Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Originally posted by: loic2003
Fools, all of you. The correct phrase is "Would you mind if I ..." but because everyone is lazy these days, 'would' has been replaced with 'do'.
'Do' is for current events, not future: "Do you like this?". Would is for future events: "Would this happen if...?". When you're asking if they would mind, you're basically saying "I am proposing to do X action, would this be acceptable with you?". 'Do' is grammatically incorrect.
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Fool! I'm talking about the reply!
Fair enough but if you walked up to me and said:
"Do you mind if I can borrow your pen?"
I'd look at you funny and wander just what it was that you asked. You're literally asking if it disturbs me that you have the ability to borrow my pen.
The confusion with people giving you the answer 'yes' to what should have been the opposite is due to the equally commonly used alternative: "is it OK if I borrow your pen?" (or, for you, "Is it OK that I can borrow your pen"), which of course demands a positive response. It's one of those little nuances of our language that is strictly incorrect, but is accepted, just like "Lets see what that sounds like".