discernable talent in my eyes. Just because her family is wealthy and she sits in a few meetings, she's all of a sudden talented? I don't think so.

KT

If you want to ignore her ability to promote herself then thats your choice.

I will and do. I don't consider having a team of people promote her around the world a talent.

KT

You are choosing to ignore her resume because you dislike her as a person. That does not change the fact that she does do work and she is successful.


Read this for more information on where her paychecks come from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Hilton

I don't dislike her as a person, but I do dislike what she represents. All of the things listed in her Wiki are fine and dandy, if she actually had talent in any of them. She can't act, she can't sing and I seriously doubt she writes or creates any of the stuff she is into.

KT

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I hate when people become insanely wealthy/popular when they have no discernable skill/talent. I have nothing against people that actually work hard or have some sort of special ability and they become insanely wealthy from that.

KT

Provide some examples of people that are insanely wealthy and popular that didn't work hard and have no skills.

I dunno, Paris Hilton and the entire group of clods she hangs with is what came to mind as I was writing that.

KT

Her skill is keeping her name in the headlines. Also if you don't think she works hard she likely takes more business meetings in a week than you do in a month. you don't see stories of her business meetings only her drunk club nights. Try producing a tv show too those are like 12 hour days everyday.

next.

She isn't insanely wealthy either. She is rich. Her family is wealthy.

No discernable talent in my eyes. Just because her family is wealthy and she sits in a few meetings, she's all of a sudden talented? I don't think so.

KT

If you want to ignore her ability to promote herself then thats your choice.

I will and do. I don't consider having a team of people promote her around the world a talent.

KT

You are choosing to ignore her resume because you dislike her as a person. That does not change the fact that she does do work and she is successful.


Read this for more information on where her paychecks come from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Hilton

I don't dislike her as a person, but I do dislike what she represents. All of the things listed in her Wiki are fine and dandy, if she actually had talent in any of them. She can't act, she can't sing and I seriously doubt she writes or creates any of the stuff she is into.

KT

Thats your opinion. Fact is she got paid and is still getting paid for all those things. Do you think CEO's draft up contracts for corporate takeovers? No...they have a legal department for that. Do CEO's draft up quarterly earnings reports? No...they have finance departments for that.
Not too different.

 

[meltdown75]

there's nothing productive about going through life with a head full of hate. mind your own, son.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I hate when people become insanely wealthy/popular when they have no discernable skill/talent. I have nothing against people that actually work hard or have some sort of special ability and they become insanely wealthy from that.

KT

Provide some examples of people that are insanely wealthy and popular that didn't work hard and have no skills.

I dunno, Paris Hilton and the entire group of clods she hangs with is what came to mind as I was writing that.

KT

Her skill is keeping her name in the headlines. Also if you don't think she works hard she likely takes more business meetings in a week than you do in a month. you don't see stories of her business meetings only her drunk club nights. Try producing a tv show too those are like 12 hour days everyday.

next.

She isn't insanely wealthy either. She is rich. Her family is wealthy.

No discernable talent in my eyes. Just because her family is wealthy and she sits in a few meetings, she's all of a sudden talented? I don't think so.

KT

If you want to ignore her ability to promote herself then thats your choice.

I will and do. I don't consider having a team of people promote her around the world a talent.

KT

OK, can't help myself: A team of people promoting someone and helping them out while they do absolutely nothing and have no real role and make no real decisions because its all handled by his posse? Bush? I'm done.

Surrounding yourself with smart and talented people is a skill in itself.

Agreed.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: MrLee
Inspired By: Text

That's chump change.

The Ambani brothers in India each added ~$23+ billion USD to their fortunes last year.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: MrLee
Inspired By: Text

That's chump change.

The Ambani brothers in India each added ~$23+ billion USD to their fortunes last year.

Just inspired.

 

[Xavier434]

I don't generally hate people for it, but it largely depends on what they did to get that money.

 

[child of wonder]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Nope, but I don't applaud wasteful spending.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

I dunno, Paris Hilton and the entire group of clods she hangs with is what came to mind as I was writing that.

KT

Her skill is keeping her name in the headlines. Also if you don't think she works hard she likely takes more business meetings in a week than you do in a month. you don't see stories of her business meetings only her drunk club nights. Try producing a tv show too those are like 12 hour days everyday.

next.

She isn't insanely wealthy either. She is rich. Her family is wealthy.

I don't think you understand. While she may participate in that sort of thing which helps maintain her position, most of the real decisions are not made by her. She has people tell her to do all of that from A-Z. She was never in a position where she had to work up to the point where she had the luxury of being able to hire people to keep her rich like that. She was born into a position where she was able to skip all of the hard parts which are what truly earns respect in my eyes when it comes to people's accomplishments that made them wealthy.

It's a huge difference. People put in the same kind of work she does all of the time but are no where close to being as wealthy because unlike her, they did not start off with their bank accounts overflowing with money they didn't earn nor the fame of her family's business that she did nothing for.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

I dunno, Paris Hilton and the entire group of clods she hangs with is what came to mind as I was writing that.

KT

Her skill is keeping her name in the headlines. Also if you don't think she works hard she likely takes more business meetings in a week than you do in a month. you don't see stories of her business meetings only her drunk club nights. Try producing a tv show too those are like 12 hour days everyday.

next.

She isn't insanely wealthy either. She is rich. Her family is wealthy.

I don't think you understand. While she may participate in that sort of thing which helps maintain her position, most of the real decisions are not made by her. She has people tell her to do all of that from A-Z. She was never in a position where she had to work up to the point where she had the luxury of being able to hire people to keep her rich like that. She was born into a position where she was able to skip all of the hard parts which are what truly earns respect in my eyes when it comes to people's accomplishments that made them wealthy.

It's a huge difference. People put in the same kind of work she does all of the time but are no where close to being as wealthy because unlike her, they did not start off with their bank accounts overflowing with money they didn't earn nor the fame of her family's business that she did nothing for.

Right, its people using her to make money for themselves instead of her using people to make money for herself. She's just along for the ride as long as she gets paid. She's the tool, the resource. The money makers are the one that exploit her.

 

[Nerva]

i am actually surprised at how little wall st hating is going on in this thread. a sign of forum intellect improving?

 

[hiromizu]

I hate it when my friends are successful

 

[onlyCOpunk]

As long as they didn't make their money in some sheisty way