Do you look down on those earning min wage?

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DaShen

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: eakers
no, absolutely not.
its better than sittin at home on welfare, that is for sure.
Usually it is both. 90% of people on welfare work.

I do look down on them IF they meet one condition. That condition is that if they can do better and don't, then I look down on them.

Some people are not capable of a better job. I even admire those people if they can hold down a steady job - even if it is minimum wage.

QFT
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: xospec1alk
no, however, i can't stand the people who work minimum wage jobs, and don't do it well, ie standing around while customers are in line, talking to their peers while there are customers...and so on and so forth....

The thing about minimum wage jobs is that there's plenty to go around. Who cares if you get fired from burger shack A for being lazy...its not like you can't just work at burger shack B. You weren't going to get a fvcking raise anyway.
 

Patt

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I suspect that most people will vote no, but act yes. I try not to in general, but there are times when I know I have unconciously done so. :(
 

Locut0s

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: eakers
no, absolutely not.
its better than sittin at home on welfare, that is for sure.
Usually it is both. 90% of people on welfare work.

I do look down on them IF they meet one condition. That condition is that if they can do better and don't, then I look down on them.

Some people are not capable of a better job. I even admire those people if they can hold down a steady job - even if it is minimum wage.

QFT

I agree and disagree. I do have sympathy for those people who work such jobs and have the potential to do much more but have something genuine holding them back. After suffering from depression in university, as I said in my OP, I can definitely see how someone with great potential could end up in such a job for a long time. That being said I have also met those who don't seem to have anything holding them back and also have great potential and still work such jobs. But then again who am I to judge, by and large those I've met making a living at these jobs have been some of the nicest people, as others here have agreed to as well.
 

GasX

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I look down on stupid lazy people. They are well represented in the minimum wage group.
 

jtvang125

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I have no problem with it. It's when that person starts complaining and whining about the pay. Like one of my roommates with a bachelor's in CS yet has been doing minimum or near minimum wage work since graduating. You don't know how much it gets on my nerves when I hear him complain about his jobs.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Locut0s
After suffering from depression in university, as I said in my OP, I can definitely see how someone with great potential could end up in such a job for a long time.
But then you eventually did something about it? If so, I admire you. A person can work minimum wage temporarilly and not be judged by me. It is those people who think of minimum wage as a lifetime carrer and who have so much other potential that bother me.

I myself worked minimum wage for a bit. I detasseled corn for $3.65 (I think) an hour. But after one week of working, my boss realized that I worked harder than the rest and gave me a free hour pay for every days work. I had a crap job and I did something about it. I got an education and moved out of a town where it is almost all minimum wage jobs. I feel others with potential should do the same.

Note: compensation isn't only monetary.
But then again who am I to judge, by and large those I've met making a living at these jobs have been some of the nicest people, as others here have agreed to as well.
That is a completely different issue. I can admire someone socially but frown upon their career. You seem to be trying to argue that you have to admire both or look down upon both.

 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Locut0s
After suffering from depression in university, as I said in my OP, I can definitely see how someone with great potential could end up in such a job for a long time.
But then you eventually did something about it? If so, I admire you. A person can work minimum wage temporarilly and not be judged by me. It is those people who think of minimum wage as a lifetime carrer and who have so much other potential that bother me.

I myself worked minimum wage for a bit. I detasseled corn for $3.65 (I think) an hour. But after one week of working, my boss realized that I worked harder than the rest and gave me a free hour pay for every days work. I had a crap job and I did something about it. I got an education and moved out of a town where it is almost all minimum wage jobs. I feel others with potential should do the same.

Note: compensation isn't only monetary.
But then again who am I to judge, by and large those I've met making a living at these jobs have been some of the nicest people, as others here have agreed to as well.
That is a completely different issue. I can admire someone socially but frown upon their career. You seem to be trying to argue that you have to admire both or look down upon both.



why frown upon what they choose to do with their life?
 

cavemanmoron

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Originally posted by: Locut0s
I've seen a few posts on here off and on in which some people have made comments suggesting that they look down on those in society living on minimum wage. One in particular comes to mind a while back. However in the post in question most people shot the OP down for his comments while a few supported him. So do you look down on those making a living on minimum wage? Note I say making a living, so I'm not talking about your average college grad working at McDonalds in the summer for extra dough.

When I was much younger I would have said no but in reality I did. Now that I'm a bit older I have to say definitely no. Having gone through some problems in university, of the emotional variety not the grade point type, and working in the summer at 7-11 and meeting some genuinely great people.

I wish anyone making minimum wage to hopefully,
get a raise,or a better job,soon.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: shimsham
why frown upon what they choose to do with their life?
Because these people usually have so much potential to better themselves, to better their family, or to better society. But instead, they flip burgers and complain non-stop for decades that they don't have enough money to do the things they want to do. These people all tell me that they are going to build a hovercraft, become the next president, be the next pop singer sensation, etc. But 5, 10, 15 years later nothing has changed. They didn't even read one book on engineering, take one class in political science, or even sing one song in the shower. That is a sad existance - to never strive for even one single goal.

Call me a bad person. But I want people to achieve their goals. And I think they should at least try.
 

HombrePequeno

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It's better than begging on the street. If you have any skills at all though, you should be making more than minimum wage.
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: shimsham
why frown upon what they choose to do with their life?
Because these people usually have so much potential to better themselves, to better their family, or to better society. But instead, they flip burgers and complain non-stop for decades that they don't have enough money to do the things they want to do. These people all tell me that they are going to build a hovercraft, become the next president, be the next pop singer sensation, etc. But 5, 10, 15 years later nothing has changed. They didn't even read one book on engineering, take one class in political science, or even sing one song in the shower. That is a sad existance - to never strive for even one single goal.

Call me a bad person. But I want people to achieve their goals. And I think they should at least try.



i understand what youre saying, but just as many people who make great money "talk out their ass" like that. everyone does at one time or another.

i have just as much respect for a "dreamer" who does what it takes to handle his business as i do for the guy who rolls in money and chases him ambition at the expense of other aspects of life. in 99% of situations, to make the big cash you have to sacrifice and compromise other parts of life. some people choose to do that, and some dont. doesnt necessarily make those that dont failures or less of a person.

again, im not disagreeing with you or think you are a bad person. its just not always so cut and dry.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: shimsham
i understand what youre saying, but just as many people who make great money "talk out their ass" like that. everyone does at one time or another.
I don't admire someone just because they have a good career. Often I admire those with minimum wage jobs more than those who work the system to milk out a great living while leaching off society.

Compensation is not just financial (I said that above). Thus the "sacrifice and compromise other parts of life" part is included in my decision. It is solely those who don't have to sacrifice or compromise to get a better job yet who still won't do it that bother me.
 

Noirish

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i make big bucks b/c there are ppl making minimum.
the more the merrier.
not that i own a business or something like that.