Do You Like Apple?

[Narse]

I was very anti-Apple until about the time I got the first iPod touch. I got it as a gift from my wife and found it to be a fantastic device. From there I moved to an iPhone and finally two years ago purchased a MacBook Pro 13". I now have iPhone for me and my wife and have had two MacBook Pro's. I have found OSX to be a fantastic OS and love to use it. If I could game as well on a iMac I would dump PCs completely at this point.

 

[Capt Caveman]

FTFY. my $400 laptop outclasses a $1000 macbook in every aspect FFS. they are not vaguely price-competitive in any market.

Sure it does. Battery life? Weight?

Any market? Tablet?

 

[vi edit]

FTFY. my $400 laptop outclasses a $1000 macbook in every aspect FFS. they are not vaguely price-competitive in any market.

Uh huh. And a Civic with leather is the same as a BMW.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I was an Apple hater before many posting now were even alive. I've built a desktop PC on every major CPU Intel has produced since the 8088, I tried to actually use Windows 286...

I'm typing this post on an i5 13" MBA, I have an iPad2, an iPod Touch and just got an iP4 for Verizon off eBay.

A word of caution to the Apple haters, never buy an Apple product, you'll end up eating your words.

Anyone that says Apple hasn't changed PC's, phones, or computing, etc, is full of shit.

 

[brblx]

Uh huh. And a Civic with leather is the same as a BMW.

right, except the BMW isn't less powerful and more poorly designed..

 

[Anubis]

I was an Apple hater before many posting now were even alive. I've built a desktop PC on every major CPU Intel has produced since the 8088, I tried to actually use Windows 286...

I'm typing this post on an i5 13" MBA, I have an iPad2, an iPod Touch and just got an iP4 for Verizon off eBay.

A word of caution to the Apple haters, never buy an Apple product, you'll end up eating your words.

Anyone that says Apple hasn't changed PC's, phones, or computing, etc, is full of shit.

i owned an apple product at one point, a power PC back in 98 it was a POS
my college had the colored I macs and then the ET ones, they also were giant pieces of shit compared to any PC at the time.
the first ipod came with itunes which in 2002/2003 was worse then real player on the POS scale on the PC side, also no one had a fing firewire port - the only person i knew who had a gen 1 ipod had it break on him in less then a month

 

[Fenixgoon]

I was an Apple hater before many posting now were even alive. I've built a desktop PC on every major CPU Intel has produced since the 8088, I tried to actually use Windows 286...

I'm typing this post on an i5 13" MBA, I have an iPad2, an iPod Touch and just got an iP4 for Verizon off eBay.

A word of caution to the Apple haters, never buy an Apple product, you'll end up eating your words.

Anyone that says Apple hasn't changed PC's, phones, or computing, etc, is full of shit.

i've used macs from OS7 - OSX. the finder was essentially the same as windows 3.1/95. i don't understand how one person could use MacOS and not be able to use windows. There are so many similarities it's stupid.

yes, there are going to be some differences. is that supposed to be a surprise to people? that MacOS isn't the exact same as windows, or vice versa?

 

[TallBill]

I don't like or dislike apple. I like my acer laptop that I got for $550, a comparable mac might be "better" but it would also be 3x the cost and I'd just run windows anyways. For my phone I really like my Droid X2. I can't type on the iphone's touchscreen because my hands are enormous, and that really is the #1 reason why I chose not to get an iphone. Other than that I view both mobile platforms equally.

 

[vi edit]

right, except the BMW isn't less powerful and more poorly designed..

LOL.

I'm sure that's why one of the more successful tech writers on the internet (AKA the owner of these forums) does most of his writing on a Macbook.

 

[RiDE]

I like the feel and build quality... even if a little overpriced. Don't like the smug users. :hmm:

 

[lxskllr]

LOL.

I'm sure that's why one of the more successful tech writers on the internet (AKA the owner of these forums) does most of his writing on a Macbook.

Apple has nothing that can be objectively measured. You ALWAYS get a better machine for the money based on specifications by buying IBM PC. Apple makes pretty stuff, not functional stuff. AFAIC, any laptop that can't have it's battery changed in 15" is an immediate failure.

 

[Pliablemoose]

i owned an apple product at one point, a power PC back in 98 it was a POS
my college had the colored I macs and then the ET ones, they also were giant pieces of shit compared to any PC at the time.
the first ipod came with itunes which in 2002/2003 was worse then real player on the POS scale on the PC side, also no one had a fing firewire port - the only person i knew who had a gen 1 ipod had it break on him in less then a month

And there we have it, a self confessed Apple hater revealing his extensive experience with Apple products and the reason for hating all Apple products forevers and forevers...

Sigh...

Anubis, I think you're a great, guy, smart, etc... But seriously, you're comparing near decade + old products to what Apple is selling today... There's a massive difference in price and build quality. Hell, everything was a POS back then.

 

[vi edit]

Apple has nothing that can be objectively measured. You ALWAYS get a better machine for the money based on specifications by buying IBM PC. Apple makes pretty stuff, not functional stuff. AFAIC, any laptop that can't have it's battery changed in 15" is an immediate failure.

