Do you mind if I...?

Hammerhead

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Ever notice when you ask a "Do you mind if I...?" question, people will always answer "sure" or "yes" or "of course" when they actually meant "No (I don't mind)"

For example, I asked someone, "Do you mind if I borrow your pen?", and he answered, "Sure" and handed me the pen. He actually meant, "No"
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Ever notice when you ask a "Do you mind if I...?" question, people will always answer "sure" or "yes" or "of course" when they actually meant "No (I don't mind)"

For example, I asked someone, "Do you mind if I can borrow your pen?", and he answered, "Sure" and handed me the pen. He actually meant, "No"

He was answering your question in bold.
And technically I believe it isnt "Do you mind if I can borrow your pen" its "Do you mind if I borrow your pen".
 

Hammerhead

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Ever notice when you ask a "Do you mind if I...?" question, people will always answer "sure" or "yes" or "of course" when they actually meant "No (I don't mind)"

For example, I asked someone, "Do you mind if I can borrow your pen?", and he answered, "Sure" and handed me the pen. He actually meant, "No"

He was answering your question in bold.
And technically I believe it isnt "Do you mind if I can borrow your pen" its "Do you mind if I borrow your pen".

Well, then technically "its" is supposed to be "it's" as in "it is"
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Ever notice when you ask a "Do you mind if I...?" question, people will always answer "sure" or "yes" or "of course" when they actually meant "No (I don't mind)"

For example, I asked someone, "Do you mind if I can borrow your pen?", and he answered, "Sure" and handed me the pen. He actually meant, "No"

He was answering your question in bold.
And technically I believe it isnt "Do you mind if I can borrow your pen" its "Do you mind if I borrow your pen".

Well, then technically "its" is supposed to be "it's" as in "it is"

It seems you had no problems understanding what I meant.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: Hammerhead
"Do you mind if I can borrow your pen?"

The grammar of that question is pretty bad anyway...you're lucky he didn't reply by drop kicking you
 

loic2003

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Fools, all of you. The correct phrase is "Would you mind if I ..." but because everyone is lazy these days, 'would' has been replaced with 'do'.

'Do' is for current events, not future: "Do you like this?". Would is for future events: "Would this happen if...?". When you're asking if they would mind, you're basically saying "I am proposing to do X action, would this be acceptable with you?". 'Do' is grammatically incorrect.

/thread.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: Hammerhead
"Do you mind if I can borrow your pen?"

The grammar of that question is pretty bad anyway...you're lucky he didn't reply by drop kicking you

If I drop-kicked every person who spoke to me with poor grammar, I'd be Chuck Fvcking Norris.
 

Hammerhead

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Originally posted by: loic2003
Fools, all of you. The correct phrase is "Would you mind if I ..." but because everyone is lazy these days, 'would' has been replaced with 'do'.

'Do' is for current events, not future: "Do you like this?". Would is for future events: "Would this happen if...?". When you're asking if they would mind, you're basically saying "I am proposing to do X action, would this be acceptable with you?". 'Do' is grammatically incorrect.

/thread.

Fool! I'm talking about the reply!
 

BigToque

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Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Originally posted by: loic2003
Fools, all of you. The correct phrase is "Would you mind if I ..." but because everyone is lazy these days, 'would' has been replaced with 'do'.

'Do' is for current events, not future: "Do you like this?". Would is for future events: "Would this happen if...?". When you're asking if they would mind, you're basically saying "I am proposing to do X action, would this be acceptable with you?". 'Do' is grammatically incorrect.

/thread.

Fool! I'm talking about the reply!

Your question was incorrect. If you can't ask the right question, why would you expect the right answer.

The question should have been: "Would you mind if I borrowed your pen?". This would usually elicit the response "No I wouldn't mind".

You can then request the pen by asking "Can I borrow your pen?" and you would usually get the response "Sure. Here you go" and he would give you the pen.
 

loic2003

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Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Originally posted by: loic2003
Fools, all of you. The correct phrase is "Would you mind if I ..." but because everyone is lazy these days, 'would' has been replaced with 'do'.

'Do' is for current events, not future: "Do you like this?". Would is for future events: "Would this happen if...?". When you're asking if they would mind, you're basically saying "I am proposing to do X action, would this be acceptable with you?". 'Do' is grammatically incorrect.

/thread.

Fool! I'm talking about the reply!


Fair enough but if you walked up to me and said:
"Do you mind if I can borrow your pen?"
I'd look at you funny and wander just what it was that you asked. You're literally asking if it disturbs me that you have the ability to borrow my pen.

The confusion with people giving you the answer 'yes' to what should have been the opposite is due to the equally commonly used alternative: "is it OK if I borrow your pen?" (or, for you, "Is it OK that I can borrow your pen"), which of course demands a positive response. It's one of those little nuances of our language that is strictly incorrect, but is accepted, just like "Lets see what that sounds like".
 

dullard

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I routinely do mind, but give in anyways since it is unimportant. Yes I mind if you borrow my pen since I have no pen for the next few minutes. But I'll still let you borrow my pen.

So the correct answer is often to say "yes" and then hand you the pen. Otherwise, I would be lying (by saying "no") or I would be rude (by refusing the pen).
 

Hammerhead

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fvck it! never mind.
I accidentally typed "can" in the question when I didn't really say "can"
I don't talk like that.
 

Gamer X

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Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Ever notice when you ask a "Do you mind if I...?" question, people will always answer "sure" or "yes" or "of course" when they actually meant "No (I don't mind)"

For example, I asked someone, "Do you mind if I can borrow your pen?", and he answered, "Sure" and handed me the pen. He actually meant, "No"

It's grammatically incorrect but linguistically correct.
 

jiwq

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Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Originally posted by: loic2003
Fools, all of you. The correct phrase is "Would you mind if I ..." but because everyone is lazy these days, 'would' has been replaced with 'do'.

'Do' is for current events, not future: "Do you like this?". Would is for future events: "Would this happen if...?". When you're asking if they would mind, you're basically saying "I am proposing to do X action, would this be acceptable with you?". 'Do' is grammatically incorrect.

/thread.

Fool! I'm talking about the reply!


Fair enough but if you walked up to me and said:
"Do you mind if I can borrow your pen?"
I'd look at you funny and wander just what it was that you asked. You're literally asking if it disturbs me that you have the ability to borrow my pen.

The confusion with people giving you the answer 'yes' to what should have been the opposite is due to the equally commonly used alternative: "is it OK if I borrow your pen?" (or, for you, "Is it OK that I can borrow your pen"), which of course demands a positive response. It's one of those little nuances of our language that is strictly incorrect, but is accepted, just like "Lets see what that sounds like".

yeah, it's like asking, "so you won't let me borrow your pen?" and most people would answer "no" (assuming they dont want to loan their pen)
 

loic2003

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Originally posted by: Hammerhead
it! fvck never mind. can.
Typed I accidentally "can" in question the when didn't I say really "can"
I talk don't like that. can.

Fair enough, we all make mistakes.

 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Hammerhead
fvck it! never mind.
I accidentally typed "can" in the question when I didn't really say "can"
I don't talk like that.

But you type like that? Thats even worse, you can proofread typing but no talking.
Oi.
 

Hammerhead

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Hammerhead
fvck it! never mind.
I accidentally typed "can" in the question when I didn't really say "can"
I don't talk like that.

But you type like that? Thats even worse, you can proofread typing but no talking.
Oi.

Oh, like you never made a mistake in any of your posts