Do You Like Apple?

[Anubis]

This. On every single instance.

not all of them

the battery argument is a good one - and this basically applies to all apple products

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Sure it does. Battery life? Weight?

Any market? Tablet?

My Thinkpad x220 however is lighter and cheaper than a Macbook Pro 13 yet still has better battery life and a better display (IPS FTW). It also has one of the best keyboards you can get in a laptop.

 

[Dominato3r]

What makes the Apple touchpad better? Serious question

 

[brblx]

not all of them

the battery argument is a good one - and this basically applies to all apple products

also the hardware...the one button touchpad...the still-shit-quality screens present on just about everything....

 

[Puddle Jumper]

also the hardware...the one button touchpad...the still-shit-quality screens present on just about everything....

Funny, all of Apple's laptops ship with TN panels. sure they are better than what you get in your average HP or Acer but that isn't saying much.

 

[brblx]

My Thinkpad x220 however is lighter and cheaper than a Macbook Pro 13 yet still has better battery life and a better display (IPS FTW). It also has one of the best keyboards you can get in a laptop.

'IPS panel' is beyond the depth of any mac user, prepare to get flamed. their computer has a shinier case, dude.

 

[Capt Caveman]

My Thinkpad x220 however is lighter and cheaper than a Macbook Pro 13 yet still has better battery life and a better display (IPS FTW). It also has one of the best keyboards you can get in a laptop.

I have one for work. It's nice and I like it alot but the keyboard is cramped and the build quality isn't as nice.

 

[Capt Caveman]

'IPS panel' is beyond the depth of any mac user, prepare to get flamed. their computer has a shinier case, dude.

I'm sure Anand disagrees.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I have one for work. It's nice and I like it alot but the keyboard is cramped and the build quality isn't as nice.

How is the keyboard cramped? I have found the keyboard far better than anything short of the ones on larger thinkpads that also have a numpad. Also Lenovo's build quality is far better than Apple's, my friends core 2 Duo Macbook looks like crap after a few years being carried in a bag while I have seen far older thinkpads which have been treated much worse look far better.

 

[Pliablemoose]

What makes the Apple touchpad better? Serious question

It's bigger, no buttons, very sensitive and it does gestures, once you start to use it, you don't want to go back.

 

[Dominato3r]

It's bigger, no buttons, very sensitive and it does gestures, once you start to use it, you don't want to go back.

I've been hearing a lot of positive testimony and I really want to buy a MBA/MBP... but it's kinda hard for me to gauge its value. Im looking for some light and small for school and general use and have been having a difficult time finding a decent laptop. I'm seriously considering the MBA, I'll just have to go down to an apple store and check it out, I guess.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I've been hearing a lot of positive testimony and I really want to buy a MBA/MBP... but it's kinda hard for me to gauge its value. Im looking for some light and small for school and general use and have been having a difficult time finding a decent laptop. I'm seriously considering the MBA, I'll just have to go down to an apple store and check it out, I guess.

I highly recommend the ThinkPad X220. You can't beat the battery life, performance, screen quality, and price. It's by far the best laptop I have ever used bar none.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I only recently started listening to Mother Love Bone. Good album.

 

[Veliko]

Definitely, they are possibly the greatest company in the world right now and they send the trend for pretty much every tech market.

Not at all. In overall terms they aren't that significant at all - let's not get away from the fact that the large bulk of what they sell are portable music player and mobile phones.

 

[irishScott]

Their products are damn fine pieces of craftsmanship that's for sure, but I disagree with a lot of their corporate philosophy. Once you go Apple, you are Apple's bitch; and you better hope they go in a direction you like otherwise you're stuck with something else. Many other companies are more open either by structure (linux/android) or by market force (Windows).

 

[HAL9000]

Not at all. In overall terms they aren't that significant at all - let's not get away from the fact that the large bulk of what they sell are portable music player and mobile phones.

Exactly. Mobile phones and Music players are some of the tech markets I was talking about. Apple sets the trend for:

Laptop Aesthetics
Operating systems layout
Tablets
Phones
Music Players
Mini Desktop design.

 

[Beev]

Hey guys, I have a MBA and want to rip some old CD's into iTunes. How do I do that?

Oh... I have to spend $80 (for a $30 piece of hardware) in addition to the $1300 (for a $600 piece of hardware) that I spent on the laptop itself? Oh ok...

THAT is one of the reasons (already mentioned in this thread, I know) that I hate them. Couple that with nearly everything being proprietary and I have no need to use ANY of their products. It's not acceptable to me that I can't even access the goddamn battery on hardware I overpaid for by nearly 100%. I vote with my wallet. I don't hate them because their products suck; I honestly haven't used one since high school so I don't know if they do to me.

They suck because of their business practices, and then all of the people eating it up like it's special in ANY way are just as bad.

 

[Fingolfin269]

It's funny how much anger people have towards Apple. I love these threads for reminding me of how I used to be. Thank you!

 

[KeypoX]

They are just another billion dollar tech company. I don't hate them or love them.

