Do you like to recycle?

[syrillus]

That's money that could be going to schools to avoid graduating illiterate fuckheads.

In most cases, illiterate fuckheads fucked off in school and chose to be illiterate fuckheads. No amount of money would change this.

 

[Oceandevi]

In most cases, illiterate fuckheads fucked off in school and chose to be illiterate fuckheads. No amount of money would change this.

Can't knock it till you try it.

 

[Nik]

In most cases, illiterate fuckheads fucked off in school and chose to be illiterate fuckheads. No amount of money would change this.

Send them to a shitty school with negative reinforcement but no positive reinforcement and sure you'll get that sort of result, but that's another matter.

 

[ShawnD1]

yes , i like to recycle. I also like to compost.
recycling and composting greatly reduced the amount of trash i have so much i cancelled my garbage pickup.

I accidentally discovered composting when my dad forced me to mow the lawn. I didn't feel like running back and forth to get bags so I just threw the grass in an old rain barrel that had some rust holes on the bottom. When left in the barrel, grass just sort of disappears. It turns into this brown sludge, but the barrel never seems to get full. I throw all kinds of organic shit (not literally) into the barrel and it becomes part of the sludge.

I'm not sure how much of it actually get recYcled though.
I think that most of the pet bottles go to china on ships that are returning to the mainland.
I think the biggest problem with recycling is just that our system is not efficient enough yet.
I'd like to see the figures on recycling in japan, I wonder if it's any better.

http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/01/27/burning-garbage-in-tokyo/

(above article)
Applying Japan’s latest green technology, Toshima Incineration Plant is one of more than a dozen garbage plants in the Tokyo metropolitan area that have recently started burning plastic waste.
The plant’s control center closely monitors the levels of toxins at each stage of the burning process.
This incinerator operates at 1600 degrees Fahrenheit, or 900 Centigrade. A state-of-the-art air filter system removes almost every single ash and toxic substance from the air before it leaves the plant. What goes out of the 70-story-tall smoke stack is just steam and a very tiny amount of carbon dioxide.

You're still supposed to separate your garbage because they don't want to throw random shit in the fire. Plastic burns well, metal kinda burns but not really, and glass doesn't burn. Putting food garbage in the fire would screw it up pretty bad because the water in it would lower the temperature of the fire considerably.

 

[vi edit]

That part that just annoys me about their argument is that they just keep beating you over the head that it cost less to start new...cost cost cost cost cost cost cost.

Well...recyling isn't really about costs. It's about simply using less. The paper part I can admit is probably a wash since it's a pretty renewable resource. I just have to think that there is something better that we can do with all those freaking newspapers/junk mail/and shred bins at work rather than just throwing it in the ground. Or better yet...just not create as much in the first place.

Where I think they glaze over on the details and just flat out ignore is plastic. What is required to make plastic? Petroleum. What is required to make petroleum? Oil. To date we have no mass renewable way to produce or synthesize oil. At some point as oil either becomes more in demand or much less accesible price will go up and you will meet a crossover point where it WILL cost more to make new than recyle existing.

I think it's a better idea to refine technology and practical applications while we still have that luxury than sit back and wait for it to be a reality.

And as far as the "8 BILLION DOLLARS OMG OH NO WASTE WASTE WASTE!*!&@!@&^#"...

If it's not getting picked up and addressed by recyling then it's going to put an additional burden on commercial garbage companies and public landfils. One way or another that burden is going to wind up either on your garbage bill or your property taxes in the form of a county landfill levy for when they have to annex more ground and open a new dump site. And once you cut through the drama and cursing about recyling sorting being a "shitty, horrible job"...is a garbage man role any more glamorous?

Do the P&T B$ fans have the same opinion of Micheal Moore? Because it's the same exact format. Just a different leaning.

 

[Aharami]

yes i do. Since when did circus comedians become experts on anything scientific?

 

[darkswordsman17]

yes i do. Since when did circus comedians become experts on anything scientific?

They're not, and they'll be the first ones to tell you that. They freely admit that they go over the top, since, first of all, they're making an entertainment piece. They don't hide the fact that they're actually just magicians. Plus, I'm pretty sure they'd also be the first to tell you that you should learn about this stuff yourself, and not take either side's bias.

Are you people going to go off about how the Onion isn't a reliable paper? What about The Daily Show? Its the same thing, everyone already is aware. Ignore Nik preaching it as gospel, he's clearly been trying to push people's buttons lately (if not always).

 

[Nik]

yes i do. Since when did circus comedians become experts on anything scientific?

They're not the ones presenting the case.

 

[ShawnD1]

Are you people going to go off about how the Onion isn't a reliable paper? What about The Daily Show? Its the same thing, everyone already is aware. Ignore Nik preaching it as gospel, he's clearly been trying to push people's buttons lately (if not always).

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/daily-show-fox-knowledge/

A new (2007) study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last

 

[charrison]

I recycle and I also watched and liked the P&T video. They are right about much of what is in the video and get very little wrong. However, they may also wish to revisits some of the economics of recycling as oil has gone much higher and single stream processing is widely available.

Since my city has gone to the 2 bin system, recycling costs the same as trash to pick up according to the city. They have to pay $20/ton to landfill the trash, but get paid $20/ton for the recyclable materials. I am sure aluminum and steel cans is what earns most of that $20/ton. With oil being $80/barrels plastics may be generating decent revenue as well.


I also read that a local landfill was going to start pulling the aluminum and steel out of the trash streams before sending the trash into the landfill.