Originally posted by: PandaBear
I only look down on people who are perfectly capable to work but collect welfare.
Originally posted by: dullard
Usually it is both. 90% of people on welfare work.Originally posted by: eakers
no, absolutely not.
its better than sittin at home on welfare, that is for sure.
I do look down on them IF they meet one condition. That condition is that if they can do better and don't, then I look down on them.
Some people are not capable of a better job. I even admire those people if they can hold down a steady job - even if it is minimum wage.
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
no, however, i can't stand the people who work minimum wage jobs, and don't do it well, ie standing around while customers are in line, talking to their peers while there are customers...and so on and so forth....
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: dullard
Usually it is both. 90% of people on welfare work.Originally posted by: eakers
no, absolutely not.
its better than sittin at home on welfare, that is for sure.
I do look down on them IF they meet one condition. That condition is that if they can do better and don't, then I look down on them.
Some people are not capable of a better job. I even admire those people if they can hold down a steady job - even if it is minimum wage.
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But then you eventually did something about it? If so, I admire you. A person can work minimum wage temporarilly and not be judged by me. It is those people who think of minimum wage as a lifetime carrer and who have so much other potential that bother me.Originally posted by: Locut0s
After suffering from depression in university, as I said in my OP, I can definitely see how someone with great potential could end up in such a job for a long time.
That is a completely different issue. I can admire someone socially but frown upon their career. You seem to be trying to argue that you have to admire both or look down upon both.But then again who am I to judge, by and large those I've met making a living at these jobs have been some of the nicest people, as others here have agreed to as well.
Originally posted by: dullard
But then you eventually did something about it? If so, I admire you. A person can work minimum wage temporarilly and not be judged by me. It is those people who think of minimum wage as a lifetime carrer and who have so much other potential that bother me.Originally posted by: Locut0s
After suffering from depression in university, as I said in my OP, I can definitely see how someone with great potential could end up in such a job for a long time.
I myself worked minimum wage for a bit. I detasseled corn for $3.65 (I think) an hour. But after one week of working, my boss realized that I worked harder than the rest and gave me a free hour pay for every days work. I had a crap job and I did something about it. I got an education and moved out of a town where it is almost all minimum wage jobs. I feel others with potential should do the same.
Note: compensation isn't only monetary.
That is a completely different issue. I can admire someone socially but frown upon their career. You seem to be trying to argue that you have to admire both or look down upon both.But then again who am I to judge, by and large those I've met making a living at these jobs have been some of the nicest people, as others here have agreed to as well.
Originally posted by: Locut0s
I've seen a few posts on here off and on in which some people have made comments suggesting that they look down on those in society living on minimum wage. One in particular comes to mind a while back. However in the post in question most people shot the OP down for his comments while a few supported him. So do you look down on those making a living on minimum wage? Note I say making a living, so I'm not talking about your average college grad working at McDonalds in the summer for extra dough.
When I was much younger I would have said no but in reality I did. Now that I'm a bit older I have to say definitely no. Having gone through some problems in university, of the emotional variety not the grade point type, and working in the summer at 7-11 and meeting some genuinely great people.
Because these people usually have so much potential to better themselves, to better their family, or to better society. But instead, they flip burgers and complain non-stop for decades that they don't have enough money to do the things they want to do. These people all tell me that they are going to build a hovercraft, become the next president, be the next pop singer sensation, etc. But 5, 10, 15 years later nothing has changed. They didn't even read one book on engineering, take one class in political science, or even sing one song in the shower. That is a sad existance - to never strive for even one single goal.Originally posted by: shimsham
why frown upon what they choose to do with their life?
Originally posted by: dullard
Because these people usually have so much potential to better themselves, to better their family, or to better society. But instead, they flip burgers and complain non-stop for decades that they don't have enough money to do the things they want to do. These people all tell me that they are going to build a hovercraft, become the next president, be the next pop singer sensation, etc. But 5, 10, 15 years later nothing has changed. They didn't even read one book on engineering, take one class in political science, or even sing one song in the shower. That is a sad existance - to never strive for even one single goal.Originally posted by: shimsham
why frown upon what they choose to do with their life?
Call me a bad person. But I want people to achieve their goals. And I think they should at least try.
I don't admire someone just because they have a good career. Often I admire those with minimum wage jobs more than those who work the system to milk out a great living while leaching off society.Originally posted by: shimsham
i understand what youre saying, but just as many people who make great money "talk out their ass" like that. everyone does at one time or another.
Originally posted by: Rudee
Only if they're shorter than me.