Not just another, but one of the FEW american tech companies employing somewhere around 75,000 employees.

Just because you're to cool to use apple dont know how you could hate them.

 

[SamurAchzar]

I can't stand their dumbed-down products but I admire the company. Without them we'd all still be using feature phones priced like last-gen iPhones.

What I admire most about Apple, is that it's born out of a single-minded, ruthless, coherent vision of a mad man who has unfortunately just passed away. Apparently corporate fascism, when led by a brilliant man, is the most effective way forward.

 

[Minerva]

PC touchpads are total crap. Not even in the same galaxy as macbooks. PC touchpads are like Metallica and Macbook pros like Bach.

I have two top tier products to compare to: Dell Precision M6600 and Apple Macbook Pro 17". Both have same CPU, memory, SSD. The MBP has a better and proper 1920x1200 display where the Dell has the much inferior 1920x1080 "HDTV" garbage. Why they went this route on a high end product I'm at a loss of words but that's it. What I do like over the MBP is the Quadro adapter vs. ATI. I always prefer NV over AMD on any platform.

The battery life on both is very good. I was impressed to see how well Dell manages their battery life using dual GPUs. The new Sandy Bridge notebooks excel in this area. The MBP has good battery life for its power/size as well. As far as replacing the battery goes it's not a big deal if you know how to use a screwdriver.

The Dell feels a lot clunkier and its 230W power supply is hideously large! The MBP uses a magnetic coupler on its charger which has no equal and saves the computer from legs catching the cord when it runs from the sofa to the coffee table!

For the same amount of money invested in both (roughly $3000) I prefer the MBP over the Dell. For portability it cannot be beat. The Dell has the obvious advantage (Win7 duh!) for CAD/CAM where Mac OSX is not supported. Forget Bootcamp, it's not an option for that so not even going there! Oh and BTW the $500 SSD (256GB) Dell option is a total rip off. It's some brand I never heard of and has horrible random 4K performance. The Crucial M4 I installed in my mbp totally stomps all over it!

I have a magic mouse and love its gestures but tracking on uneven surfaces blows and it's somewhat uncomfortable to use. The trackpad makes up for it though. I'm ok with using it full time. On a PC no way can I use a touchpad more than I have to. They suck so bad and now that I'm acclimated to Lion gestures it just makes using those clunky things even harder. I have an 13" hp envy that I want to plug full of .500" holes sometimes not because it sucks as a computer but because of its horrible touchpad!

So there! You have an honest take on using both (been using PCs strictly for the past ten+ years here, first owned a mac starting this summer).

As for other Apple products...

First Apple product was iPod U2 edition, then 80GB 5th gen, 32GB touch, original iPhone 8GB, 16GB iPhone 3G (had about three of these), 32GB iPhone 3GS, two iPhone 4s (16 and 32GB), plan on getting 32 or 64GB iPhone 4S from Sprint. Posting this from a 17" unibody macbook pro 2011.

 

[0roo0roo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXV-yaFmQNk
A Magazine Is an iPad That Does Not Work

 

[Pliablemoose]

Hey guys, I have a MBA and want to rip some old CD's into iTunes. How do I do that?

Crazy you should mention that, I was running from a group of berserker robots who were trying to kill me for the neurons in my brain stem, I had the program to shut them down from SkyNet, but it was on a CD, all I had was a MBA I had "borrowed" from a replicant I'd just retired, fortunately, I found a virtual computer in the Matrix reality I was in that had a disk drive, and being the good hacker I am, I wirelessly networked to that virtual computer in the Matrix's alternate reality and downloaded the files to my MBA.

I shut down the berserkers and then had sex with a hot chick in the alternate reality, then I went to a virtual Starbucks in another Matrix reality where we all looked like Steve Buscemi, unfortunately we were all gay (not that there's anything wrong with that, but it gets boring sipping lattes and flirting with all the other Steve Buscemi's.)

 

[Minerva]

Oh yeah I got an ipad2, forgot to mention that. Since I mentioned Dell above (I know this is an Apple thread) I will say that I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 that I like overall better but I have a LOT of apps I use on the ipad so I use both. I really like how I can drag mp3 files from my pc to the tab used like a flash drive and play them where the ipad/iphone/ipad REQUIRES you to use i-toons. WTF is up with that, Apple?!!!

 

[Beev]

Crazy you should mention that, I was running from a group of berserker robots who were trying to kill me for the neurons in my brain stem, I had the program to shut them down from SkyNet, but it was on a CD, all I had was a MBA I had "borrowed" from a replicant I'd just retired, fortunately, I found a virtual computer in the Matrix reality I was in that had a disk drive, and being the good hacker I am, I wirelessly networked to that virtual computer in the Matrix's alternate reality and downloaded the files to my MBA.

I shut down the berserkers and then had sex with a hot chick in the alternate reality, then I went to a virtual Starbucks in another Matrix reality where we all looked like Steve Buscemi, unfortunately we were all gay (not that there's anything wrong with that, but it gets boring sipping lattes and flirting with all the other Steve Buscemi's.)

That sounds like a lot of work...