Do you object to FBI listening to your cell phone's microphone?

[randalee]

No, I have nothing to be worried about, because I'm not a criminal. But if all it takes is to declare you an "enemy combatant", then what? "Joe Blow no longer has any constitutional rights. We think he's an enemy of the state." Fun place we live.

 

[FoBoT]

get some tinfoil for your hat

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
And if you don't have anything to hide then why not let them listen :roll:

This is an extraordinarily dangerous way of thinking. It's sad to see that it has become so popular, especially among people who are supposed to be intelligent, such as posters on a tech forum (I see it a lot here).

 

[linkgoron]

So I guess that the next step is getting live picture from the camera?

 

[rh71]

I don't care if they listen thru my cellphone. In fact, I'm going to watch more porn now.

 

[Insane3D]

The "If you have nothing to hide, why do you care?" reasoning is NOT justification for this crap.

Do you care if the FBI comes to your house at any time they want and ransack it?

If you have nothing to hide why should you care?

How the hell did this reasoning become so freaking mainstream?

:|:roll:

 

[alien42]

welcome to the united states of amerika

 

[PaperclipGod]

Interesting article... but no different than them planting bugs or listening to phone calls, imo. The FBI has to keep up with the times.

Now, if they were just randomly doing this without search warrants then id have a problem. This doesnt appear to be the case, though.

 

[Rock Hydra]

No way, if we let that happen, what next?

But most of my conversations aren't really erm...legal, therefore I say NO WAY

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
And if you don't have anything to hide then why not let them listen :roll:

This is an extraordinarily dangerous way of thinking. It's sad to see that it has become so popular, especially among people who are supposed to be intelligent, such as posters on a tech forum (I see it a lot here).

For the record to the tickleholes, I was merely stating what reasoning behind the masses will be.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

For the record to the tickleholes, I was merely stating what reasoning behind the masses will be.

Sorry, your delivery was so good, you fooled all our sarcasm meters...

*smacks detector and checks batteries*

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
The "If you have nothing to hide, why do you care?" reasoning is NOT justification for this crap.

Do you care if the FBI comes to your house at any time they want and ransack it?

If you have nothing to hide why should you care?

How the hell did this reasoning become so freaking mainstream?

:|:roll:

It's to guilt trip you into buying their BS.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: randalee
They can't listen to my home phone when it's hung up. They can even turn your cell phone ON if you've turned it OFF, and use the mic to listen in on what's going on around the phone.

I'm talking about a HARD BYPASS switch, like an on/off rocker, that would effectively disconnect the microphone. It could be toggled by the user.

Edit -- Moto Razr, Nextel, and some Samsung phones confirmed (listenable)!

Take the batteries out....

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: randalee
Okay, you've nixed me from the slippery slope. I won't go there. Yes, it's another nifty tool they can use to fight crime -- war on drugs, war on terror, etc. We have all these wars we're fighting, but none have a specific enemy. We're simply fighting "drugs" and those we determine to be "enemies of the state". I suppose the Jews just were "enemies of the state" -- the Nazi party, right?

nice, pull the nazi card

 

[mugs]

I don't object, as long as it is limited to the suspect's phone. If they start using my phone's microphone to eavesdrop on my friends or coworkers, that I'd have a problem with.

 

[waggy]

IF t hey have a court order to eavesdrop on someone then fine. long as they only use his phone.

but if they do it ot anyone who they do not have a order to then no.

 

[randalee]

Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Now, if they were just randomly doing this without search warrants then id have a problem. This doesnt appear to be the case, though.

They don't need a search warrant. They just need to believe you are an "enemy of the state". Well that the heck does that mean? When does it become, "I disagreed with something the government said, and now I'm an 'enemy of the state'..."

 

[randalee]

Originally posted by: JS80
nice, pull the nazi card

I pull the Nazi card, because we are treading the same path they blazed.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

I'm kinda stingy, so I use SMS for most communication....and valuable call minutes for hot, dirty phone sex. But I don't live in Ameriga so this is all irrelevant to me.