Speed, weight, battery life, screen quality, and touchpad response/function aren't objective measurements?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Speed, weight, battery life, screen quality, and touchpad response/function aren't objective measurements?

Resale value, price, cpu speed, gpu speed, another BS argument, "no objective way to compare ..." sigh...

Might as well say you hate Apple because Steve Job's ghost is a douchnozzle, makes as much sense.

 

[Anubis]

And there we have it, a self confessed Apple hater revealing his extensive experience with Apple products and the reason for hating all Apple products forevers and forevers...

Sigh...

Anubis, I think you're a great, guy, smart, etc... But seriously, you're comparing near decade + old products to what Apple is selling today... There's a massive difference in price and build quality. Hell, everything was a POS back then.

im well aware i was just being an ass about it.

yea the build quality is top notch and their design is well liked. however beyond that nothing apple makes does anything for me. tech/usability wise nothing draws me to any of their products.

i don't really hate their products, they just offer me nothing as i said - this is most likely because I'm a giant nerd and tinkerer locked down hardware and such is not tinker friendly

i however do hate the patent troll of a company apple has become, and a large portion of their users who have no idea WTF they are talking about (the apple invented everything people)

 

[lxskllr]

Speed, weight, battery life, screen quality, and touchpad response/function aren't objective measurements?

Speed? The specs are well documented. Computers don't run on magic. You can get better specs for a lower price by buying IBM

Weight? That's an objective measurement, but I don't know how it compares with IBM. That's very low on my priority list. Anything that isn't a 17" behemoth is light enough.

Battery life? Irrelevant if you can't change the battery out. That's a failure. You need the ability to swap batteries on a portable computer.

Screen quality? I don't know that Apple's is any better than an equivalent higher end IBM screen. I'm willing to consider an objective comparison though.

Touchpad? It works on damn near everything. My $200 netbook touchpad works fine. It can't be made any better.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Speed? The specs are well documented. Computers don't run on magic. You can get better specs for a lower price by buying IBM

Weight? That's an objective measurement, but I don't know how it compares with IBM. That's very low on my priority list. Anything that isn't a 17" behemoth is light enough.

Battery life? Irrelevant if you can't change the battery out. That's a failure. You need the ability to swap batteries on a portable computer.

Screen quality? I don't know that Apple's is any better than an equivalent higher end IBM screen. I'm willing to consider an objective comparison though.

Touchpad? It works on damn near everything. My $200 netbook touchpad works fine. It can't be made any better.

/facepalm

 

[lxskllr]

/facepalm

WTF does that mean?

 

[Anubis]

WTF does that mean?

it means you are being stupid

 

[brblx]

LOL.

I'm sure that's why one of the more successful tech writers on the internet (AKA the owner of these forums) does most of his writing on a Macbook.

it may seem petty, but i think it gets right to the heart of the issue- anyone that does serious amounts of writing on a macbook keyboard is either a sadist or retarded.

again, another perfectly good reason for vehement apple hatred. they ruined laptop keyboards. now every manufacturer, with maybe the exception of lenovo (what i ended up buying earlier this year), is exclusively making their laptops with retarded hunt 'n' peck keyboards (enormous spacing between flat keys lacking any tactile sensation). i might as well write a novel on the slide-out qwerty keyboard on my phone.

edit: oh that's right, you wouldn't know what that is, either, because you think a touch screen keyboard is the height of usability.

 

[grrl]

Apple waffles FTW!

 

[Anubis]

it may seem petty, but i think it gets right to the heart of the issue- anyone that does serious amounts of writing on a macbook keyboard is either a sadist or retarded.

again, another perfectly good reason for vehement apple hatred. they ruined laptop keyboards. now every manufacturer, with maybe the exception of lenovo (what i ended up buying earlier this year), is exclusively making their laptops with retarded hunt 'n' peck keyboards (enormous spacing between flat keys lacking any tactile sensation). i might as well write a novel on the slide-out qwerty keyboard on my phone.

you wont like this - i do agree with you

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/13/circuit-city-starts-shipping-lenovo-ideapad-u400-reminds-you-it/

 

[brblx]

noooooooooooooooo lenovoooooo

edit: looking at their site, it appears the more classical thinkpad design is still the bulk of their lineup. i guess they're just trying to break into, ahem...different...market segments.

 

[purbeast0]

Speed? The specs are well documented. Computers don't run on magic. You can get better specs for a lower price by buying IBM

Weight? That's an objective measurement, but I don't know how it compares with IBM. That's very low on my priority list. Anything that isn't a 17" behemoth is light enough.

Battery life? Irrelevant if you can't change the battery out. That's a failure. You need the ability to swap batteries on a portable computer.

Screen quality? I don't know that Apple's is any better than an equivalent higher end IBM screen. I'm willing to consider an objective comparison though.

Touchpad? It works on damn near everything. My $200 netbook touchpad works fine. It can't be made any better.

thx for the laffs!

 

[Capt Caveman]

it means you are being stupid

This. On every single instance.